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I completely agree with the last part. I am obviously VERY "pro-choice" but using abortion for "birth control" irks me. But i still wouldnt tell someone they cant benefit from science because they are irresponsible butt heads. Not to mention, they probably wont make good parents anyways.Well, keep your legs closed. Most protection works, but let's be honest, most abortions are from careless sexWhat is barbaric is controlling our reproduction, what we allow to happen with our bodies. No one is saying you HAVE TO terminate an unwanted pregnancy if you don't believe in it. However, no one should be able to tell a woman that she MUST reproduce. The current relaxing of employers' duty to provide birth control coverage and the targeted attacks against Planned Parenthood are a double attack on women's right to choose.Using standard definitions, socially 'moral' in the legal sense - personally immoral. It is a barbaric medical procedure that dehumanizes the 'victim', much as slavery did, a tactic used by most of the worlds cruelest tyrants to justify mass murder and genocide.
Pregnancy - easiest of all STD's to avoid.
Women know if they are ready, willing and able to commit to the enormous responsibility of being a parent. Each woman needs to be free to choose.
So, it would be immoral to support to allowance of illegal immigrants to come and stay here by that logic, correct?But not everyone in society feels it is moral. Does law equal societal morals?
It does...unless changed, modified. That's what a societies moral code is, the law. Even when the sides are as clearly divided as they are. It is the age old question - because the right to do something exists, is it right to do that thing? Which is all that we are left with when what is legal is considered barbaric...that, and taking a stand. Similar situation with the death penalty. Also justifiable by proponents, also considered barbaric by opponents.
Maybe we need a civil and SERIOUS debate forum. Silly boys!
As far as abortion? Well, my belief is that a baby isn't really "alive" until it draws it's first breath. In the Bible, it states that Adam and Eve weren't really alive until God breathed the breath of Life into them, so, I'll take God's example for when a human is "alive".
And..............when you stop breathing, you no longer are alive.
And...............telling people to simply not have sex is a non starter. Why? Because reproduction is a basic survival response, and to go against that is to go against human nature.
As far as abortion? Well, my belief is that a baby isn't really "alive" until it draws it's first breath. In the Bible, it states that Adam and Eve weren't really alive until God breathed the breath of Life into them, so, I'll take God's example for when a human is "alive".
And..............when you stop breathing, you no longer are alive.
What do you say to this example from God...his words to Jeremiah?
Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,
before you were born I set you apart;
I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”
And...............telling people to simply not have sex is a non starter. Why? Because reproduction is a basic survival response, and to go against that is to go against human nature.
Most of our laws 'go against human nature', that's why we need them. Letting young people know that no birth control is 100% effective (save abstinence or sterilization), is arming them with information they need to have to make their choices. That is not advocating for or against.
But if you were responding to my comment - I didn't tell anyone to abstain - merely stated that unwanted pregnancy is easily avoided today.
And, exactly WHAT law is it that stops people from having sex? I don't know of any, and telling people to simply abstain is pure rubbish, because of basic human instinct.
What facts are there that say whether a fetus is a human?what facts?The way you look at is. The process isnt. Duh lolAbortion is not subjective.
Ok fine but the way someone looks at it doesn't change facts and the facts mean there is no argument.
The fact that abortion kills a human child.
It doesnt meet the criteria for a living organism or human.
So, it would be immoral to support to allowance of illegal immigrants to come and stay here by that logic, correct?
science says what? Pretty sure science says its both ways because its SUBJECTIVE. They can NOT agree on whether a fetus is a human "life" or not. Possibly because it doesnt meet criteria for life.What facts are there that say whether a fetus is a human?what facts?The way you look at is. The process isnt. Duh lol
Ok fine but the way someone looks at it doesn't change facts and the facts mean there is no argument.
The fact that abortion kills a human child.
It doesnt meet the criteria for a living organism or human.
Science says so. The fact that if left alone, a human being is born.
science says what? Pretty sure science says its both ways because its SUBJECTIVE. They can NOT agree on whether a fetus is a human "life" or not. Possibly because it doesnt meet criteria for life.What facts are there that say whether a fetus is a human?what facts?Ok fine but the way someone looks at it doesn't change facts and the facts mean there is no argument.
The fact that abortion kills a human child.
It doesnt meet the criteria for a living organism or human.
