Adm McRaven: Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President

[Markle]

Biden's sons volunteered to serve in the military. How many of President Bone Spurs' kids have served? How many would even consider it?

And, I myself served over 20 years in the US Navy.

Did you serve stoned?

Joe Biden's Son Hunter Biden Discharged From Navy After Positive Cocaine Test
By LUIS MARTINEZ AND ARLETTE SAENZ
Oct 16, 2014, 8:00 PM ET
[...]
The person said Biden had failed a urinalysis test administered in June 2013 before he was discharged from the Navy.
Joe Biden's Son Hunter Discharged From Navy After Positive Cocaine Test
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This isn't decades ago. This is just yesterday.

Perhaps he was stoned when he enlisted.

Cocaine pipe and ‘white powdery substance’ found in Hunter Biden’s rental car in 2016
by Emily Larsen
| May 17, 2019 06:45 PM
| Updated May 18, 2019, 01:03 AM
Cocaine pipe and ‘white powdery substance’ found in Hunter Biden’s rental car in 2016

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Yep, sounds like a perfect resume for a position on the board of a Ukrainian Oil and Gas company paying $83,000.00+ per month.

 

[Markle]

Obama is no longer President, if you want to go back and play this game, let's compare the number of members in the Obama Administration with the number of members in the Reagan Administration and Trump's who have been indicted and put in prison.

What crimes were committed by those around President Donald Trump while they were working for President or candidate Trump?

You left out former President Bill Clinton...go figure!

William Jefferson Clinton, Former President of the United States and Democrat

Sexual Assault
Rape

Women have been charging Bill Clinton with sexual assault since his days as a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford 30 years ago.

Gennifer Flowers (Unknown settlement)

Paula Jones ($850,000 settlement)

Kathleen Willey (Unknown settlement)

Juanita Broaddrick (Unknown settlement)

Monica Lewinsky….(“I did not have sex with THAT woman”)

Perjury
Impeachment

Loss of Law License
$50,000 fine

Whitewater

Arkansas Gov. Jim Guy Tucker - fraud felony convictions - 3 counts (Tucker resigned facing impeachment)

Jim McDougal - fraud and conspiracy felony convictions - 18 counts

Susan McDougal - felony - 4 counts (pardoned during Clinton's last minute

pardongate payoffs)

William J. Marks Sr - conspiracy

Stephen Smith - conspiracy

Larry Kuca - Fraud

Neal Ainley - 2 misdemeanors for embezzlement

David Hale - guilty plea - conspiracy

Chris Wade - felony

Whitewater real-estate investor John Haley - recent!

1998 on fraud Robert Palmer - felony for conspiracy Charles Matthews - guilty plea for bribery Eugene Fitzhugh -

Whitewater - bribery Webster Hubbell - #2 ranking Justice Dept. Official - felony for embezzlement and fraud

John Latham - CEO of Madison Bank - bank fraud Campaign

Finance: Johnny Chung - Clinton cronie - felony guilty plea - funneling money from China

Gene Lum - convicted - felony for money laundering for the DNC

Nora Lum - convicted - felony for money laundering for the DNC

Howard Glicken - guilty plea - 2 misdemeanors - funneling foreign donations

Yah Lin "Charlie" Trie - guilty plea - illegal Clinton campaign donations

John Huang - Clinton cronie - felony guilty plea - funneling money from China

Paula Jonesgate: William Jefferson Clinton - found guilty - civil contempt of court - lying under oath about material facts. The Office of the Independent

Council further presented Clinton with an agreement that had him disbarred from practicing law for 5 years and made him sign a statement admitting to his deception.

Post Administration

Sandy Bergergate Sandy Berger – Clinton National Security Adviser -- found guilty of stealing highly classified documents from the National Archive and destroying them.

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More?

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Wasn't Richard Nixon a Republican.

Yes and he was the one who finally ended LBJ's war. And when it was feared Jack Kennedy was going soft on the commies JFK was shot in the head and LBJ took over and ramped up the war with great gusto.

I'm not interested in all the partisan history lessons. I was actually overseas in medical support for the Navy at the time (actually just a few years before the war ended).

