A very special Jihad for EID: Happy EID to all posters

[kvetch]

Today is the Muslim festival of EID...happy EID to you all, jewish muslim or whatever

Today the sacrifice of the son of our common father Abraham / Ibrahim is venerated.

You all know the sons name was isaac-ishmael and it happened both simultaneously on the jewish temple mount moriah and in mecca.

What a bloody miracle that is!

The whole point of this story is that god doesn't want any killing done of anyone's sons.

Can we agree on that???

However it's not a very good day for sheep is it?

The Muslims are genocidal today against sheep which they feast on.

I'm new here but I have noticed 2 flocks of sheep on this forum; the zionist sheep and the islamo sheep.

Not to be confused with the black sheeps O- BAA Maaa and NO-Baaa Maa

They use the same bleating insults baa baa baa fascist bla bla bla; real sheep are more intelligent, really.

So its time for a new Jihad on behalf of all the sheeps.

NO MORE SLITTING SHEEPS THROATS IN THE NAME OF HASHEM OR ALLAH

If you must eat sheep, use the name of your God but then stun them and be humane and give thanx for their sacrifice to us..

Lets make Kosher humanely Kosher and do away with the baa baa baa barbaric shechita

And eat Humanely Halal. Halal DOES allow stunning unlike Kosher.

Otherwise this God of all creatures will surely feel like tickling the throats of his so called followers abusing his sheepy creatures in his name.

Any of you sheep for Jihad????

And a Jihad to stop bleating sterile baa baaa fascist bleats, at least for EID

The truce...the Hudna of the sheep.....................Jihad

Here is some very special EID Music to celebrate to:

BBC - Music - Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan

cut and paste and enjoy...and don't over eat!!!

shalom and salaam to all

WARNING TO ALL: ANYONE FIGHTING ON THIS THREAD ABOUT WHICH SON WAS TO BE SACRIFICED AND WHERE WILL BE THE NEXT TO BE SACRIFICED AND FED TO ISLAMO JEWISH FASCIST PIGS FOR BREAKFAST AND NO MERCY WILL BE SHOWN

 

[irosie91]

try again Kvetch-----you forget-----I have been so well acquainted with muslims -----that I actually witnessed their slaughters-------It is DISGUSTING-----anyone can do it -----without any training at all-------someone holds the animal and an untrained person SAWS AWAY AT THE NECK-----------Kosher slaughter is elegant---ONE SWIFT STROKE to the neurvascular bundle--------anyone who had ever seen a CAROTIC OCCLUSION or ---even a ----MIDDLE CEREBRAL ARTERY OCCLUSION understands that kosher slaughter is far superior to halal slaughter ---EVEN WITH STUNNING

stunning itself is painful-----ask any person who had undergone electro-schock treatment IT IS LIKE BEING SHOT OUT OF A CANNON

to understand the issue-----an understanding of neurophysiology helps which YOU, Kvetch---clearly to not have


Halal slaughter is disgusting-----a muslim child of six can shoot and wound an animal------and then later on simply SAW AT THE NECK OF THE ANIMAL with a dull knife and say 'bismallah" and the animal is HALAL

 

[Roudy]

Today is the Muslim festival of EID...happy EID to you all, jewish muslim or whatever

Today the sacrifice of the son of our common father Abraham / Ibrahim is venerated.

You all know the sons name was isaac-ishmael and it happened both simultaneously on the jewish temple mount moriah and in mecca.

What a bloody miracle that is!

The whole point of this story is that god doesn't want any killing done of anyone's sons.

Can we agree on that???

However it's not a very good day for sheep is it?

The Muslims are genocidal today against sheep which they feast on.

I'm new here but I have noticed 2 flocks of sheep on this forum; the zionist sheep and the islamo sheep.

Not to be confused with the black sheeps O- BAA Maaa and NO-Baaa Maa

They use the same bleating insults baa baa baa fascist bla bla bla; real sheep are more intelligent, really.

So its time for a new Jihad on behalf of all the sheeps.

NO MORE SLITTING SHEEPS THROATS IN THE NAME OF HASHEM OR ALLAH

If you must eat sheep, use the name of your God but then stun them and be humane and give thanx for their sacrifice to us..

Lets make Kosher humanely Kosher and do away with the baa baa baa barbaric shechita

And eat Humanely Halal. Halal DOES allow stunning unlike Kosher.

Otherwise this God of all creatures will surely feel like tickling the throats of his so called followers abusing his sheepy creatures in his name.

Any of you sheep for Jihad????

