Affirmative Action Helped Whites

[Bass v 2.0]

Race Matters - Affirmative Action Helped Whites

 

[Bass v 2.0]

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/28/books/review/28KOTZL.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

 

[Tank]

Charlie,
could it just simply be that "black" folks are the least evolved people on the planet?

 

[KittenKoder]

Race Matters - Affirmative Action Helped Whites

I REALLY wish that was true and they could prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, then we could be rid of that failed legislation. *evil grin* Then companies could legally hire the more qualified white folk instead of being forced to hire less qualified black folk, then I may not have to clean up so many messes.

 

[justabubba]

Race Matters - Affirmative Action Helped Whites

I REALLY wish that was true and they could prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, then we could be rid of that failed legislation. *evil grin* Then companies could legally hire the more qualified white folk instead of being forced to hire less qualified black folk, then I may not have to clean up so many messes.

not sure i understand your point
how does the position that whites were the beneficiaries of affirmative action result in the conclusion that affirmative action policies should be abandoned only now that the minority populations are benefiting from them
only one who believes the social and economic playing field is presently level could stake out a position that affirmative action programs no longer have an end -equal opportunity - to accomplish

 

[Agnapostate]

I'm be dubious of the claim that those benefited by affirmative action possess lower qualification or skill anyway.

 

[Amanda]

I'm be dubious of the claim that those benefited by affirmative action possess lower qualification or skill anyway.

Oh face it Agna, you're just dubious period.

 

[sitarro]

charlie,
could it just simply be that "black" folks are the least evolved people on the planet?

wtf?!!! Why would anyone do that to themselves?

 

[Agnapostate]

wtf?!!! Why would anyone do that to themselves?

Some odd tribal ritual. The Inca did the same thing to their ears. One might ask the same about Americans' continued practice of circumcising male children, of course.

 

[WillowTree]

Well, this news really really frosts the mini wheats donut?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Race Matters - Affirmative Action Helped Whites

An editorial by the racist Leonard Pitts? Surely you don't take his rants seriously. Or do you?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/28/books/review/28KOTZL.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

When organizations are forced make decisions based on race and gender instead of merit it's racism and sexism at it's finest. When employment opportunities are given to less qualified, there will be less remaining opportunities awarded to the most qualified.

Affirmative Action actually hurts minorities, a high school student with a below average academic record is likely to be a below average college student. Thus, students admitted through minority recruiting programs often end up in remedial classes with mediocre academic performance. Through simple cause and effect, affirmative action programs prolong the stereotype of minority students finishing near the bottom of their class by encouraging enrollment in universities beyond an appropriate level of difficulty. According to a federal study, just 39% of enrolled black students finish their degrees compared to 54% of white students. 2 Attending a university where the pace of learning is too difficult is just as counterproductive as attempting to lift too much weight at the gym.
The insistence on relaxed admission standards for minority students insinuates that such students are incapable of succeeding without such programs. This insult casts a permanent doubt on the real achievements of high-achieving minorities.


Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. dreamed that one day we would live in a society where individuals would be judged by their character and not the color of their skin. The affirmative action policies of today are both unnecessary and detrimental to minority success.

 

[Agnapostate]

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. dreamed that one day we would live in a society where individuals would be judged by their character and not the color of their skin. The affirmative action policies of today are both unnecessary and detrimental to minority success.

You do realize that MLK supported affirmative action, don't you?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. dreamed that one day we would live in a society where individuals would be judged by their character and not the color of their skin. The affirmative action policies of today are both unnecessary and detrimental to minority success.

You do realize that MLK supported affirmative action, don't you?

Afirmative action meant something different when King was alive. In large it was not then understood to imply racial favoritism as it is today.

The phrase was first used in the context of race in President Kennedy's Executive Order 10925, signed March 6, 1961. Its first two "Whereas" clauses were:

WHEREAS discrimination because of race, creed, color, or national origin is contrary to the Constitutional principles and policies of the United States; and 13 CFR 1960 Supp.
WHEREAS it is the plain and positive obligation of the United States Government to promote and ensure equal opportunity for all qualified persons, without regard to race, creed, color, or national origin, employed or seeking employment with the Federal Government and on government contracts...

