Ad casts McCain as strong, patriotic leader

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    I have a hard time seeing anyone willing to sell out the sovereignty of the US border as "strong and patriotic."
     
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    Doesn't matter who gets elected, the border will remain open and amnesty will be on the table with any of the 3 willing to sign it.
     
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    As someone living close to the border, it's extremely evident that our border laws are not working. And our tax dollars pay an overwhelming amount to house and feed illegals that we have detained. It's really out of control. Any president who is willing to suck in more illegals by providing amnesty is not someone I consider to be strong and patriotic.
     
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    Yeah, I know. Who's going to oppose it? The spineless Congressional Republicans who probably cringe and hide under the covers at the thought of being labelled racists for actually doing the right thing?
     
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    Agreed, his policies on illegal immigration, definetly leave a lot to be desired. I do believe though his overall platform he is running on is light years ahead of the competitors. Are we ever going to get a canidiate we completely agree with on every issue?
     
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    Why dont you guys tell us your solution and then tell us how much it will cost?

    There are real reasons to include a path to citizenship for those already here.

    What you all want is some emotion based result which is inhumain and will cost this country billions.
     
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    How are we paying to house and feed them?

    Is there a cost effective way to keep them out?
     
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    Your assumption is based on lack of informatin from each one of the posters in this thread. No one said that all illegals should go back to mexico or that we should never allow illegals in again.

    I have no problem with someone coming here to work and raise a family legally. But that's not we're talking about is it. We're talking about illegal immigration. If you want to defend the guys that come over and join the Mexican Sydicate and then murder innocent civilians for fun, than that's a terrible personal choice of your own.

    We addressed illegal immigration. If a president wants to just up and forgive everyone that has come over here illegally, than all of the criminals that came illegally will be forgiven as well and be permitted to stay.

    If you want to come over here and work and become a U.S. citizen legally, then that's fine, but when you break a law, you break a law. If you stowed away to Mexico and broke their law, you would be punished. Same thing with any other country.
     
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    Very few are involved in crime.

    They come because we provide them jobs which allow them to feed entire extended families in their homelands.

    We provide them no legal way in to do the jobs we allow them to come over and do.

    There is like an 18 year waiting list to get in and do it legally.

    Our own laws and insistance of not enforcing what laws we do have has caused this whole situation.

    Now tell me your solution and how much its going to cost the tax payer?
     
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    Well, you could have had a guy who, based on your positions, you would have agreed with on everything except foreign policy. Ron Paul. You also could have had Fred Thompson, who has a way better conservative record than Romney or McCain, but instead, America chose McCain.

    McCain is nowhere near "light years" ahead. The guy can't even figure out on his own what he believes. I'm FOR the tax cuts, I'm AGAINST the tax cuts. When he was against them, he had a good reason for it...no spending cuts accompanying them.

    Now, he's FOR them, and that's obviously only because it's an election year, and tax cuts have been made into one of the flavors of the Republican base, mainly by the MSM. Republican voters don't care about spending cuts anymore NEARLY as much as they care about tax cuts. McCain will not be cutting any spending. The man is going to sell this country out just as Hillary or Obama would.

    He's an establishment-backed media darling, just like the Dem candidates.

    You're not going to get what you truely want in this country out of a candidate until you're willing to put your name behind a candidate who isn't as well known.

    Check out http://www.paulcongress.com/Candidates.html. These are all the men and women running for federal and state congress that have REAL conservative records to back up their rhetoric.

    It's not just about the president, jreeves. There's probably going to still be a Dem majority in congress after this election anyway, so the only things McCain is going to be able to push through are his most liberal agendas, and he's obviously got more than a few of those.

    Think locally, dude. Canvass your community and help get REAL CONSERVATIVES elected, not the fake kind.
     

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