About Obama and possibilty of losing SSI

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  1. RobinPhelps3
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    As of this moment I won't say hate because that is a strong word, but I am very unhappy with the things I am hearing about how the President can just take our SSI and the elders Social Security at the drop of a hat. I mean there has to be another way to do this.

    Most of us depend on our checks we cannot go a whole payday without money, we will lose our homes or apartments, our cars, our insurance and without it well I will DIE!!!

    I am sure others are in the same spot as me.


    I do not get out because I am on 8 liters of oxygen and 10 liters at night, and my tanks I use only last 45 minutes.

    The truck we have only seats 2 people and no backseat so only holds 2 tanks so I am limited on where I can go.

    When I get my check I pay my bills then I am broke. My check just barely pays my bills and if I did not get food stamps I would starve to death.

    I have several Illnesses:
    Lupus
    COPD
    Congestive Heart Failure
    Epilepsy
    Vertigo
    Emphysema
    Atrial Fibrillation

    I am sure there are others out there that are in worse condition than I am and this is not fair to do this to me or them, and Someone has to do something and soon because time is wasting for us.
    If there is someone out there that can help us please stand up and do this because like I said many of us depend or should I say Live on what we get each month which might I say is hardly enough but we seem to get by, now you want to take what little we do get and just say well I cannot send your money to you because I need it!!!! This is not an answer and why are you being selfish? :(

    What did any of us do to you? Does anyone else agree with me please reply to this!!!

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    Robin Phelps
     
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    Robin, you are blaming the wrong person. The President is trying to prevent the destruction of the Social Security system. The GOP is doing there best to destroy it, as they have been since Roosevelt.

    The President cannot take your SS at the drop of a hat. But the Congress can deny him the money with which to pay SS. And that is exactly what they want to do.
     
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    By the way, the GOP would also end your Medicare. They would prefer that people like you just die.
     
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    What a bullshit lie. SS is paid every MONTH Congress does not stop it. If it is not paid in August it will be because the President illegally diverted those funds for other programs.
     
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    Let's not be too hasty, there.

    Robin never mentioned whether-or-not he(?)/she(?) was White; pretty-damned-critical when Republicans are "evaluating" entitlements.​

     
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    Aw, c'mon.....show a lil' compassion.

    You could (at least) remind Robin that he(?)/she(?) is still entitled to SSI....that Republicans/Corporate America haven't yet modified the issue.....and, suckered people (young-enough/stupid-enough) to "roll" their retirement-buck$ in the Wall Street Casino!

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    Man you are so drinking Obama's Kool aid aren't you. What plan has Obama even put out there .. NONE!!! Unless you want to put he wants to tax the rich AGAIN! He doesn't have to default on anything. We have enough money to come in to pay the interest, pay SS, Pay the military active and retired . He is putting fear into Seniors so he can get the vote next time plain and simple. This whole thing about this is all about politics, Boehner is doing what the people wanted to stop the spending in Washington. Obama is trying to get re elected. The speech the other night was a re election speech. Obama only interest is his own.
     
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    Liar Liar big fat pants on FIRE.
     
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    Social Security and Medicare have their own funds. So this Debt talk shouldn't have anything to do with them.

    In the case of Social Security, they have a trust fund of US Bonds. So even if the money they take in can't meet all the obligations, they can sell off those bonds. (The problem, of course, is that for decades, the government has been converting that money into bonds so they could buy bombers and bridges instead of putting it into an account.)

    Social Security has always been a Ponzi Scheme. While I can feel for a person like Robin, the fact is, with the conditions she describes, she is probably taking a lot more out of SS and Medicare than she ever paid in. What we have to stop doing with SSI is pretending it was ever a "retirement program". It isn't. It's charity. It's welfare. It's wealth redistribution. Call it what it is.

    It makes no sense for Bill Gates to receive Social Security when he hits 65, but he will. So will a lot of other wealthy people, because they need to maintain the mythology that it's a "retirement program". Once we get past the smoke and mirrors, we can make evaluations about what we should and shouldn't pay for, nad what is the most effective way to do it.
     
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    The problem, JoeB is this....

    If the US reneges on its dubt obligations then the MARKET VALUE of all US debt insturments falls.

    Since the SSA owns DEBT INSTRUMENTS ISSUED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, even if they CAN sell them (I'm informed they cannot) their value will have dropped significantly due to the government RENEGING on them.
     

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