Abstinence only works?!?!?

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    First - credit to Missourian for posting this link.

    Second, let me start with a disclaimer that, though I fall pretty far to the right on many issues, I have never believed in abstinence programs and thought them rather foolish. Who believe that people actually follow an abstinence program anyway? I have seen many members laugh at anyone for even suggesting it and ridiculing them as the programs are completely ineffective. This study, on CNN health - certainly not a RW echo chamber so don't attack the source, says otherwise:
    Study: Abstinence program most effective at delaying sex among youths - CNN

    Personally, I think it may be due to the limited scope (age most likely) the study take but it may be a point that we need a merging of BOTH abstinence only programs at a young age and sexual education courses later (like high school age).


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    yes telling kids the beifits of waiting until they are older to enguage in sex is a good idea.

    I have no problem with telling them this , I told my own child this.

    Its when they want it to be the only thing you teach them about sex that it is wrong

    Educate them about sex and also tell them WHY its best to wait and why its best to limit your partners.
     
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    Damn TM that is the best post I have ever seen from you.

    Reps your way.
     
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    Anyone who thinks abstinence only works is a naive fool
     
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    "In “A Study of History,” by Arnold J. Toynbee, in the chapter called ‘Schism in the Soul, “Toynbee observed that one of the consistent symptoms of a disintegrating civilization is that elites begin to imitate the bottom of society. Toynbee says the growth phase of civilization is led by a creative minority who have a strong, self-confident sense of style, virtue and purpose. The uncreative majority follows along through attempts to imitate the creative minority. In disintegrating civilizations, the creative minority (elites) are no longer confident and setting the example. They "lapse into truancy" (reject the obligations of citizenship) and "surrender to a sense of promiscuity" (succumb to vulgarization of manners, the arts and language). Until a few decades ago, the groups we used to call "low-class" or "trash", are now called the underclass. The upper-class, instead of challenging trashy behavior, often imitates and placates it.

    a. … four-letter words were unknown in public discourse and among the elites and were used sparingly even in private discourse. Today, vulgar language knows no class, sex, age or place. As late as 1960, sleeping with one's boyfriend was mostly a lower-class thing. It was deemed sluttish and something to be kept secret; today it's open and assumed to be normal…. In some instances, unwed mothers proudly hold baby showers celebrating their illegitimate offspring. Homosexual marriages were unheard of; today, in some jurisdictions, homosexual marriages have legal sanction. Of course, to be judgmental about the new codes of conduct is to risk being labeled a prude and possibly a racist, sexist or a homophobe.”
    America's New Role Models


    There was a time when said programs were unnecessary.....


    I you might find Charles Murray's "Coming Apart" an epiphany.
     
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    Perhaps you should review your upbringing...
     
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    It does work.
    abstinace ONLY doesnt
     
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    Oh my appollogies .

    I guess I havent had enough coffe yet.

    You said only and I didnt see it.
     
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    He dead on, your wrong
     
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    The bottom line result. Half of all births in the US are to single parent households.

    If anyone has the courage to look further down the road, The obstacles become too numerous to negotiate.
     

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