About That Torture Manual

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  1. Annie
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    I didn't realize no one has mentioned this:

    http://opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110010125

    Now the manual/pics can be found here. I'm not going to post any of it, definately not child/work safe!
     
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    Yowtch... I noticed the torturers in the drawings are often smiling...
     
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    Yeah and what have we heard about any of this? Gitmo however garnered how much ink? The media in this country becomes more disgraceful by the day.
     
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    Yeah, you would think at least ONE of the mainstream media outlets would've covered this.

    It just gets better by the day.:eusa_eh:
     
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    Are you really surprised the MSM has ignored this story?

    To them Gunny - the US is the one who tortures their captives, not the terrorists


    NINE DAYS AFTER PHOTOS RELEASED, NETS AND TOP
    PAPERS SILENT OVER AL-QAEDA TORTURE HOUSE

    Yet Top Media Ran More Than 6,000 Stories on Abu Ghraib Abuses


    ALEXANDRIA, VA—The U.S. Defense Department released photos last week of an al-Qaeda torture chamber in Iraq, which showed various torture tools—blow torches, meat cleavers, hammers, drills, metal files—drawings of torture methods, and photos of actual victims found in another house in Karmah who had been burned, mutilated, and tortured in myriad ways.

    To their credit, CNN and Fox News Channel ran stories on the declassified material. Yet nine days since the material was released, neither ABC, CBS, NBC, The New York Times nor The Washington Post has run a story with the photos of this shocking evidence of al-Qaeda’s barbarism.

    Concerning the top media’s silence on the al-Qaeda torture chamber in Iraq, MRC President Brent Bozell issued the following statement:

    “The elite media’s liberal bias is abundantly clear in this case. U.S. soldiers raided several al-Qaeda safe houses in Iraq and discovered stacks of evidence about how al-Qaeda tortures its victims. The tools, the drawings, and the photos are gruesome and clearly show what type of enemy the U.S. is facing.

    “Yet most of the liberal media are deliberately silent. This is the same self-righteous liberal media that ran more than 6,000 stories and countless photos of Abu Ghraib and the abuse of prisoners there by several U.S. soldiers. Where are they now? Why will they not show the American people what al-Qaeda is actually doing in Iraq right now? Whose side are they on?

    “Al-Qaeda’s crimes are a thousand-fold more brutal than anything done by any derelict U.S. soldier. Yet it’s obvious now that the liberal media want to focus on U.S. misdeeds, and alleged misdeeds, and theoretical misdeeds instead of giving the truth to the American people.”

    http://www.mrc.org/press/2007/press20070531.asp
     
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    Even more noticeable to me is the overwhelming silence of the prolific liberal membership of USMB. Not one has posted in this thread. I would have at least expected to see a post declaring that such actions (torture) committed by the "insurgents" is "...justified because it's the only weapon they have..."

    Very strange, no?
     
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    Not really

    This thread goes against the liberal agenda - Amercia is the big bully of the world and WE are the real terrorists
     
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    From the Article:

    I am glad to see that at least 2 msm outlets reported it! All of them should have, just to be thorough.

    Perhaps, Alqaeda torturing and having manuals and tools to torture is not news, it is something WE ALL KNOW occurs with these terrorists, after all they will kill themselves just to kill others, torture is just one of the tactics you would EXPECT them to have after knowing that....imo.

    Thus an Alqaeda torture chamber is not major news maybe???

    However, Americans Torturing is news, especially when we fostered the creation of the Geneva Convention Treaty, and boasted about it over the years, showing how America is better than our enemies out there....

    Abu Ghraib and other incidences of torture or rape or murder by our usa military is news....and of course sadly, it does sell too, which I am certain is why they OVER REPORTED IT. But also reported was the indictments and convictions of our soldiers that did these wrongs too!

    Note! I still think the coverage of such mistakes is an attribute to our Freedom and the great country we live in.

    Care
     
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    Care4, as you say the media was all over the 'Geneva Conventions' though in the circumstances they did not apply. Bully and I went on and on about such.
     
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    Kathi...what I highlighted above is a matter of interpretation...not necessarily true to be the case. Gonzales argued that the Geneva Convention didn't mean what we always thought it meant and Bush/Cheney, "went with that", there are many legal scholars that believe otherwise and this has been a huge issue in and of itself, with or without any incidences in Abu Ghraib and other prisons... at least from what I have read about it.

    Just another issue to be divided on with differing, and new interpretations being presented imo. :(

    care
     

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