Actual gun control that will work...Chicago might finally get it...

[westwall]

Laugh all you want but THE most violent cities in the USA are ALL progressive controlled. That's a fact that YOU have to live with.

THE most violent cities in the USA were financially gutted by corporate America.

You are truly delusional. Detroit managed to spend (all by its little lonesome) 16 BILLION dollars. That was PROGRESSIVE morons, such as yourself, being given the keys to the kingdom, and they screwed that city up so bad it has lost over half its population. Corporate Detroit gave the city all of that money. All of it. What is left of all that money? Progressive politicians stole it, bureaucrats stole it, corrupt cops stole it, everybody in government stole it!

Except the poor and middle class. They got milked of what they had, or were paid a pittance so that the PROGRESSIVE POLITICIANS could steal with no interference.

You're such a pathetic turd.

 

[westwall]

Whatever -- if sarcasm is over your head, maybe you should, y'know, quit ducking.

But again illustrative is your obsession with hanging labels on others (that you refuse to define) as well as hanging emotions that were never articulated. You really should seek professional help with that authoritarian complex.

My eight year old daughter understands, and uses, sarcasm better than you ever will.

 

[jon_berzerk]

okay moron...we aren't locking up gun criminals....they get short sentences and are released to use guns again....the example I give...in chicago we had 3 guys, 2 with previous gun convictions...sentenced to 3 years, given "Boot Camp" alternative, and were out in 18 months.....and in less than a month they shot up a park full of people....had they been in for 10 years they wouldn't have shot up the park and the word would get around to not use or carry guns.....

And when they were released --- it was to exactly the same world that generated them.

But ya know what, let's just extend the time, do the same thing and expect different results. There's a plan.

Yes....and if we just give them a big hug they will stop killing people with guns.....locking them up keeps them from killing people......and in a democrat run city where they destroy the education system, drive out jobs and tax people into leaving the city and the state.....locking up the killers gives us time to fix what the democrats have broken....

A "Democrat run city"?

As opposed to ...... where? Get me a list of "Republican-run cities".
Then tell us how they run a city any differently because of the letter after their name.

Laugh all you want but THE most violent cities in the USA are ALL progressive controlled. That's a fact that YOU have to live with.

Indeed. The BS "progressive" experiment is a miserable failure. No amount of propaganda can change that. The liberal mindset is a lie.

a dangerous lie

 

[prison/con.net]

half of the illegals here have BEEN deported, at least once, and MANY of them have been deported multiple times. Until 15 or so years ago, the Feds didn't even bother to Fingerprint them!

 

[prison/con.net]

you can NOT (legally) keep them locked away forever, unless you alter the gun sentences to carry life without parole. The states don't have the MONEY with which to fund the massive increases in the prison population which you are proposing, unless they give up the long sentences for dope.

 

[prison/con.net]

You'd have to change the sentence maximums to life. the prison sytem (Feds too) is overfilled. it takes 100 millin $ and 5 years to build a new Federal prison , holding at most 2000 inmates. So you are talking billions of $, and a decade or more, to have your dream about locking up gun guys forever. Unless you release a bunch of dope felons, and stop wasting resources on giving them long sentences

 

[dannyboys]

Solution: Get caught using a gun during a commission of a crime...any crime and you 'disappear'.
One way plane ticket to a GPS coordinate two hundred miles out to sea. Ten thousand foot elevation. Out you go.

 

[2aguy]

Laugh all you want but THE most violent cities in the USA are ALL progressive controlled. That's a fact that YOU have to live with.

THE most violent cities in the USA were financially gutted by corporate America.

Bullshit.....they have been gutted by democrat governing policies....undermine, underfund and under staff the police, drive out businesses and tax payers through exessive taxes, waste, fraud and abuse, destroy the education system by protecting unions over students and set up a tag team between public sector unions and democrat politicians to increase union benefits to the point they destroy the cities, and funnel union dues to the politicians who set union benefits........

That is what destroyed these cities......

 

[2aguy]

Illinois is controlled by democrats..in particular Mike Madigan speaker of the house...the democrats just submitted a budget with a 3 billion dollar deficit which they are constitutionally not allowed to do......

