Adumb Schifferbrains is ensuring a Trump victory in 2020.

[Nostra]

As usual, you're only showing part of the data. Obama's highest wage growth was in November, 2016. That was business and industry's anticipation of Trump being elected. The majority of Obama's presidency showed very weak wage growth. Just look how far it dropped withing the first two years of the Obama presidency...

Any way you look at it, Obama's economy was a failure.

Wage growth was >3% throughout all of 2016, there was no spike in November 2016 as a result of the election, nor would anyone with any business experience expect employers to suddenly give people raises solely as a result of the election.

The larger overall trend is that wages fell during the recession (obviously) and slowly started increasing over the course of the recovery from the recession as the labor market tightened and unemployment fell. If you look at wage growth from 2016 and 2017-2018, it's hardly different and any actual increase is a part of the ongoing tightening of the labor market which is a process that had been going on for years.

....and in spite of all that, you still can't prove how Trump's economy is going horribly wrong.

It’s not going horribly wrong. It’s fine. It’s not booming. It’s just kinda creeping along at the same rate that 3 years ago Trump was telling people was a total disaster and the worst thing in the world.

How so? 3 years ago we weren't a net exporter of oil and gas, were we? Is that another reason Trump is "riding on Obama's coattails"?

How about the record-low unemployment for blacks, Hispanics, and women? Obama didn't build that. Someone else made that happen.

We didn’t become a net oil/gas exporter overnight. Net imports have been falling for a decade. It just now crossed the zero line. Unemployment has been falling for all ethnic groups.

You’re just pointing at the results of trends which have been going on ever since the recession hit. Why should I give Trump any extra credit over Obama just because the trend continued?

Barry Hussein had nothing to do with increased oil/gas production in the USA. Quite the opposite, he closed off tons of water and land to exploration. All increases came on private land.

Trump has opened up a lot of public land/water to exploration.

Obama sucked.

 

[colfax_m]

Wage growth was >3% throughout all of 2016, there was no spike in November 2016 as a result of the election, nor would anyone with any business experience expect employers to suddenly give people raises solely as a result of the election.

The larger overall trend is that wages fell during the recession (obviously) and slowly started increasing over the course of the recovery from the recession as the labor market tightened and unemployment fell. If you look at wage growth from 2016 and 2017-2018, it's hardly different and any actual increase is a part of the ongoing tightening of the labor market which is a process that had been going on for years.

....and in spite of all that, you still can't prove how Trump's economy is going horribly wrong.

It’s not going horribly wrong. It’s fine. It’s not booming. It’s just kinda creeping along at the same rate that 3 years ago Trump was telling people was a total disaster and the worst thing in the world.

How so? 3 years ago we weren't a net exporter of oil and gas, were we? Is that another reason Trump is "riding on Obama's coattails"?

How about the record-low unemployment for blacks, Hispanics, and women? Obama didn't build that. Someone else made that happen.

We didn’t become a net oil/gas exporter overnight. Net imports have been falling for a decade. It just now crossed the zero line. Unemployment has been falling for all ethnic groups.

You’re just pointing at the results of trends which have been going on ever since the recession hit. Why should I give Trump any extra credit over Obama just because the trend continued?

Barry Hussein had nothing to do with increased oil/gas production in the USA. Quite the opposite, he closed off tons of water and land to exploration. All increases came on private land.

Trump has opened up a lot of public land/water to exploration.

Obama sucked.

So what? Oil and gas production increased rapidly any way.

 

[Nostra]

....and in spite of all that, you still can't prove how Trump's economy is going horribly wrong.

It’s not going horribly wrong. It’s fine. It’s not booming. It’s just kinda creeping along at the same rate that 3 years ago Trump was telling people was a total disaster and the worst thing in the world.

How so? 3 years ago we weren't a net exporter of oil and gas, were we? Is that another reason Trump is "riding on Obama's coattails"?

How about the record-low unemployment for blacks, Hispanics, and women? Obama didn't build that. Someone else made that happen.

We didn’t become a net oil/gas exporter overnight. Net imports have been falling for a decade. It just now crossed the zero line. Unemployment has been falling for all ethnic groups.

You’re just pointing at the results of trends which have been going on ever since the recession hit. Why should I give Trump any extra credit over Obama just because the trend continued?