My point remains...this issue is about 95% hate for Trump and 5% concern for the Kurds, if that. And don't think it doesn't show.

And when the last helicopter left Saigon with South Vietnamese allies literally hanging onto to runners as it took off the left wasn't so compassionate (serves 'em right...we shouldn't have been there...it's their fault...who cares, etc.) about our allies then.

And in some ways the Kurds have been left high and dry by our departure but on the other hand we never signed an open ended pact with them staying in Syria forever to keep the Turks off their backs. I know there are refugee programs going on right now in the region so hopefully that will help a lot.

 

[2aguy]

Wasn't Richard Nixon a Republican.

Yes and he was the one who finally ended LBJ's war. And when it was feared Jack Kennedy was going soft on the commies JFK was shot in the head and LBJ took over and ramped up the war with great gusto.

I'm not interested in all the partisan history lessons. I was actually overseas in medical support for the Navy at the time (actually just a few years before the war ended).

My point remains...this issue is about 95% hate for Trump and 5% concern for the Kurds, if that. And don't think it doesn't show.

And when the last helicopter left Saigon with South Vietnamese allies literally hanging onto to runners as it took off the left wasn't so compassionate (serves 'em right...we shouldn't have been there...it's their fault...who cares, etc.) about our allies then.

And in some ways the Kurds have been left high and dry by our departure but on the other hand we never signed an open ended pact with them staying in Syria forever to keep the Turks off their backs. I know there are refugee programs going on right now in the region so hopefully that will help a lot.

You might like this.....it starts the discussion on the Kurds and Turkey at the 9 minute mark.......

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

I do like Andrew Klavan and I'm encouraged that a Bush ally says that Trump has done the right thing (pretty amazing in and of itself) and, as usual, our media has been lying to us about the Kurds in Syria.

Btw...the idea that by virtue of becoming a Navy Seal one's judgement and political acumen
becomes far sharper than we non Seals is bullshit!

 

[Markle]

Just out of curiosity for all you people bitching about McRaven................how many of YOU would have been able to complete BUDs training and become a SEAL?

That's relevant to what, exactly? There was a time when I could and did but that didn't make my opinion of anything more or less credible.

More importantly, why are you denigrating women and those with handicaps?

 

[Pete7469]

Adm McRaven: Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President
Opinion | Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President

If President Trump doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office.

By William H. McRaven
Admiral McRaven is a former commander of the United States Special Operations Command.

Oct. 17, 2019

<snip>

But, if we don’t care about our values, if we don’t care about duty and honor, if we don’t help the weak and stand up against oppression and injustice — what will happen to the Kurds, the Iraqis, the Afghans, the Syrians, the Rohingyas, the South Sudanese and the millions of people under the boot of tyranny or left abandoned by their failing states?

If our promises are meaningless, how will our allies ever trust us? If we can’t have faith in our nation’s principles, why would the men and women of this nation join the military? And if they don’t join, who will protect us? If we are not the champions of the good and the right, then who will follow us? And if no one follows us — where will the world end up?

President Trump seems to believe that these qualities are unimportant or show weakness. He is wrong. These are the virtues that have sustained this nation for the past 243 years. If we hope to continue to lead the world and inspire a new generation of young men and women to our cause, then we must embrace these values now more than ever.

And if this president doesn’t understand their importance, if this president doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, both domestically and abroad, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office — Republican, Democrat or independent — the sooner, the better. The fate of our Republic depends upon it.

William H. McRaven, a retired Navy admiral, is a former commander of the United States Special Operations Command and former chancellor of The University of Texas system.

Trump is a traitor and a criminal that needs to be removed and imprisoned for his treason against the United states! About time our military start standing up against him.

You are insane, no doubt about that.