 

[Roadrunner]

After out shooting gallery of a weekend...12 dead and over 50 shot....the Chicago authorities might actually be on to how to stop the gang violence......I heard a news conference on the Roe Conn Show on WGN and 2 proposals are all they need...the parenting classes are crap.....the real solutions...

1) longer sentences for gun crimes

2) Charge them with domestic terrorism and get them federal time...

Finally...gun control that will work....Roe mentioned putting these guys in the federal system does one thing...moves them into the federal prison system...and out of state....away from family and gang support systems......

It will take a few convictions to get the point across...but these are two gun control measures will work...

A person that uses a gun to commit a violent crime should be executed, as should any convicted felon caught possessing a gun.

Add a ten year sentence for parents of juvenile who commit violent crimes with a handgun, and the point would be made quickly.

 

[2aguy]

Yes....the death penalty for violent gun crimes would work.....

 

[Roadrunner]

Yes....the death penalty for violent gun crimes would work.....

Certainly is the best cure for repeat offenders.

 

[Wry Catcher]

After out shooting gallery of a weekend...12 dead and over 50 shot....the Chicago authorities might actually be on to how to stop the gang violence......I heard a news conference on the Roe Conn Show on WGN and 2 proposals are all they need...the parenting classes are crap.....the real solutions...

1) longer sentences for gun crimes

2) Charge them with domestic terrorism and get them federal time...

Finally...gun control that will work....Roe mentioned putting these guys in the federal system does one thing...moves them into the federal prison system...and out of state....away from family and gang support systems......

It will take a few convictions to get the point across...but these are two gun control measures will work...

Really smart, really fiscally responsible - not.

BTW, isn't threatening a person who uses a gun in self defense an infringement on his or her Second Amendment Rights? Do you know for a fact that those shot in Citown were not threatening those who shot them? And yet you want to send someone exercising their absolute right to own, possess and have in their custody and control a gun to federal prison.

Shame on you, it's time to surrender your NRA card.

 

[2aguy]

After out shooting gallery of a weekend...12 dead and over 50 shot....the Chicago authorities might actually be on to how to stop the gang violence......I heard a news conference on the Roe Conn Show on WGN and 2 proposals are all they need...the parenting classes are crap.....the real solutions...

1) longer sentences for gun crimes

2) Charge them with domestic terrorism and get them federal time...

Finally...gun control that will work....Roe mentioned putting these guys in the federal system does one thing...moves them into the federal prison system...and out of state....away from family and gang support systems......

It will take a few convictions to get the point across...but these are two gun control measures will work...

Really smart, really fiscally responsible - not.

BTW, isn't threatening a person who uses a gun in self defense an infringement on his or her Second Amendment Rights? Do you know for a fact that those shot in Citown were not threatening those who shot them? And yet you want to send someone exercising their absolute right to own, possess and have in their custody and control a gun to federal prison.

Shame on you, it's time to surrender your NRA card.

They were already convicted felons on parole for previous weapons charges when they shot up the park....so...not worried about my standing in the NRA since the NRA actually wants criminals disarmed, not law abiding citizens.....

 

[2aguy]

This is why we have gun crime....

Rahm Emanuel Epic Failure Of Chicago Gun Control Proves More Gun Control Needed

An interesting side note — Syracuse University’s track data on enforcement of federal gun laws in 2012 found that “out of 90 jurisdictions in the country, [Chicago] ranked 90th.”

Lock up the criminals who use guns or have them in their possession...that is the only gun control that works....

 

[M14 Shooter]

After out shooting gallery of a weekend...12 dead and over 50 shot....the Chicago authorities might actually be on to how to stop the gang violence......I heard a news conference on the Roe Conn Show on WGN and 2 proposals are all they need...the parenting classes are crap.....the real solutions...

1) longer sentences for gun crimes

2) Charge them with domestic terrorism and get them federal time...

Finally...gun control that will work....Roe mentioned putting these guys in the federal system does one thing...moves them into the federal prison system...and out of state....away from family and gang support systems......

