A WWII history lesson

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    Remember During WWII When FDR Praised Japanese Enemy's Religion? - Right Wing News (Conservative News and Views)

    August 22, 2009

    Remember During WWII When FDR Praised Japanese Enemy's Religion?

    It was after Pearl Harbor, after Midway, after many thousands of our American G.I.'s were killed in desperate battles with the Shintoist Japanese when President Franklin D. Roosevelt went on the radio and issued his heartfelt praise for Japan's Shinto religion.

    To his American audience, in his celebratory message for Japan's Shinto religious practices, President Roosevelt issued the following line:

    "These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Shinto's role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings."

    The outrage in America wad deafening. No one could deny that there were millions of Shintoists that never raised a finger against the U.S., but the leaders of the war effort were all Shintoists and their religious leaders used the creed as a basis to attack us. Worse, as Americans were dying at the hands of Shintoists, the anger in the nation was...

    Well, you know that this never happened. Of course President Roosevelt was never heard praising our enemy during that vicious war with Japan's Shintoist fanatics. But that doesn't mean that this whole thing is fantasy, either, because we did have a president that issued a celebratory message to our enemy while American soldiers were engaged in daily battle with representatives of religious fanatics as deadly as the Shintoists of WWII.
    ... or rather we do have such a president.

    That's right he's in office right now. President Obama issued such a celebratory statement for the religion of our enemy just this week with a Ramadan statement. And here is the actual line from above as issued by the White House today.

    "These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam's role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.

    "Islam's role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings"? Is this pandering fool kidding? As the loudest practitioners of Islam infest the whole of the world cutting off people's heads, stoning women who've been raped, hanging homosexuals, spending millions of dollars world wide to sponsor terrorism, bombing people into oblivion and sponsoring riots to force their ideological desires on democratic societies one has to wonder when Islam is going to start "advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings"?

    Islam is the single most violent, oppressive, and dangerous religion currently in practice in the world today, yet President Obama is pandering to this rabble that has vocally called for all our deaths or forcible conversion to Islam?

    Is Islam beyond redemption? With an internal reformation, it likely isn't. But no one of any prominence has made a move toward any such reformation. As it stands right now, there is little in Islam worth recommending much less praising.

    It is a disgrace that as our soldiers are facing mortal danger from Islamists in many spots on the globe the president is celebrating the ideology that is used to justify our soldier's deaths, not to mention the religion that was used to justify the most outrageous attack on American civilians in our history, 9/11.

    Roosevelt was a bad enough president. His actions led to the socialist mess we are living with today and his New Deal led to the lengthening of The Great Depression by up to seven years, but he was at least smart enough not to praise our enemy in the midst of a war with them.

    Would that Obama were as smart.

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    "of the Government, by the Government, for the Government".
    We are now slaves to A GREEDY government.
     
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    Come now, Islam is a religion of peace. Well maybe pieces is more correct. After all it advocates such peaceful practices as forced conversion, murder of anyone that converts FROM Islam to another religion, stoning of women for not wearing head to toe sheets or going out in public without a male to escort them. Such American principles as murdering all homosexuals, imprisoning or stoning any woman dumb enough to let herself be raped, and who can forget the oh so peaceful practice of beheading captured soldiers and civilians?

    They support other peaceful ideas too, like world wide terrorism, murder of innocent women and children for political reasons, and they support freedom of the press, you remember as long as it does not print any stories about the religion or its founder, any stories about the problems in the religion and BY GOD who can blame them for rioting when cartoons are made of their religions founder?

    They believe in the right to a Democratic Government, as long as the Mullahs actually rule, make all laws, enforce all laws and who can forget their tolerant position on freedom of religion?

    Yup a tolerant peaceful religion of wise men.
     
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    "It was on USMB that a right wing reactionary poster posted an extract from a right wing reactionary blog that was relevant to a point, cogently argued and devastating in its impact. Well you know this never happened."

    Nor will it happen :lol:
     
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    Go peddle your religious prejudices someplace else, Pilgrim.
     
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    And what religions did the Germans of WW2 practice? What did Hitler publicaly call his religion? What was the religion of the Spanish Inquisition?

    Only a fool would start a thread like this. Religions are composed of people, and most peoples have at one time or another committed atrocities against their own, or their neighbors.
     
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    Christianity as a religion of Peace.

    During WWII both Germany and Italy were Christian nations and their populations were overwhelmly Christian.

    Both countries invaded and terrorized most of Europe and parts of N. Africia.

    These Christian nations basically had the backing of the church to murder and torture innocent men, women, and childtrn as they pleased.

    Yet I never heard of President Roosevelt condemning Christianity, or the church, or christian people.

    I wonder why that was ?
     
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    Only the truly irreligious would support such a statement as made by Soaring and seconded by Retired. To post such a thing means that the writer and supporter are ignorant, or mentally feeble, or morally malignant with the facts and interpretation, or simply all three. What an incredibly poor expression of critical thinking skills by these two whatever you call'ems.
     
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    I doubt that your soldiers would thank you for using their name to support your bigoted agenda. As a serving soldier myself, I spit on your misguided rhetoric. You, sir, are part of the problem we face...not the solution.

    Yes, there are Islamic extremists, but they are the minority. But then, I see just as many religious extremists residing in your country. Christian fundamentalists, every bit as despicable and dangerous as Islamic fundamentalists. And then there's extremists like you.

    Tell me, what are you doing about fighting terrorism, or do you just crawl out from under your rock to post hate speech on the Internet?
     
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    Sunni, you tell the same lies over and over again. You bring nothing to this forum. You should be banned.
     
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    Oh the deafining hypocrisy. If you turn your attention to your OWN religion you will find it is BATHED in blood and even TODAY the most extreme of your fellow practitioners engage in TERRORISM of abortion providers and others who do not share their extreme views of the world. Get off your soap box get down on your knees and ask God to teach you the TRUE meaning of your religion.
     

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