I see that even though you claimed that you could present a sitiuation in which one person's dependence upon another would be analogous to the relationship between mother and child. Obviously, you can't so you begin the song and dance. It is you who must modify and modify. You claim that you can present one sort of situation and when it becomes evidence that you can't, then you begin modifying. My statement remains the same as when we first started. It is you who can't deliver on what you claimed to be "no problem". I am still asking for you to describe a situation in which through no actions of your own, you might find yourself connected to me and dependent upon my bodily systems for your survial. Either you can do that, or you can't. If you can't then you have no apt analogy to support your argument. I never said that I was pro life. In fact, I'm not. I am anti abortion on demand.