It will take a few convictions to get the point across...but these are two gun control measures will work...

Really smart, really fiscally responsible - not.

BTW, isn't threatening a person who uses a gun in self defense an infringement on his or her Second Amendment Rights? Do you know for a fact that those shot in Citown were not threatening those who shot them? And yet you want to send someone exercising their absolute right to own, possess and have in their custody and control a gun to federal prison.

Shame on you, it's time to surrender your NRA card.

Oh look... they guy who knows he can only run way from an "honest, open debate" on gun control.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

After out shooting gallery of a weekend...12 dead and over 50 shot....the Chicago authorities might actually be on to how to stop the gang violence......I heard a news conference on the Roe Conn Show on WGN and 2 proposals are all they need...the parenting classes are crap.....the real solutions...

1) longer sentences for gun crimes

2) Charge them with domestic terrorism and get them federal time...

Finally...gun control that will work....Roe mentioned putting these guys in the federal system does one thing...moves them into the federal prison system...and out of state....away from family and gang support systems......

It will take a few convictions to get the point across...but these are two gun control measures will work...

Surely we can just make some more gun laws.....that'll fix everything.
But yeah I could see where longer prison sentences would help.
Not sure about sending em to club fed.

 

[Wry Catcher]

After out shooting gallery of a weekend...12 dead and over 50 shot....the Chicago authorities might actually be on to how to stop the gang violence......I heard a news conference on the Roe Conn Show on WGN and 2 proposals are all they need...the parenting classes are crap.....the real solutions...

1) longer sentences for gun crimes

2) Charge them with domestic terrorism and get them federal time...

Finally...gun control that will work....Roe mentioned putting these guys in the federal system does one thing...moves them into the federal prison system...and out of state....away from family and gang support systems......

It will take a few convictions to get the point across...but these are two gun control measures will work...

Really smart, really fiscally responsible - not.

BTW, isn't threatening a person who uses a gun in self defense an infringement on his or her Second Amendment Rights? Do you know for a fact that those shot in Citown were not threatening those who shot them? And yet you want to send someone exercising their absolute right to own, possess and have in their custody and control a gun to federal prison.

Shame on you, it's time to surrender your NRA card.

Oh look... they guy who knows he can only run way from an "honest, open debate" on gun control.

Shame on you, it's time to surrender your NRA card. How dare you spam a post wherein a credible argument for the Rights of the Second Amendment is posted.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Longer sentences!! of course! Why didn't we think of this before?? It's not that we have a gun culture with firearms glorified 24/7 with easy access --- we just weren't keepin' 'em locked up quite long enough! Why let's put this into action tomorrow and the earth will smell of roses forevermore!

Brilliant, problem solved, huzzah, yay us.

okay moron...we aren't locking up gun criminals....they get short sentences and are released to use guns again....the example I give...in chicago we had 3 guys, 2 with previous gun convictions...sentenced to 3 years, given "Boot Camp" alternative, and were out in 18 months.....and in less than a month they shot up a park full of people....had they been in for 10 years they wouldn't have shot up the park and the word would get around to not use or carry guns.....

And when they were released --- it was to exactly the same world that generated them.

But ya know what, let's just extend the time, do the same thing and expect different results. There's a plan.

We'll see how full of piss and vinegar they are when they get out of prison and they're in their sixties.

 

[Wry Catcher]

This is why we have gun crime....

Rahm Emanuel Epic Failure Of Chicago Gun Control Proves More Gun Control Needed

An interesting side note — Syracuse University’s track data on enforcement of federal gun laws in 2012 found that “out of 90 jurisdictions in the country, [Chicago] ranked 90th.”

Lock up the criminals who use guns or have them in their possession...that is the only gun control that works....

How does that stop those who are not criminals until they actually commit a crime? Are you a "Pre-Cog"?

"In the year 2054 A.D. crime is virtually eliminated from Washington D.C. thanks to an elite law enforcing squad "Precrime". They use three gifted humans (called "Pre-Cogs") with special powers to see into the future and predict crimes beforehand."

See: Minority Report 2002 - Plot Summary - IMDb