Abortion... It's Murder.

[I.P.Freely]

Vigilante -

Actually, I have spent quite a lot of time in Syria, so I somehow doubt it is me that needs educating here. Have you EVER been to a SINGLE Muslim country?

No - so then at what point were you planning to get an education yourself?

Why would it matter if you were there or not? the TRUTH is the TRUTH!

You would not know the truth twerp if time stood still.

And this coming from someone I'd PISS on, and the bastard would DRINK IT UP!

I don't want to know what you get up to behind looked doors Vaginismus, perhaps you would like to suck this up.If the woman has difficulty in child birth, one dismembers the embryo within her, limb by limb, because her life take precedence over its life. However, once its head( or its greater part) has emerged it may not be touched, for we do not set aside one life for another.
ohalot 7:6 Gods word Vagi from Gods chosen people

 

[sealybobo]

Hurry hurry, get your abortions right here. Hurry hurry. Step right up before it is too late.

Pope: Priests in Holy Year Can Absolve 'Sin of Abortion'

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

C_Clayton_Jones is an attorney? Good to know, so am I. Tell me Clayton, do you know how the Supreme Court determined that an unborn child is not a legal "person"?

C_Clayton has already told you, you big dummy.

No. Actually I do not see that he did answer him.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Hurry hurry, get your abortions right here. Hurry hurry. Step right up before it is too late.

Pope: Priests in Holy Year Can Absolve 'Sin of Abortion'

Only God can forgive sin, Sealybobo. Man cannot absolve anything.

 

[aris2chat]

Topic failed in the current issues and now they try it again?

Bible allows birth control and abortions.

Pope forgive abortions.

A pope in the 13th century wrong a book on how to birth control and abortions.

Bible there is not value to a child till it is at least a month old.

Fetus has not soul till after the first trimester

It is not murder, not in the first trimester, not by law, not the bible.

When are people going to stop trying to rewrite the bible to fit their twisted morality and control others.

The woman is the only one to decide what happens to her body. She has to decide when to become a mother. No one should have a right to force her.

There are many medical reason to terminate a pregnancy in the later trimesters. Most are to save the woman's life.

Abortion is not murder, not by law and not by the bible.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Vigilante -

Actually, I have spent quite a lot of time in Syria, so I somehow doubt it is me that needs educating here. Have you EVER been to a SINGLE Muslim country?

No - so then at what point were you planning to get an education yourself?

Why would it matter if you were there or not? the TRUTH is the TRUTH!

You would not know the truth twerp if time stood still.

And this coming from someone I'd PISS on, and the bastard would DRINK IT UP!

Pretty disgusting, Vig! Congratulations! You have finally won a spot on my ignore list as one of the most immature and vile posters on the board!

 

[Vigilante]

Vigilante -

Actually, I have spent quite a lot of time in Syria, so I somehow doubt it is me that needs educating here. Have you EVER been to a SINGLE Muslim country?

No - so then at what point were you planning to get an education yourself?

Why would it matter if you were there or not? the TRUTH is the TRUTH!

You would not know the truth twerp if time stood still.

And this coming from someone I'd PISS on, and the bastard would DRINK IT UP!

Pretty disgusting, Vig! Congratulations! You have finally won a spot on my ignore list as one of the most immature and vile posters on the board!

Another badge of honor from a baby killer!

 

[Campbell]

You're full of shit!!!
This is what a 12 week fetus looks like:

Recognize this? Is It A Baby Too??

You people make my ass hole crave swamp water!!

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

You're full of shit!!!
This is what a 12 week fetus looks like:

Recognize this? Is It A Baby Too??

You people make my ass hole crave swamp water!!

So, you're an imbecile? Or are you just trying to make other's believe that you're an imbecile?

I mean according to your reasoning, this is a house in its earliest stages of development:

THIS, is the precursor material that is essential to the process of that same house:

Both are true and correct... neither are precise examples of a completed house, yet neither can be removed from the sound equation defining that house AND NEITHER are relevant to the fact that a FETUS; which is to say:

"The young while in the womb or egg" (tending to mean vaguely the human embryo in the later stage of development), from Latin fetus (often, incorrectly, foetus) "the bearing or hatching of young, a bringing forth," from Latin base *fe- "to generate, bear," also "to suck, suckle" (see fecund).

In Latin, fetus sometimes was transferred figuratively to the newborn creature itself, or used in a sense of "offspring, brood" (as in Horace's "Germania quos horrida parturit Fetus"), but this was not the basic meaning. It also was used of plants, in the sense of "fruit, produce, shoot," and figuratively as "growth, production.", IS DISTINCT AND SEPARATE HUMAN LIFE, WHICH BEARS IT'S OWN INDIVIDUAL RIGHT TO THAT LIFE.

 

[onefour1]

 

[aris2chat]

misleading propaganda. They are not sayng what many thing they are saying
The videos are worthless as evidence of crime by PP

 

[Synthaholic]

 

[emilynghiem]

Well, there was a day when some people owned slaves, and other people objected to that, saying it was wrong.