And a Jihad to stop bleating sterile baa baaa fascist bleats, at least for EID

The truce...the Hudna of the sheep.....................Jihad

Here is some very special EID Music to celebrate to:

BBC - Music - Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan

cut and paste and enjoy...and don't over eat!!!

shalom and salaam to all

WARNING TO ALL: ANYONE FIGHTING ON THIS THREAD ABOUT WHICH SON WAS TO BE SACRIFICED AND WHERE WILL BE THE NEXT TO BE SACRIFICED AND FED TO ISLAMO JEWISH FASCIST PIGS FOR BREAKFAST AND NO MERCY WILL BE SHOWN

What are you doing now skit? Wishing Jews happy Eid? Ha ha ha. That's like Wishing Muslims Happy Passover. And Yes, Abraham did try to sacrifice Issac, NOT Ishmael. That illiterate terrorist prophet of theirs got it all wrong. Open up the OT see what it says for yourself. It also calls Ishmael a wild unruly jackass, who's descendants will be at war with all nations. Now if Mohammad who came thousands of years later than the "almost sacrifice" of ISSAC somehow figured out that he's related to Ishmael (Mohammad was illiterate but he knew an amazing Saudi Arabian DNA testing company), then let them have it. Of course we all know what would happen to the head of anybody that would have dared tell Mohammad he's not related to Ishmael. LOL

 

[Roudy]

try again Kvetch-----you forget-----I have been so well acquainted with muslims -----that I actually witnessed their slaughters-------It is DISGUSTING-----anyone can do it -----without any training at all-------someone holds the animal and an untrained person SAWS AWAY AT THE NECK-----------Kosher slaughter is elegant---ONE SWIFT STROKE to the neurvascular bundle--------anyone who had ever seen a CAROTIC OCCLUSION or ---even a ----MIDDLE CEREBRAL ARTERY OCCLUSION understands that kosher slaughter is far superior to halal slaughter ---EVEN WITH STUNNING

stunning itself is painful-----ask any person who had undergone electro-schock treatment IT IS LIKE BEING SHOT OUT OF A CANNON

to understand the issue-----an understanding of neurophysiology helps which YOU, Kvetch---clearly to not have


Halal slaughter is disgusting-----a muslim child of six can shoot and wound an animal------and then later on simply SAW AT THE NECK OF THE ANIMAL with a dull knife and say 'bismallah" and the animal is HALAL

They slaughter people the same way they slaughter sheep, irose.

 

[irosie91]

yes roudy-----tinnie and 'kvetch' enjoy that too. For the record-----for meat to be hallal-----an animal can be WOUNDED as in a clutch trap that breaks the foot------or even SHOT and left to suffer for hours------before some kid comes and saws at its neck and says "bismallah" ----then it is ok Such a slaughter does not come remotely close to being kosher During the EID---things dull knives are put in the hands of children and they then SAW at the necks of innocent screaming lambs

 

[kvetch]

try again Kvetch-----you forget-----I have been so well acquainted with muslims -----that I actually witnessed their slaughters-------It is DISGUSTING-----anyone can do it -----without any training at all-------someone holds the animal and an untrained person SAWS AWAY AT THE NECK-----------Kosher slaughter is elegant---ONE SWIFT STROKE to the neurvascular bundle--------anyone who had ever seen a CAROTIC OCCLUSION or ---even a ----MIDDLE CEREBRAL ARTERY OCCLUSION understands that kosher slaughter is far superior to halal slaughter ---EVEN WITH STUNNING

stunning itself is painful-----ask any person who had undergone electro-schock treatment IT IS LIKE BEING SHOT OUT OF A CANNON

to understand the issue-----an understanding of neurophysiology helps which YOU, Kvetch---clearly to not have


Halal slaughter is disgusting-----a muslim child of six can shoot and wound an animal------and then later on simply SAW AT THE NECK OF THE ANIMAL with a dull knife and say 'bismallah" and the animal is HALAL

i take you at your word, dear

you know and I do NOT

 

[kvetch]

Today is the Muslim festival of EID...happy EID to you all, jewish muslim or whatever

Today the sacrifice of the son of our common father Abraham / Ibrahim is venerated.

You all know the sons name was isaac-ishmael and it happened both simultaneously on the jewish temple mount moriah and in mecca.

What a bloody miracle that is!

The whole point of this story is that god doesn't want any killing done of anyone's sons.

Can we agree on that???

However it's not a very good day for sheep is it?

The Muslims are genocidal today against sheep which they feast on.

I'm new here but I have noticed 2 flocks of sheep on this forum; the zionist sheep and the islamo sheep.

Not to be confused with the black sheeps O- BAA Maaa and NO-Baaa Maa

They use the same bleating insults baa baa baa fascist bla bla bla; real sheep are more intelligent, really.

