Advice for the Tea Party

[Moon]

Moon's racism is covert but it is there. He does not like that I am involved with a party that I think has turned very badly during the last thirty years. If he believes that what has happened in those decades in the party is generally for the good, then that is on him and nothing to me. He has given me no reasons why I should not try to be part of the solution in the party, and this is on him as well.

And anyone who lives in the South and denies that quite a few GOP former democrats are not racist is either mentally feeble, absolutely ignorant, or morally malignant. There are no other alternatives. The tactics that most outs a covert racist in the GOP is to call those who disagree with them a racist, or to accuse one who points out right wing racism as being racist. To even suggest that the racialist signs are, without any evidence, not racist are, in fact, racist statements themselves. You all need to grow up and move into the 21st century.

And that is why most of the country laughs at such fools. America is becoming darker, younger, disgusted with old style racism, technological, and I want those folks voting GOP. They are voting against the GOP because it has built a shaky house on sand the last thirty years and is now crumbling.

So you fail yet again to show any racism whatsoever in any of my posts. Gee, I'm so shocked. Of course, that hasn't stopped you from deciding that I'm a racist based on nothing at all. That makes you a liar of the worst caliber. It also makes you a hack, and if you truly are part of the GOP leadership (which I am doubting now considering you've proven that you have no qualms about lying) you should resign immediately and become a Democrat, since you have wholeheartedly embraced their disgusting tactics.



Oh, I almost forgot...go fuck yourself.

 

[DiveCon]

Funny if unbalanced chart.

To call a racist out for his racism is not a racist act, but a moral one, and I am sure that our schools are teaching that principle.

But to label someone a racist simply because they disagree with you politically is the height of intellectual dishonesty.

there is your problem
you assumed he had intellectual honesty in the first place

 

[Kat]

Moon's racism is covert but it is there. He does not like that I am involved with a party that I think has turned very badly during the last thirty years. If he believes that what has happened in those decades in the party is generally for the good, then that is on him and nothing to me. He has given me no reasons why I should not try to be part of the solution in the party, and this is on him as well.

And anyone who lives in the South and denies that quite a few GOP former democrats are not racist is either mentally feeble, absolutely ignorant, or morally malignant. There are no other alternatives. The tactics that most outs a covert racist in the GOP is to call those who disagree with them a racist, or to accuse one who points out right wing racism as being racist. To even suggest that the racialist signs are, without any evidence, not racist are, in fact, racist statements themselves. You all need to grow up and move into the 21st century.

And that is why most of the country laughs at such fools. America is becoming darker, younger, disgusted with old style racism, technological, and I want those folks voting GOP. They are voting against the GOP because it has built a shaky house on sand the last thirty years and is now crumbling.

So you fail yet again to show any racism whatsoever in any of my posts. Gee, I'm so shocked. Of course, that hasn't stopped you from deciding that I'm a racist based on nothing at all. That makes you a liar of the worst caliber. It also makes you a hack, and if you truly are part of the GOP leadership (which I am doubting now considering you've proven that you have no qualms about lying) you should resign immediately and become a Democrat, since you have wholeheartedly embraced their disgusting tactics.



Oh, I almost forgot...go fuck yourself.

Don't concern yourself over such idiotic posts. Actually it is funny...

 

[DiveCon]

The fact that you can't point to a single thing I've said as being racist, and yet still try to cast me as being a racist, tells me everything I need to know about you, and the level of your intellectual honesty and integrity.

And Plymco, I try to be nice as much as I can and discuss issues assuming the other party is willing, but all bets are off when someone tries to label me as a racist.

Understandable.

I, on occasion, have been mean to my fellow usmb members http://www.usmessageboard.com/the-flame-zone/86717-my-apology-to-devnell.html

im bumping that shit up

Telling the truth to another, whether he likes it or not, is the way it is.

when you start telling the truth, it will be the first time

 

[Moon]

Funny if unbalanced chart.

To call a racist out for his racism is not a racist act, but a moral one, and I am sure that our schools are teaching that principle.

But to label someone a racist simply because they disagree with you politically is the height of intellectual dishonesty.

there is your problem
you assumed he had intellectual honesty in the first place

Got to start from some sort of baseline. I assume people are reasonably intelligent, trustworthy and sane until the prove otherwise. Jake has proven otherwise.

 

[DiveCon]

But to label someone a racist simply because they disagree with you politically is the height of intellectual dishonesty.

there is your problem
you assumed he had intellectual honesty in the first place

Got to start from some sort of baseline. I assume people are reasonably intelligent, trustworthy and sane until the prove otherwise. Jake has proven otherwise.

yes, that he has

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

The lack of response means you are now vindicated Moon.

 

[konradv]

The worst thing any group can do is to take "advice" from someone who doesn't have a vested interest in the success of said group.

I think you've got that wrong. What was the problem with the advice? It's a version of "kill the messenger" and to not listen is foolish. IMO, the Tea Party has a problem in that its loose construction allows for people, for example racists, to hi-jack portions of the movement and give it a black eye. The author of the article pointed out that the NAACP would not allow that sort of hi-jacking and trained protesters in how to protest properly, so as not to make the movement look bad. On the other hand making it a tighter organization and a more traditionally political party, goes against the very ideals that Tea Partiers hold. That's why I see them as having limited effectiveness and are very likely to split the Reps, much the same as Perot did.

