About The Iraqi "Insurgents"

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    There are few actual insurgents, most are terrorists from other lands.

    Now something positive, that DOES have to do with Iraqis:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...rq04.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/07/04/ixworld.html
     
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    Looks like the Iraqis are getting mad. Now if they just start hanging them from bridges and dragging their bodies through the streets while al jezera films it all, then we really have a break thru.

    Once again, isn't it odd that the MSM isn't covering all this.
     
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    I have been stating this for a while. How does the average Iraqi differentiate between the people with guns?
    If you allow the Iraqi people to determine who their real enemy is, they will know who to fight against.
     
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    Not quite what YOU have been saying Gabby, rather you have been saying that the Iraqis do NOT want the US there, failing to see that while they DON'T want us there permanently, they NEED us there for a time. I know at 21, the idea of 5-10 years seems like a lot, all I can tell you is that a decade from now, will seem very short, you are on that cusp.

    Some of your posts:

    http://www.usmessageboard.com/forums/showpost.php?p=300177&postcount=4

    http://www.usmessageboard.com/forums/showpost.php?p=299141&postcount=6

    http://www.usmessageboard.com/forums/showpost.php?p=299028&postcount=40

    http://www.usmessageboard.com/forums/showpost.php?p=298572&postcount=1
    Uh, for the above, YOU will have to wade through the Al Jezerra article you posted, once was enough for me.
     
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    this is just a propaganda peace imo. If the Iraqi population would truly
    oppose the terrorist they would not be able to operate on the level
    they do. The antisemitic attitude runs deep in Iraq. Thats why they
    call the American troops jews.

    The only thing that can get a change of mind is massive bloodshed
    and for political reason that is not an option.

    With the Us public already weak, I start to think this will not work out.
     
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    Actually there have been increasing 'red on red' attacks, those that show the Iraqis fighting the insurgents. That is a necessary prelude to any hope of peace.

    http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/007038.php

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/002200.html

    http://www.indepundit.com/archive2/2005/06/red_on_red.html
     
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    I hope the Iraqi will comprehend that they can gain more from cooperating
    with the US then playing martyrs for the Islamist extremists.

    The key will be to get the Sunni's back into the government so their
    leader start cracking down on the foreign networks.
     
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    I can agree with your statement to a point, but not just Iraq. Arabs in general, not just radical Islamists, are taught from birth that we are evil colonialists and not to trust us.

    These tribes probably didn't take too much crap off of Saddam, and they aren't going to take it off of us, nor even Zarqawi. TO them, he's just one more interloper. You'd think HE'd at least recognize that, even if we refuse to.
     

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