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    No, not me... but I wonder if sometimes if I take too much of this stuff. I'll take three or four if my head really hurts. For some reason, Tylenol does not work for me. Aspirin actually works better than Tylenol.

    But I swear the Advil candy coating might be addicting...
     
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    Isn't Advil the same as Naproxing?

    I imgaine they will find it can cause kidney damage, just as ibuprofen can.

    Tylenol will kill your liver. If you od on tylenol you have exactly 72 hours to be treated, otherwise you die. After I left group home management, one of the girls at one of the homes I set up went on a home visit, and her mother gave her a bottle of tylenol for menstrual pain. The girl didn't tell anyone she had it (and her mother didn't tell staff....at least that's what I understand) and she just popped one whenever she thought of it. Nobody knew until she wouldn't get up one morning. She always slept in, so nobody thought of it, but in the afternoon they started to get alarmed, and realized they COULDN'T get her up.

    To the hospital she went...and she never regained consciousness. It was too late to do anything for her. She swelled up like a balloon and died in about 4 days.
     
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    PS, that wouldn't have happened if I'd been monitoring the home.
     
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    They are not exactly the same, but they are similar as they both belong to the proprionic acid family of NSAIDs.

    Naproxen is the generic name for "Aleve"
    Ibuprofen is "Advil".

    The major risk with NSAIDs is stomach bleeds. Any drug can be hard on your kidneys if taken in excess.

    Tyelenol is acetaminophen, which has toxic metabolites that are really hard on your liver (espeicially with alchohol). There is essentially a dosage curve with acetaminophen. Once you exceed it, the only thing you can do to save someone is transplant a liver. People should be very careful with acetaminophen.

    I am assuming that the pathology behind her swelling is that your liver makes most of the proteins that are in your blood and keep the fluid in the veins by osmosis. If your liver is shot, you make no proteins, the fluid leaks out (edema) and I would venture to guess that she ultimately died of shock.

    That's an aside, but a very sad story for sure. People assume that Over the Counter means "safe". That is not true. To the OP, you should never exceed the dosage limits on your bottle. If that doesn't take care of your pain, you should go see a Dr. for other options. There is most likely another issue that needs to be addressed.

    One more aside, my uncle is a pathologist. His first autopsy was on someone who had overdosed on aspirin. The patient had an abcessed tooth and just kept popping Aspirin for the pain until he went into a coma and died.
     
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    Fucking poison like most newer patent medicines.

    Stick with ASA.

    Thousands of years of using it (it used to be made from willow before Bayer isolated acetylsalicylic acid to produce ASA) shows us that it's relatively safe for use.

    Those other "pain relievers"?

    They're not safe, dude.
     
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    Why does your head "really hurt"?
     
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    Ibuprofen can cause kidney damage. For years they said take as much as you like, if your stomach can tolerate it you're good to go...then they started seeing the results of long-term, high dosage ibuprofen usage. Kidney damage.

    My mom has a variety of health issues (which have resulted in multiple surgeries to remove bone spurs from her spine, double hip replacements, etc) and she took huge doses of ibuprofen for years because she (she's a nurse) believed the hype that ibuprofen was essentially harmless and better than codeine (which she took in small amounts). Her kidney function started to go down about 10 years ago, and they took her off ibuprofen and it immediately came up to normal again.
     
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    You think aspirin is "safe"?

    Any drug taken in excess is toxic. That's why we have dosages. ASA is a good OTC drug, but it's not a cure all, nor can you eat it like candy and expect to live.
     
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    how often are you taking three or four advils?
     
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    You can take ibuprofen in high doses. I have taken it off and on for back pain, 800 mg a dose, approx 4-6 hours apart for a couple of days at a time. That's the dosage my dr. gave me, and I've actually had a higher dosage.
     

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