 

[daveman]

More soldiers who fought beside the Kurds speak out!
U.S. soldiers who fought alongside Kurds blast Trump's Syria retreat

Ya... sure... soldiers just want FIGHT FOR NOTHING, get their legs and shit blown off for NOTHING... to keep fighting a NEVER ENDING BATTLE for NO REASON AT ALL, and NO END IN SIGHT, NO MISSION, NO END STRATEGY, just FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, and DIE, DIE, DIE in RAG HEAD WARS they've been fighting for THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

Yeah, that's the ticket, you DEMOCRATS just LOVE WAR, so WHY don't we see ALL of you LEFTIST WAR LOVING FREAKS lined up at the RECRUITERS OFFICE?

GO JOIN UP, GO FIGHT, for... WHATEVER... go get your LEGS BLOWN OFF, and please, PLEASE, tell us WHAT FOR!

Democrats send our sons to war.

They send their sons to Ukraine to get high-paying jobs.

Biden's sons volunteered to serve in the military. How many of President Bone Spurs' kids have served? How many would even consider it?

And, I myself served over 20 years in the US Navy.

Thank you for your service.

Hunter Biden served less than a month in the Naval Reserves, after receiving a direct commission, then popping hot for coke on a piss test. He didn't even go through ROTC or boot. Hardly a hero. And, oh, yeah, he went to Ukraine and got a job he wasn't qualified for.

His brother Beau seemed like a genuinely good man.

And I myself served 20 years in the US Air Force.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

More soldiers who fought beside the Kurds speak out!
U.S. soldiers who fought alongside Kurds blast Trump's Syria retreat

Ya... sure... soldiers just want FIGHT FOR NOTHING, get their legs and shit blown off for NOTHING... to keep fighting a NEVER ENDING BATTLE for NO REASON AT ALL, and NO END IN SIGHT, NO MISSION, NO END STRATEGY, just FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, and DIE, DIE, DIE in RAG HEAD WARS they've been fighting for THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

Yeah, that's the ticket, you DEMOCRATS just LOVE WAR, so WHY don't we see ALL of you LEFTIST WAR LOVING FREAKS lined up at the RECRUITERS OFFICE?

GO JOIN UP, GO FIGHT, for... WHATEVER... go get your LEGS BLOWN OFF, and please, PLEASE, tell us WHAT FOR!

Democrats send our sons to war.

They send their sons to Ukraine to get high-paying jobs.

Biden's sons volunteered to serve in the military. How many of President Bone Spurs' kids have served? How many would even consider it?

And, I myself served over 20 years in the US Navy.

Biden's sons joined the reserves and national guard. Those are not exactly high profile, front line positions. Both were lawyers!

Your service apparently consisted of you being on your knees.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Just out of curiosity for all you people bitching about McRaven................how many of YOU would have been able to complete BUDs training and become a SEAL?

What does that matter?....we are not questioning how tough he is but where is loyalty is......and his wisdom....you can be physically tough and be really, really stupid....

Not in the SEALs you can't. Yes, the main reason people wash out is because they come to a point where they THINK they can't physically go on, but many find the resolve to keep at it. But, people can also wash out for failing tests or not performing well enough on their studies.

And, if you knew much about the culture of SEALs, you would also know that they constantly reinforce each other's patriotism and faith in this country. McRaven is speaking out, because as a military officer, he feels it's his duty to call out his superiors when they are screwing up.

He is also violating the UCMJ. Of course, you would never know it, since you probably have never read it.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Adm McRaven: Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President
Opinion | Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President

If President Trump doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office.

By William H. McRaven
Admiral McRaven is a former commander of the United States Special Operations Command.

Oct. 17, 2019

<snip>

But, if we don’t care about our values, if we don’t care about duty and honor, if we don’t help the weak and stand up against oppression and injustice — what will happen to the Kurds, the Iraqis, the Afghans, the Syrians, the Rohingyas, the South Sudanese and the millions of people under the boot of tyranny or left abandoned by their failing states?

If our promises are meaningless, how will our allies ever trust us? If we can’t have faith in our nation’s principles, why would the men and women of this nation join the military? And if they don’t join, who will protect us? If we are not the champions of the good and the right, then who will follow us? And if no one follows us — where will the world end up?

President Trump seems to believe that these qualities are unimportant or show weakness. He is wrong. These are the virtues that have sustained this nation for the past 243 years. If we hope to continue to lead the world and inspire a new generation of young men and women to our cause, then we must embrace these values now more than ever.

