ACLU defends girl's lewd MySpace principal parody

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    ACLU defends girl's lewd MySpace principal parody - Yahoo! News

    As a civil libertarian and supporter of student rights, I of course hope that her free speech rights are upheld. However, I genuinely don't know the way this will go. Tinker v. Des Moines certainly upheld student free speech rights and Hustler Magazine v. Falwell clearly establishes protection for parody, but there have always been greater limitations on student constitutional rights, particularly in the way of speech (Bethel v. Fraser, Hazelwood v. Kuhlmeier, Morse v. Frederick, etc.) Tinker v. Des Moines may not even be relevant if they determine that she acted in an entirely non-student capacity, though I do remember a case in which the punishment of a student who shouted a profanity at a teacher outside of school was upheld (though not the name), and they could theoretically claim that this caused a substantial disturbance within the school, thereby interrupting activities there.

    The fact that her mother opposes the suspension is also important; much of the authority delegated to school officials over students stems from the doctrine that they act in loco parentis (in the place of the parent), and a clear-cut divergence between school administrators and a parent could prove instrumental.
     
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    No doubt MySpace deleted the page, as was proper. It's against their terms of service.
     
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    Probably. Come to think of it, I hadn't considered the fact that the Lori Drew case technically made it a criminal act to register with a false name on MySpace (or with any other online registration system, possibly), considering what she was charged with. But even a libel suit will probably not play a role in this case, let alone criminal charges. For that matter, Lori Drew was simply punished by vindictive individuals rather than sentenced for a legitimate crime.
     
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    If the argument to enforce the punishment is that the disturbance caused by this video disrupted class, then by that logic any disturbance can be punishable. I went to public schools in MD and I remember the MSPAP's (standardized testing) taking up an entire week. We did absolutely nothing in class besides the test which was only 2 or 3 hours in the morning. We would even have picnics and parties during school time. My point being that just because learning was interupted doesn't mean that the child's or parent's rights are null and void because it happens all the time for an infinite number of reasons.
     
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    How is being suspended a violation of one's rights? That's the part I don't understand. So you can't go to school for a few days. BFD.
     
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    Yeah, I always enjoyed the vacation. :cool:
     
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    If you list a school on myspace, you can usually go into a myspace "app" (lack of better term) that has everyone from that school in one easy to find place.

    I went through my high schools page, and found a page that was supposedly made by the Vice Principal (a real cool guy actually). Of course it was a parody, with a pic of him and multiple pics of guys in bathtubs together and such with funny tag lines like "what I do in my spare time" and "I was behind the camera"....all in all it was pretty funny, but of course, it was deleted in a few days.

    Free speech. If you cant take that kind of heat, you shouldnt be a principal these days.

    But of course, myspace is fucked up anyways. Send a drunken REPLY to a bitchy ex-gf and you have your page deleted. RECEIVE a total death threat from another girl, and they do nothing about it but make excuses.
     
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    Knowing very little of the nuances of the case, I would say that she should not be suspended from the school as her inappropriate actions was not done during school.

    However, I think they principal should sue MySpace and the girl's parents for slander.

    Either way, the girl will likely be suspended for something else unless she is a saint the rest of her tenure at the school.
     
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    Absolutely.

    She's better mind her P's and Q's, thats for damn sure.

    If I were her, I'd wave and say hello to the principal everytime I saw em too :lol:
     
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    I hope the ACLU wins. Then the principal can file a lawsuit against the girl for Defamation of Charater. You know teach her the real consequences of her actions.
     

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