Barry Hussein had nothing to do with increased oil/gas production in the USA. Quite the opposite, he closed off tons of water and land to exploration. All increases came on private land.

Trump has opened up a lot of public land/water to exploration.

Obama sucked.

So what? Oil and gas production increased rapidly any way.

Due to fracking, for the most part. Something Barry Hussein opposed.


Trump gets credit over Obama because Obama actively opposed oil/gas exploration, Trump is supporting it.

 

[colfax_m]

It’s not going horribly wrong. It’s fine. It’s not booming. It’s just kinda creeping along at the same rate that 3 years ago Trump was telling people was a total disaster and the worst thing in the world.

How so? 3 years ago we weren't a net exporter of oil and gas, were we? Is that another reason Trump is "riding on Obama's coattails"?

How about the record-low unemployment for blacks, Hispanics, and women? Obama didn't build that. Someone else made that happen.

We didn’t become a net oil/gas exporter overnight. Net imports have been falling for a decade. It just now crossed the zero line. Unemployment has been falling for all ethnic groups.

You’re just pointing at the results of trends which have been going on ever since the recession hit. Why should I give Trump any extra credit over Obama just because the trend continued?

Barry Hussein had nothing to do with increased oil/gas production in the USA. Quite the opposite, he closed off tons of water and land to exploration. All increases came on private land.

Trump has opened up a lot of public land/water to exploration.

Obama sucked.

So what? Oil and gas production increased rapidly any way.

Due to fracking, for the most part. Something Barry Hussein opposed.


Trump gets credit over Obama because Obama actively opposed oil/gas exploration, Trump is supporting it.

Who cares who did what when the outcome is the same? Obama opposed it, production goes up. Trump supports it, production goes up.

It’s almost as if, call me crazy, the entire economy doesn’t really revolve around who is in the White House and stuff happens on its own.

 

[Nostra]

How so? 3 years ago we weren't a net exporter of oil and gas, were we? Is that another reason Trump is "riding on Obama's coattails"?

How about the record-low unemployment for blacks, Hispanics, and women? Obama didn't build that. Someone else made that happen.

We didn’t become a net oil/gas exporter overnight. Net imports have been falling for a decade. It just now crossed the zero line. Unemployment has been falling for all ethnic groups.

You’re just pointing at the results of trends which have been going on ever since the recession hit. Why should I give Trump any extra credit over Obama just because the trend continued?

Barry Hussein had nothing to do with increased oil/gas production in the USA. Quite the opposite, he closed off tons of water and land to exploration. All increases came on private land.

Trump has opened up a lot of public land/water to exploration.

Obama sucked.

So what? Oil and gas production increased rapidly any way.

Due to fracking, for the most part. Something Barry Hussein opposed.


Trump gets credit over Obama because Obama actively opposed oil/gas exploration, Trump is supporting it.

Who cares who did what when the outcome is the same? Obama opposed it, production goes up. Trump supports it, production goes up.

It’s almost as if, call me crazy, the entire economy doesn’t really revolve around who is in the White House and stuff happens on its own.

The outcome isn't the same. You claimed Trump doesn't deserve any more credit than Barry Hussein when Barry worked against oil and gas, while Trump has implemented several policies promoting oil and gas production.

 

[JGalt]

So assuming the OP is wrong and one of the Democrat candidates takes office in 2020, just what are they going to do to top President Trump's accomplishments?

Economy?

Energy policy?

Immigration and border security?

Defeating terrorism and ending wars?

Trade imbalance with China?

I'm all ears here. I haven't heard a single plan from the Democrats, except taxing the rich, more gimmies, more free shit, no more autos and trucks, and no more cows.

Seriously: What do you Democrats have to offer this country?

 

[kwc57]

....and in spite of all that, you still can't prove how Trump's economy is going horribly wrong.

It’s not going horribly wrong. It’s fine. It’s not booming. It’s just kinda creeping along at the same rate that 3 years ago Trump was telling people was a total disaster and the worst thing in the world.

How so? 3 years ago we weren't a net exporter of oil and gas, were we? Is that another reason Trump is "riding on Obama's coattails"?

How about the record-low unemployment for blacks, Hispanics, and women? Obama didn't build that. Someone else made that happen.