Science says so. The fact that if left alone, a human being is born.
of course it will become a human being. I was referring to basic biology... I was referring to what i said.science says what? Pretty sure science says its both ways because its SUBJECTIVE. They can NOT agree on whether a fetus is a human "life" or not. Possibly because it doesnt meet criteria for life.What facts are there that say whether a fetus is a human?what facts?
The fact that abortion kills a human child.
It doesnt meet the criteria for a living organism or human.
Science says so. The fact that if left alone, a human being is born.
Garbage. There isn't one single biologist or scientist who is involved in the human body in any way who will deny that if left alone, a human fetus will become a human being. Not one. They will confirm positively that a human fetus has human DNA. The fact that it cannot live outside the mother for at least 28 weeks is irrelevant.
science says what? Pretty sure science says its both ways because its SUBJECTIVE. They can NOT agree on whether a fetus is a human "life" or not. Possibly because it doesnt meet criteria for life.What facts are there that say whether a fetus is a human?what facts?
The fact that abortion kills a human child.
It doesnt meet the criteria for a living organism or human.
Science says so. The fact that if left alone, a human being is born.
Garbage. There isn't one single biologist or scientist who is involved in the human body in any way who will deny that if left alone, a human fetus will become a human being. Not one. They will confirm positively that a human fetus has human DNA. The fact that it cannot live outside the mother for at least 28 weeks is irrelevant.
of course it will become a human being. I was referring to basic biology... I was referring to what i said.science says what? Pretty sure science says its both ways because its SUBJECTIVE. They can NOT agree on whether a fetus is a human "life" or not. Possibly because it doesnt meet criteria for life.What facts are there that say whether a fetus is a human?The fact that abortion kills a human child.
It doesnt meet the criteria for a living organism or human.
Science says so. The fact that if left alone, a human being is born.
Garbage. There isn't one single biologist or scientist who is involved in the human body in any way who will deny that if left alone, a human fetus will become a human being. Not one. They will confirm positively that a human fetus has human DNA. The fact that it cannot live outside the mother for at least 28 weeks is irrelevant.
It doesnt meet the criteria for a living organism or human
Lots of people in the abortion debate are ignorant of basic biology terminology and science. Of course a fetus meets the criteria of life. The fetal stage is simply one stage of many for the human life cycle.science says what? Pretty sure science says its both ways because its SUBJECTIVE. They can NOT agree on whether a fetus is a human "life" or not. Possibly because it doesnt meet criteria for life.What facts are there that say whether a fetus is a human?what facts?Ok fine but the way someone looks at it doesn't change facts and the facts mean there is no argument.
The fact that abortion kills a human child.
It doesnt meet the criteria for a living organism or human.
Science says so. The fact that if left alone, a human being is born.
science says what? Pretty sure science says its both ways because its SUBJECTIVE. They can NOT agree on whether a fetus is a human "life" or not. Possibly because it doesnt meet criteria for life.What facts are there that say whether a fetus is a human?what facts?Ok fine but the way someone looks at it doesn't change facts and the facts mean there is no argument.
The fact that abortion kills a human child.
It doesnt meet the criteria for a living organism or human.
Science says so. The fact that if left alone, a human being is born.
Its not bullshit. Its fact. Look at the definitions of those terms.of course it will become a human being. I was referring to basic biology... I was referring to what i said.science says what? Pretty sure science says its both ways because its SUBJECTIVE. They can NOT agree on whether a fetus is a human "life" or not. Possibly because it doesnt meet criteria for life.What facts are there that say whether a fetus is a human?
It doesnt meet the criteria for a living organism or human.
Science says so. The fact that if left alone, a human being is born.
Garbage. There isn't one single biologist or scientist who is involved in the human body in any way who will deny that if left alone, a human fetus will become a human being. Not one. They will confirm positively that a human fetus has human DNA. The fact that it cannot live outside the mother for at least 28 weeks is irrelevant.
It doesnt meet the criteria for a living organism or human
You should selling that denial BULLSHIT to any of those already in prison for murder for illegally killing a child in the womb.
They would gladly pay you top dollar.
Fair enoughscience says what? Pretty sure science says its both ways because its SUBJECTIVE. They can NOT agree on whether a fetus is a human "life" or not. Possibly because it doesnt meet criteria for life.What facts are there that say whether a fetus is a human?what facts?
The fact that abortion kills a human child.
It doesnt meet the criteria for a living organism or human.
Science says so. The fact that if left alone, a human being is born.
Science can't even come to a consensus on what the definition of life is. Science also believes that life just spontaneously appeared from nonlife, something that can't be observed or duplicated, yet they claim it's science.