And the people who owned slaves said, "Well, you're entitled to your opinion, but it's none of YOUR BUSINESS because these slaves are MY PROPERTY."

And abortion is the same as that, and the same kind of people are involved, those who make it their business to do evil, and those who butt into other people's business to stop a wrong.

Dear Blackrook
Yes and no.

The common factor here would be if it were argued
"Is this federal jurisdiction or states' rights to pass laws on
[slavery or abortion]"

In that case the common factor is "does federal govt have the
right to intervene and tell states what to do"

In the case of slavery, an AMENDMENT had to be passed outlawing slavery as 'involuntary servitude'; in the case of abortion, just the federal govt striking down bans as unconstitutional is not the same as the states passing laws on abortion, which they still continue to rewrite and revise to find a constitutional way to regulate it.

If you say the issue of slavery is equally faith based as the issue of abortion,
such as saying does the owner have property rights that the person as property does not have, or does the woman have privacy rights or right to choose that the unborn child does not have,
the difference is in the case of slavery the person acting as property CAN SPEAK AND REPRESENT
THEMSELVES AS A PERSON AND THUS PROVE THAT THIS PERSON DOES NOT CONSENT.

So that doesn't count as faith based, but recognized as a person under law.

Since the unborn child cannot be proven to have conscious awareness or consent
as the born person, this principle that the human will begins at conception remains faith based.

Blackrook even if it is TRUE, this cannot be proven any more than you can prove when the
universe began because we cannot see or hear it, we cannot prove when the soul of the person
becomes manifest in the physical body, it is on a SPIRITUAL level that this is occurring.

And it is not the job of govt to determine and define such a SPIRITUAL process that remains faith based.

What I will say, Blackrook, is that even though this remains FAITH BASED,
that FAITH that BELIEF that life begins at conception IS protected under Free Exercise of Religion,
and as a Creed, people of this Belief cannot be Discriminated against in Govt policy.

So I will tell you the same thing as I say about people who hold LGBT beliefs to be truth:
those beliefs are also FAITH based, and are protected under Religious Freedom,
but neither beliefs about LGBT orientation/identity nor beliefs that human will begins at conception
can be established NOR PROHIBITED by govt.

And this is not the same as slavery where those people subject to slavery
can represent their own consent and prove their consent, due process and and liberty is violated.

The real issue BTW of why abortion laws never get anywhere:
As long as the govt can only intervene after pregnancy has already occurred, any such laws regulating
abortion at that point AFFECT WOMEN MORE THAN MEN WHO ARE NOT EQUALLY LEGALLY HELD RESPONSIBLE.

This is a SEPARATE complication with laws apart totally from whether the baby has rights, human will
begins at conception, whether abortion is murder etc. Because all that can be unlawful
AND LAWS POLICING ABORTION AFTER THE POINT OF PREGNANCY STILL AFFECT WOMEN MORE THAN MEN.

So if you don't address that problem with the laws,
even if all the other points are true that abortion is murder and human will begins at conception and the
unborn baby has rights being violated aren't going to change
the problem with laws that regulate and punish the women more than the men who
are equally responsible for the decision to have sex, if not the men being MORE responsible in the
case of rape, incest, coercion or other abuse where the woman didn't consent to sex or to get pregnant but were forced.

So until you address THAT problem with the laws
Blackrook, we can't even GET to the other issues no matter how wrong these problems are!

If you are going to compare right to life beliefs with something on the left,
I'd compare it to the right to health care, where the left IS saying it is more
important to save lives "by govt regulating right to health care" than it is to respect free choice. That is a more fair comparison.

 

[sealybobo]

Why didn't Republicans ban the procedure when they controlled all three branches of government?

If Trump, McConnell and Ryan didn't think abortion was murder in 2017, then that means the Republican party doesn't believe abortion is murder. If they do believe it then they are responsible for all those murders. Even Trump admitted it's his fault in a 2013 tweet

Donald J. Trump‏ Verified account @realDonaldTrump
Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible.

11:01 AM - 8 Nov 2013

So is Trump, McConnell and Ryan going to hell?

 

[S.J.]

So is Trump, McConnell and Ryan going to hell?

I don't know, is they?

 

[LittleNipper]

So is Trump, McConnell and Ryan going to hell?

I don't know, is they?

No one goes to hell for sinning but entirely for rejecting Jesus as one's ONLY LORD and SAVIOR.

 

[LilOlLady]

Casa De Vida
Young girls who have nothing are keeping their babies when selfish women are killing theirs.

 

[LilOlLady]

So is Trump, McConnell and Ryan going to hell?

I don't know, is they?

No one goes to hell for sinning but entirely for rejecting Jesus as one's ONLY LORD and SAVIOR.

"The wages of sin is death" not burning forever in hell. When you die you have been acquitted of your sins. GOD does not use Double Jeopardy.