And if this president doesn’t understand their importance, if this president doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, both domestically and abroad, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office — Republican, Democrat or independent — the sooner, the better. The fate of our Republic depends upon it.

William H. McRaven, a retired Navy admiral, is a former commander of the United States Special Operations Command and former chancellor of The University of Texas system.

Trump is a traitor and a criminal that needs to be removed and imprisoned for his treason against the United states! About time our military start standing up against him.

Your post is treason and deserves to get you prison time. He was duly elected; not you. What makes you think you are fit to second guess him?

 

[kiwiman127]

Can any of you Little Trumpsters produce a list of generals who support Trump's betrayal of the Kurds?
And you losers raging on McRaven, he is not the only general to slam Trump.
Another former CENTCOM general weighs in with displeasure over Trump’s Syria gambit
Retired Marine Gen. John Allen: 'There is blood on Trump's hands for abandoning our Kurdish allies' - CNNPolitics
‘Some of the Most Noble People I’d Ever Met’
Opinion: As a US military veteran, Trump's betrayal of the Kurds horrifies me
Former UK military chiefs condemn Trump’s ‘awful’ Syria decision – and its ramifications
Mattis: Trump's troop pullout will lead to 'disarray' in Syria and Isis resurgence
'Unfortunate': McMaster criticizes Trump's Syria troop withdrawal
I could go on and on.
Let's see what support military Trump has for his withdrawal and betrayal of the Kurds.
All I see are Little Trumpsters and his puppets. I mean, who would support a drafter dodger with zero experience in warfare and foreign affairs. Trump has been rolled by North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Russia. WTF has Trump actually accomplished on the world stage other than embarrass the United States and lose credibility of the United States.

It's always funny when people who loathe the US military start parading around a handful of members who say things they like.

Funny -- but never credible.

Funny how someone who doesn't know me makes shit up about me..
You are not funny and you are definitely not credible.
I bet you cannot find any evidence to back up your bullshit claim.
I challenge you to back up your self up.You successfully prove your comment and I'll leave USMB, if you can't, you leave USMB,
How about it?

 

[Markle]

Trump is a traitor and a criminal that needs to be removed and imprisoned for his treason against the United states! About time our military start standing up against him.

But you cannot prove diddly squat about what he, allegedly, has done. He has done none of what you and the other desperate, far-left progressives fantasize. Relax, take a deep breath and enjoy all the great things happening in our country!

Hearsay from dubious sites doesn't fly!

 

[daveman]

Can any of you Little Trumpsters produce a list of generals who support Trump's betrayal of the Kurds?
And you losers raging on McRaven, he is not the only general to slam Trump.
Another former CENTCOM general weighs in with displeasure over Trump’s Syria gambit
Retired Marine Gen. John Allen: 'There is blood on Trump's hands for abandoning our Kurdish allies' - CNNPolitics
‘Some of the Most Noble People I’d Ever Met’
Opinion: As a US military veteran, Trump's betrayal of the Kurds horrifies me
Former UK military chiefs condemn Trump’s ‘awful’ Syria decision – and its ramifications
Mattis: Trump's troop pullout will lead to 'disarray' in Syria and Isis resurgence
'Unfortunate': McMaster criticizes Trump's Syria troop withdrawal
I could go on and on.
Let's see what support military Trump has for his withdrawal and betrayal of the Kurds.
All I see are Little Trumpsters and his puppets. I mean, who would support a drafter dodger with zero experience in warfare and foreign affairs. Trump has been rolled by North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Russia. WTF has Trump actually accomplished on the world stage other than embarrass the United States and lose credibility of the United States.

It's always funny when people who loathe the US military start parading around a handful of members who say things they like.

Funny -- but never credible.

Funny how someone who doesn't know me makes shit up about me..
You are not funny and you are definitely not credible.
I bet you cannot find any evidence to back up your bullshit claim.
I challenge you to back up your self up.You successfully prove your comment and I'll leave USMB, if you can't, you leave USMB,
How about it?

