ACLU finally wakes up?

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    For the last 10 years the ACLU has been vigilant and concerned that some kid might sneak into school with a Bible in his hand while the secret FISA court has approved 98% of secret surveillance by the NSA and other covert arms of the federal government. The ACLU didn't wake up until the story broke. Maybe it's time to get the priorities straight and realize that the modern version of "separation of church and state" might not be the biggest threat to the Country.
     
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    Are you referring to the Anti Capitalist Leftist Union?
     
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    ACLU has always represented and defended what the Constitution stands for, those who see the ACLU as any thing else are on the opposite side of the Constitution regarding an issue it is defending.
     
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    Watch out noose, this is the clean debate zone. God help us if our "civil liberties" are diminished by a Christmas display on public property while secret courts are authorizing surveillance (and executions?) of American citizens.
     
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    http://news.yahoo.com/aclu-defends-...commandments-posters-20110303-160200-652.html


    http://www.aclu.org/aclu-defense-religious-practice-and-expression-public-schools

    " The ACLU vigorously defends the rights of all Americans to practice their religion and express their faith, including public school students. Below are examples of our advocacy over the past decade on behalf of students of a variety of faiths."

    From their website.
     
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    Separation of Church and state, Christmas is a religious holiday, some times the constitution gets in the way of what some people want. ACLU stands up against both religious expression by the government and government spying on the people.
     
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    To be fair.. And I'm NOT a fan of the ACLU, but the Institute for Justice --- The ACLU HAS taken a pretty good stand against the Patriot Act.. Remember that you can't go to court ACCUSING the GOVT of exceeding the Patriot Act standards WITH NO PROOF..

    So the next best thing is to remove the legislation ENABLING that abuse.. Should have been done b4 they BUILT THIS with our tax dollars.. Any citizen should look at it and SEE the Patriot Act and how the terrorists have won...

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    No. the ACLU represents the religion of Atheism, which cannot tolerate opposing viewpoints. Why is it that most other religious groups are not "offended" by these displays/holidays?
     
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    Atheism is not a religion, and separation of Church and state means government can not endorse religion which it does when putting up religious displays during religious holidays.
     
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    I think I proved a few posts back that your statement is untrue. The ACLU has represented Christians, and Christian students.
     

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