CDZ Abortion laws should be left up to the States

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Abortion laws should be left up to the States

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  1. Chuz Life
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    You seem to be the only one here talking religion..

    So. . .

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    An ounce of prevention is worth any pound of cure. The left doesn't have a problem with that.
     
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    Hey, I am all for prevention. After all, You can't abort a child that doesn't already exist.

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    I'm not playing politics here; it's an academic issue.
    "Proper position"? LOL.
    You can choose your "explanation" of the term "empathy", but it certainly is NOT mainstream, esp in the field of psychology.
    The common definition reflects shared consciousness, i.e., you experience the feelings/thoughts in another "object" by "putting youself in another's shoes".
    A tree has no consciousness.
    A zygote has no consciousness.
    Empathy is not the same as sympathy or compassion.
     
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    Yes, it is. It is from Merriam Webster (hard to get more mainstream than that). Yours is the most narrow definition there is.
     
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    Is there a disorder that causes one to give inanimate objects human emotions?


    The American Scholar: Empathy for Inanimate Objects - Josie Glausiusz

    Of course children in the womb are not inanimate. . . But if we can have empathy for inanimate objects (like a robot or a washing machine) then we certainly can have empathy for a child in the womb.
     
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    Women should have a right to their body anywhere. So NO, abortion shouldn't be left up to the states.
     
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    I can see how a brainwashed religious fundamentalist zealot such as yourself, who gets his philosophical ideas from an ancient worn-out irrelevant scroll written by illiterate middle easterners 3500 years ago (and who probably believes in human resurrections), can't see his own hypocrisy in denying a woman's right to her body all whilst preaching morality. The right to life begins when a baby is out of the womb. Period. Stop adding all this faux-moral religious bullcrap to the "notion of life" in there, it has no credibility.
     
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    Yeah. I am not religious and don't use any religion in any of my arguments. You really should read a little more before you start making such idiotic assumptions as you just did above.

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    OK, let's go with M-W's generalized #1 definition of "empathy":
    "the imaginative projection of a subjective state into an object so that the object appears to be infused with it."

    If you have empathy for a zygote that you don't even know exists, then you must have empathy for bacterium too, right? After all, you said:
    "I can IMAGINE how the zygote feels because I understand that it is trying like hell to survive. It has no sentience, it has no memory, it has nothing but a desire to live. That I can empathize with because I too have a desire to live."

    Your statement also describes bacteria.
    Is your imagination practical? Mainstream? Not in psychology, but maybe in psychiatry.
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    Perhaps we need to get more practical in this abortion discussion.
    There are millions of miserable born babies & children that need empathy & support, and they should have priority over the unborn and gov's interference with a woman's private life. No?
     
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