We didn’t become a net oil/gas exporter overnight. Net imports have been falling for a decade. It just now crossed the zero line. Unemployment has been falling for all ethnic groups.

You’re just pointing at the results of trends which have been going on ever since the recession hit. Why should I give Trump any extra credit over Obama just because the trend continued?

Barry Hussein had nothing to do with increased oil/gas production in the USA. Quite the opposite, he closed off tons of water and land to exploration. All increases came on private land.

Trump has opened up a lot of public land/water to exploration.

Obama sucked.

So what? Oil and gas production increased rapidly any way.

Thank you President Trump!

 

[SassyIrishLass]

So assuming the OP is wrong and one of the Democrat candidates takes office in 2020, just what are they going to do to top President Trump's accomplishments?

Economy?

Energy policy?

Immigration and border security?

Defeating terrorism and ending wars?

Trade imbalance with China?

I'm all ears here. I haven't heard a single plan from the Democrats, except taxing the rich, more gimmies, more free shit, no more autos and trucks, and no more cows.

Seriously: What do you Democrats have to offer this country?

Non stop eye rolls. Just read the shit they post here

 

[JGalt]

So assuming the OP is wrong and one of the Democrat candidates takes office in 2020, just what are they going to do to top President Trump's accomplishments?

Economy?

Energy policy?

Immigration and border security?

Defeating terrorism and ending wars?

Trade imbalance with China?

I'm all ears here. I haven't heard a single plan from the Democrats, except taxing the rich, more gimmies, more free shit, no more autos and trucks, and no more cows.

Seriously: What do you Democrats have to offer this country?

Non stop eye rolls. Just read the shit they post here

I can't read their shit. The sound of crickets is so deafening, it hurts my head.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

So assuming the OP is wrong and one of the Democrat candidates takes office in 2020, just what are they going to do to top President Trump's accomplishments?

Economy?

Energy policy?

Immigration and border security?

Defeating terrorism and ending wars?

Trade imbalance with China?

I'm all ears here. I haven't heard a single plan from the Democrats, except taxing the rich, more gimmies, more free shit, no more autos and trucks, and no more cows.

Seriously: What do you Democrats have to offer this country?

Non stop eye rolls. Just read the shit they post here

I can't read their shit. The sound of crickets is so deafening, it hurts my head.

It's really becoming unbearable.

 

[dudmuck]

It’s not going horribly wrong. It’s fine. It’s not booming. It’s just kinda creeping along at the same rate that 3 years ago Trump was telling people was a total disaster and the worst thing in the world.

How so? 3 years ago we weren't a net exporter of oil and gas, were we? Is that another reason Trump is "riding on Obama's coattails"?

How about the record-low unemployment for blacks, Hispanics, and women? Obama didn't build that. Someone else made that happen.

We didn’t become a net oil/gas exporter overnight. Net imports have been falling for a decade. It just now crossed the zero line. Unemployment has been falling for all ethnic groups.

You’re just pointing at the results of trends which have been going on ever since the recession hit. Why should I give Trump any extra credit over Obama just because the trend continued?

Barry Hussein had nothing to do with increased oil/gas production in the USA. Quite the opposite, he closed off tons of water and land to exploration. All increases came on private land.

Trump has opened up a lot of public land/water to exploration.

Obama sucked.

So what? Oil and gas production increased rapidly any way.

Thank you President Trump!

 

[Faun]

How so? 3 years ago we weren't a net exporter of oil and gas, were we? Is that another reason Trump is "riding on Obama's coattails"?

How about the record-low unemployment for blacks, Hispanics, and women? Obama didn't build that. Someone else made that happen.

We didn’t become a net oil/gas exporter overnight. Net imports have been falling for a decade. It just now crossed the zero line. Unemployment has been falling for all ethnic groups.

You’re just pointing at the results of trends which have been going on ever since the recession hit. Why should I give Trump any extra credit over Obama just because the trend continued?

Barry Hussein had nothing to do with increased oil/gas production in the USA. Quite the opposite, he closed off tons of water and land to exploration. All increases came on private land.

Trump has opened up a lot of public land/water to exploration.

Obama sucked.

So what? Oil and gas production increased rapidly any way.