 

[CountofTuscany]

I don't really understand the Tea Party. I'm not saying I dissagree with them. Are they really a party or a loosely fragmented collection of grass roots groups across the country that are being labeled as an entity?

 

[konradv]

I don't really understand the Tea Party. I'm not saying I dissagree with them. Are they really a party or a loosely fragmented collection of grass roots groups across the country that are being labeled as an entity?

That second part

 

[JakeStarkey]

But to label someone a racist simply because they disagree with you politically is the height of intellectual dishonesty.

there is your problem
you assumed he had intellectual honesty in the first place

Got to start from some sort of baseline. I assume people are reasonably intelligent, trustworthy and sane until the prove otherwise. Jake has proven otherwise.

Moon is not reasonably intelligent nor intellectually honest.

If one is acting in a racist manner or talking in such a manner, and I call him out for it, that person is racist, not me. If moon has trouble with this, then that's on him and his supporters, and I don't particularly care.

We had a guy try that in our last election, and we slapped him down very quickly.

Be intellectually and morally honest, moon.

I won't tolerate a racist.

 

[DiveCon]

there is your problem
you assumed he had intellectual honesty in the first place

Got to start from some sort of baseline. I assume people are reasonably intelligent, trustworthy and sane until the prove otherwise. Jake has proven otherwise.

Moon is not reasonably intelligent nor intellectually honest.

If one is acting in a racist manner or talking in such a manner, and I call him out for it, that person is racist, not me. If moon has trouble with this, then that's on him and his supporters, and I don't particularly care.

We had a guy try that in our last election, and we slapped him down very quickly.

Be intellectually and morally honest, moon.

I won't tolerate a racist.

yet you tolerate yourself


loon

 

[Kat]

there is your problem
you assumed he had intellectual honesty in the first place

Got to start from some sort of baseline. I assume people are reasonably intelligent, trustworthy and sane until the prove otherwise. Jake has proven otherwise.

Moon is not reasonably intelligent nor intellectually honest.

If one is acting in a racist manner or talking in such a manner, and I call him out for it, that person is racist, not me. If moon has trouble with this, then that's on him and his supporters, and I don't particularly care.

We had a guy try that in our last election, and we slapped him down very quickly.

Be intellectually and morally honest, moon.

I won't tolerate a racist.

Really? Who is Moon showing racism against?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Got to start from some sort of baseline. I assume people are reasonably intelligent, trustworthy and sane until the prove otherwise. Jake has proven otherwise.

Moon is not reasonably intelligent nor intellectually honest.

If one is acting in a racist manner or talking in such a manner, and I call him out for it, that person is racist, not me. If moon has trouble with this, then that's on him and his supporters, and I don't particularly care.

We had a guy try that in our last election, and we slapped him down very quickly.

Be intellectually and morally honest, moon.

I won't tolerate a racist.

Really? Who is Moon showing racism against?

Kat, if that is the best you can do, the discussion is over. Racism is like manure; you handle it, Kat, you stink and are sticky. Don't like it then walk away. Otherwise, stink along with moon.

 

[DiveCon]

Moon is not reasonably intelligent nor intellectually honest.

If one is acting in a racist manner or talking in such a manner, and I call him out for it, that person is racist, not me. If moon has trouble with this, then that's on him and his supporters, and I don't particularly care.

We had a guy try that in our last election, and we slapped him down very quickly.

Be intellectually and morally honest, moon.

I won't tolerate a racist.

Really? Who is Moon showing racism against?

Kat, if that is the best you can do, the discussion is over. Racism is like manure; you handle it, Kat, you stink and are sticky. Don't like it then walk away. Otherwise, stink along with moon.

you were asked to point out where he was racist
stop deflecting

 

[Kat]

Moon is not reasonably intelligent nor intellectually honest.

If one is acting in a racist manner or talking in such a manner, and I call him out for it, that person is racist, not me. If moon has trouble with this, then that's on him and his supporters, and I don't particularly care.

We had a guy try that in our last election, and we slapped him down very quickly.

Be intellectually and morally honest, moon.

I won't tolerate a racist.

Really? Who is Moon showing racism against?

Kat, if that is the best you can do, the discussion is over. Racism is like manure; you handle it, Kat, you stink and are sticky. Don't like it then walk away. Otherwise, stink along with moon.

Don't have an answer, huh? Resort to name calling is the best you can do to try and deflect? I challenge you to PROVE Moon is a racist. Back your words up.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Being called a racist when you defend is not being name called: it is being identified and called out.

 

[DiveCon]

Being called a racist when you defend is not being name called: it is being identified and called out.

then PROVE IT
fucktard

 

[Kat]

Being called a racist when you defend is not being name called: it is being identified and called out.

Deflect. Okay..we can drop that part.

Now, on to what is important. Prove Moon is a racist. And a hint: if you knew about him what I know...your face should be beet red about now.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Being called a racist when you defend is not being name called: it is being identified and called out.

Deflect. Okay..we can drop that part.

Now, on to what is important. Prove Moon is a racist. And a hint: if you knew about him what I know...your face should be beet red about now.

You are the one deflecting, Kat. Dismissed until you will come to the point.