Not interested. But if you support conservative military members, you're definitely not the usual leftist.

 

[kiwiman127]

Can any of you Little Trumpsters produce a list of generals who support Trump's betrayal of the Kurds?
And you losers raging on McRaven, he is not the only general to slam Trump.
Another former CENTCOM general weighs in with displeasure over Trump’s Syria gambit
Retired Marine Gen. John Allen: 'There is blood on Trump's hands for abandoning our Kurdish allies' - CNNPolitics
‘Some of the Most Noble People I’d Ever Met’
Opinion: As a US military veteran, Trump's betrayal of the Kurds horrifies me
Former UK military chiefs condemn Trump’s ‘awful’ Syria decision – and its ramifications
Mattis: Trump's troop pullout will lead to 'disarray' in Syria and Isis resurgence
'Unfortunate': McMaster criticizes Trump's Syria troop withdrawal
I could go on and on.
Let's see what support military Trump has for his withdrawal and betrayal of the Kurds.
All I see are Little Trumpsters and his puppets. I mean, who would support a drafter dodger with zero experience in warfare and foreign affairs. Trump has been rolled by North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Russia. WTF has Trump actually accomplished on the world stage other than embarrass the United States and lose credibility of the United States.

It's always funny when people who loathe the US military start parading around a handful of members who say things they like.

Funny -- but never credible.

Funny how someone who doesn't know me makes shit up about me..
You are not funny and you are definitely not credible.
I bet you cannot find any evidence to back up your bullshit claim.
I challenge you to back up your self up.You successfully prove your comment and I'll leave USMB, if you can't, you leave USMB,
How about it?

Not interested. But if you support conservative military members, you're definitely not the usual leftist.

I have supported our troops 100%, always have always will.
I am more in the centralist in the Independent mode. No ideology tells me how to think, I like that.
However, I am to the left of you as a centralist.
However, I am going to defend most of my liberal friends. They are as patriotic as anybody, one couple lost their son in Afghanistan and another couple's son returned with injuries and PTSD. None complain about the troops, but they complain about policy.

 

[daveman]

Can any of you Little Trumpsters produce a list of generals who support Trump's betrayal of the Kurds?
And you losers raging on McRaven, he is not the only general to slam Trump.
Another former CENTCOM general weighs in with displeasure over Trump’s Syria gambit
Retired Marine Gen. John Allen: 'There is blood on Trump's hands for abandoning our Kurdish allies' - CNNPolitics
‘Some of the Most Noble People I’d Ever Met’
Opinion: As a US military veteran, Trump's betrayal of the Kurds horrifies me
Former UK military chiefs condemn Trump’s ‘awful’ Syria decision – and its ramifications
Mattis: Trump's troop pullout will lead to 'disarray' in Syria and Isis resurgence
'Unfortunate': McMaster criticizes Trump's Syria troop withdrawal
I could go on and on.
Let's see what support military Trump has for his withdrawal and betrayal of the Kurds.
All I see are Little Trumpsters and his puppets. I mean, who would support a drafter dodger with zero experience in warfare and foreign affairs. Trump has been rolled by North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Russia. WTF has Trump actually accomplished on the world stage other than embarrass the United States and lose credibility of the United States.

It's always funny when people who loathe the US military start parading around a handful of members who say things they like.

Funny -- but never credible.

Funny how someone who doesn't know me makes shit up about me..
You are not funny and you are definitely not credible.
I bet you cannot find any evidence to back up your bullshit claim.
I challenge you to back up your self up.You successfully prove your comment and I'll leave USMB, if you can't, you leave USMB,
How about it?

Not interested. But if you support conservative military members, you're definitely not the usual leftist.

I have supported our troops 100%, always have always will.
I am more in the centralist in the Independent mode. No ideology tells me how to think, I like that.
However, I am to the left of you as a centralist.
However, I am going to defend most of my liberal friends. They are as patriotic as anybody, one couple lost their son in Afghanistan and another couple's son returned with injuries and PTSD. None complain about the troops, but they complain about policy.

Okay. I appreciate your support of the troops. Sincerely. And I offer my apologies for mischaracterizing you.