Thank you President Trump!

^^^ More evidence Trump is not mentally fit to be in office.

 

[Nostra]

We didn’t become a net oil/gas exporter overnight. Net imports have been falling for a decade. It just now crossed the zero line. Unemployment has been falling for all ethnic groups.

You’re just pointing at the results of trends which have been going on ever since the recession hit. Why should I give Trump any extra credit over Obama just because the trend continued?

Barry Hussein had nothing to do with increased oil/gas production in the USA. Quite the opposite, he closed off tons of water and land to exploration. All increases came on private land.

Trump has opened up a lot of public land/water to exploration.

Obama sucked.

So what? Oil and gas production increased rapidly any way.

Thank you President Trump!

^^^ More evidence Trump is not mentally fit to be in office.

^^^^More evidence Trump lives rent free in your vacuous noggin.^^^^

 

[Faun]

Barry Hussein had nothing to do with increased oil/gas production in the USA. Quite the opposite, he closed off tons of water and land to exploration. All increases came on private land.

Trump has opened up a lot of public land/water to exploration.

Obama sucked.

So what? Oil and gas production increased rapidly any way.

Thank you President Trump!

^^^ More evidence Trump is not mentally fit to be in office.

^^^^More evidence Trump lives rent free in your vacuous noggin.^^^^

^^^ more evidence your IQ is a single digit.

 

[Nostra]

So what? Oil and gas production increased rapidly any way.

Thank you President Trump!

^^^ More evidence Trump is not mentally fit to be in office.

^^^^More evidence Trump lives rent free in your vacuous noggin.^^^^

^^^ more evidence your IQ is a single digit.

Thanks for confirming my post.

 

[Faun]

Thank you President Trump!

^^^ More evidence Trump is not mentally fit to be in office.

^^^^More evidence Trump lives rent free in your vacuous noggin.^^^^

^^^ more evidence your IQ is a single digit.

Thanks for confirming my post.

 

[Nostra]

^^^ More evidence Trump is not mentally fit to be in office.

^^^^More evidence Trump lives rent free in your vacuous noggin.^^^^

^^^ more evidence your IQ is a single digit.

Thanks for confirming my post.

Yep, that's the area Trump lives in rent free.

 

[Faun]

^^^ More evidence Trump is not mentally fit to be in office.

^^^^More evidence Trump lives rent free in your vacuous noggin.^^^^

^^^ more evidence your IQ is a single digit.

Thanks for confirming my post.

Yep, that's the area Trump lives in rent free.

 

[blastoff]

And also greatly improving the chances America throws the Dimwingers out of control in the House.

This pencil necked bug-eyed moron is taking the entire party down with his impeachment debacle.




Liz Peek: Schiff steers Trump impeachment drive straight toward a ditch – Here's what's next

Adam Schiff has made a complete hash of the Democrats’ impeachment inquiry. The decision by the California Democrat and House Intelligence Committee chairman to conduct the first series of interviews behind closed doors allowed Republicans to appropriately brand the enterprise as unfair and clandestine.

His next step, orchestrating a steady stream of leaks and disclosures timed and edited for maximum impact, all but guaranteed that last week’s subsequent live hearings would be anti-climactic.

Schiff stole his own thunder.


In addition, he has not been straightforward about his dealings with the whistleblower, who initially was pivotal to charges against the president but who is now deemed inconsequential by Schiff.

It is common knowledge that the initial complaint was launched by a Democrat with ties to President Trump’s adversaries. That revelation has sucked even more legitimacy from the investigation.

As a result of these several missteps, the public is wary of what has emerged as an obviously partisan attack on a duly elected president. Worse, they are also, already, bored and, we’re not even in the home stretch.

If Americans turn against the impeachment effort, they will punish Democrats for not attending to other, more important, priorities. Let’s face it, impeaching the president will not make our roads better or lower drug costs.

Adding to the public’s ennui is that the resolution of the impeachment is a foregone conclusion. It’s like Agatha Christie revealing whodunit in Chapter One; it steals the story’s punch.

We know Democrats will press forward with their tiresome questioning and posturing, hoping to convince the nation that the hearings are something bigger and nobler than a political stunt. They will vote to impeach; that has always been a foregone conclusion.