And it then specified:

The contractor will not discriminate against any employee or applicant for employment because of race, creed, color, or national origin. The contractor will take affirmative action to ensure that applicants are employed, and that employees are treated during employment, without regard to their race, creed, color, or national origin. (Emphasis added)

Executive Order 11246, signed by President Johnson on September 28, 1965, was almost identical. Under "Contractors' Agreements," it specified:

(1) The contractor will not discriminate against any employee or applicant for employment because of race, creed, color, or national origin. The contractor will take affirmative action to ensure that applicants are employed, and that employees are treated during employment, without regard to their race, creed, color, or national origin. (Emphasis added)

Even if MLK had affirmatively supported "affirmative action," it would not have meant what support for affirmative action means today, which is racial preferences.

 

[William Joyce]

Race Matters - Affirmative Action Helped Whites

An editorial by the racist Leonard Pitts? Surely you don't take his rants seriously. Or do you?

Leonard Pitts amazes me. Anti-white, brash, absurd... we need whites to take the same attitude!

 

[JBeukema]

wtf?!!! Why would anyone do that to themselves?

Some odd tribal ritual. The Inca did the same thing to their ears. One might ask the same about Americans' continued practice of circumcising male children, of course.

Women tend to have larger, puffier lips than men. Historically, many cultures have exaggerated this feature. This is the purpose of lipstick. The picture is of a particularly extreme example that has been adopted by some people. Others stretch their necks or ears. In the West, it is typically the breasts that are made ludicrously large

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/28/books/review/28KOTZL.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

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Affirmative Action actually hurts minorities, a high school student with a below average academic record is likely to be a below average college student. Thus, students admitted through minority recruiting programs often end up in remedial classes with mediocre academic performance. Through simple cause and effect, affirmative action programs prolong the stereotype of minority students finishing near the bottom of their class by encouraging enrollment in universities beyond an appropriate level of difficulty. According to a federal study, just 39% of enrolled black students finish their degrees compared to 54% of white students. 2 Attending a university where the pace of learning is too difficult is just as counterproductive as attempting to lift too much weight at the gym.
The insistence on relaxed admission standards for minority students insinuates that such students are incapable of succeeding without such programs. This insult casts a permanent doubt on the real achievements of high-achieving minorities.

that... makes sense

 

[sitarro]

wtf?!!! Why would anyone do that to themselves?

Some odd tribal ritual. The Inca did the same thing to their ears. One might ask the same about Americans' continued practice of circumcising male children, of course.

Why don't you do a poll of the women and fags on this board and find out what they find more appealing...... helmet head or anteater?

 

[KittenKoder]

Actually, makeup was used to accentuate those traits which people though women should have more of but don't. Normally men have "puffier" lips, actually larger not really puffier, and more defined than women, but someone saw a woman with really thick lips and thought that was attractive so it became fashionable. Another are nails, males can grow stronger nails than women, so women had to work hard to make them long, and thus became another fashion statement.

 

[JBeukema]

Long nails on women actually came about due to division of labor. Physical labor destroys snails, so longer nails were viewed as a feminine trait, as women were not 'supposed to' do 'men's work'. Then, as the social castes grew in importance, SUPER-long nails made it clear that one never did work at all- kinda like hoe pale skin became a sign of beauty and affluence.

 

[KittenKoder]

Long nails on women actually came about due to division of labor. Physical labor destroys snails, so longer nails were viewed as a feminine trait, as women were not 'supposed to' do 'men's work'. Then, as the social castes grew in importance, SUPER-long nails made it clear that one never did work at all- kinda like hoe pale skin became a sign of beauty and affluence.

Not entirely, pale skin was considered a sign of wealth. Also, women did labor a lot, and much of the work they did was just as "tough" as men, so no. It was just an aesthetic trait, nothing more.