The carnival will then move to the Senate, which will ultimately hold a trial and find the president not guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors. Democrats know this; they know there is no real purpose to their impeachment thrust but to undermine Mr. Trump before the 2020 campaign.

It's a risky way to win an election. If Americans turn against the impeachment effort, they will punish Democrats for not attending to other, more important, priorities. Let’s face it, impeaching the president will not make our roads better or lower drug costs.

Also, a partisan investigation will energize Trump supporters and drive turnout among Republicans.

Even the Trump-hating New York Times struggled to find much meaning in the impeachment proceedings. In their coverage of the first day of hearings, reporter Peter Baker was reduced to glorifying star witness and diplomat William Taylor’s appearance: “the image, at least, of a wise, fatherly figure” with a “chiseled face and reassuring gray hair” whose “deep baritone voice [was] reminiscent of Walter Cronkite.” Channeling Gregory Peck apparently enhances Taylor’s credibility.

The liberal media did hyperventilate over Taylor’s “new” revelation that someone on his staff “asked Ambassador Sondland what President Trump thought about Ukraine.” Sondland, according to the aide, according to Taylor, said the president “cares more about the investigations of Bidens.” In other words, third-hand hearsay.

Disappointing to Democrats, Taylor refused to climb aboard the impeachment train. Moreover, that Taylor had never once met with or talked to President Trump undermined the impact of his testimony, notwithstanding his admirable elocution.

To be sure, it is clear that Taylor disapproved of President Trump’s reportedly tying $391 million in aid to Kiev to an investigation into possible misdeeds by Joe Biden and his son Hunter. He said that holding up that assistance for political purposes is wrong. It is unclear what Taylor thought of President Obama’s steadfast refusal to authorize that much-needed help during his administration.

Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, who was sent back to the United States because the White House heard she was openly critical of the president, was not even in the Ukraine when the events under review took place. The president is entitled to have representatives in foreign countries who are on his team. End of story.

Taylor, Yovanovitch and other witnesses, including the still missing-in-action whistleblower, have no first-hand evidence that Trump threatened to withhold aid in exchange for an investigation into the Bidens. That is still a critical missing link.

As the inquiry drags on, more Americans will tune out. The TV audience on the first day of the Schiff show was far less than the number who watched the confirmation hearings for now-Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh or even Michael Cohen’s testimony.

Schiff himself was tweeting his followers to watch in an embarrassing effort to gin up enthusiasm. The audience will shrink further.

Democratic candidates slugging it out in Iowa and New Hampshire are rarely asked about impeachment. Instead, voters ask about health care and other issues; campaigners are struggling to explain how they are rewarding voters for giving their party the majority in the House.

Some of those candidates will soon view the impeachment drive as an even bigger threat. Senators Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Amy Klobuchar, Kamala Harris, Michael Bennet and Cory Booker – all 2020 candidates – will have to participate in the eventual Senate trial. That means they will have to sit in the Senate day after day, while rivals like Joe Biden and Mayor Pete Buttigieg run circles around them on the campaign trail.


It is almost inconceivable that Democrats have allowed Adam Schiff to play ringmaster for this circus. As a major author of the Russia collusion narrative, Schiff was already reviled on the right.

As he leads his own party down the impeachment rabbit hole, Schiff may come under fire from Democrats as well, and especially from those senators trying to win the primaries.


And let’s not forget the damage Schiff has done to front-runner Joe Biden. After all, the one critical part of the Ukraine story that is regurgitated with each telling is that Biden’s son Hunter monetized his father’s unique status not only in Kiev but also in China. That has soiled the former vice president’s candidacy.

The hearings are not over but it is hard to see today how impeachment will prove a winner for Democrats. Nancy Pelosi should have stuck to her guns, and never let this process move forward, and especially with Adam Schiff at the helm.

Liz Peek: Schiff steers Trump impeachment drive straight toward a ditch – Here's what's next

Got into a discussion about this with a lib who hangs out at a local watering hole just yesterday. Trump is toast if the House impeaches him and blah, blah, blah. So I offered him a bet. $25 Trump is reelected with more popular and electoral votes and larger percentages of the black and Hispanic votes than in ‘16. Meaning when Trump wins but fails to achieve any of the four, he wins the bet. He turned it down.