So its time for a new Jihad on behalf of all the sheeps.

NO MORE SLITTING SHEEPS THROATS IN THE NAME OF HASHEM OR ALLAH

If you must eat sheep, use the name of your God but then stun them and be humane and give thanx for their sacrifice to us..

Lets make Kosher humanely Kosher and do away with the baa baa baa barbaric shechita

And eat Humanely Halal. Halal DOES allow stunning unlike Kosher.

Otherwise this God of all creatures will surely feel like tickling the throats of his so called followers abusing his sheepy creatures in his name.

Any of you sheep for Jihad????

And a Jihad to stop bleating sterile baa baaa fascist bleats, at least for EID

The truce...the Hudna of the sheep.....................Jihad

Here is some very special EID Music to celebrate to:

BBC - Music - Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan

cut and paste and enjoy...and don't over eat!!!

shalom and salaam to all

WARNING TO ALL: ANYONE FIGHTING ON THIS THREAD ABOUT WHICH SON WAS TO BE SACRIFICED AND WHERE WILL BE THE NEXT TO BE SACRIFICED AND FED TO ISLAMO JEWISH FASCIST PIGS FOR BREAKFAST AND NO MERCY WILL BE SHOWN

What are you doing now skit? Wishing Jews happy Eid? Ha ha ha. That's like Wishing Muslims Happy Passover. And Yes, Abraham did try to sacrifice Issac, NOT Ishmael. That illiterate terrorist prophet of theirs got it all wrong. Open up the OT see what it says for yourself. It also calls Ishmael a wild unruly jackass, who's descendants will be at war with all nations. Now if Mohammad who came thousands of years later than the "almost sacrifice" of ISSAC somehow figured out that he's related to Ishmael (Mohammad was illiterate but he knew an amazing Saudi Arabian DNA testing company), then let them have it. Of course we all know what would happen to the head of anybody that would have dared tell Mohammad he's not related to Ishmael. LOL

do you think these are historical events and real characters?

or just legends?

the DNA of ordinary israelis and arabs says there's a link, as does the language

i saw a great documentary putting very early islam thru a critical historical analysis and he said it wasn't even a separate religion until nearly 100 years after Mo's death

if you are interested:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm8xKh8eQqU&feature=related]Islam: The Untold Story - Islam: The Untold Story - YouTube[/ame]

maybe you know a lot already; I did not and found it very interestin...he aint biased, I would say

I LOVE YOUR HUMOUR AND SHARP WIT!!!

 

[Roudy]

Today is the Muslim festival of EID...happy EID to you all, jewish muslim or whatever

Today the sacrifice of the son of our common father Abraham / Ibrahim is venerated.

You all know the sons name was isaac-ishmael and it happened both simultaneously on the jewish temple mount moriah and in mecca.

What a bloody miracle that is!

The whole point of this story is that god doesn't want any killing done of anyone's sons.

Can we agree on that???

However it's not a very good day for sheep is it?

The Muslims are genocidal today against sheep which they feast on.

I'm new here but I have noticed 2 flocks of sheep on this forum; the zionist sheep and the islamo sheep.

Not to be confused with the black sheeps O- BAA Maaa and NO-Baaa Maa

They use the same bleating insults baa baa baa fascist bla bla bla; real sheep are more intelligent, really.

So its time for a new Jihad on behalf of all the sheeps.

NO MORE SLITTING SHEEPS THROATS IN THE NAME OF HASHEM OR ALLAH

If you must eat sheep, use the name of your God but then stun them and be humane and give thanx for their sacrifice to us..

Lets make Kosher humanely Kosher and do away with the baa baa baa barbaric shechita

And eat Humanely Halal. Halal DOES allow stunning unlike Kosher.

Otherwise this God of all creatures will surely feel like tickling the throats of his so called followers abusing his sheepy creatures in his name.

Any of you sheep for Jihad????

And a Jihad to stop bleating sterile baa baaa fascist bleats, at least for EID

The truce...the Hudna of the sheep.....................Jihad

Here is some very special EID Music to celebrate to:

BBC - Music - Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan

cut and paste and enjoy...and don't over eat!!!

shalom and salaam to all

WARNING TO ALL: ANYONE FIGHTING ON THIS THREAD ABOUT WHICH SON WAS TO BE SACRIFICED AND WHERE WILL BE THE NEXT TO BE SACRIFICED AND FED TO ISLAMO JEWISH FASCIST PIGS FOR BREAKFAST AND NO MERCY WILL BE SHOWN

What are you doing now skit? Wishing Jews happy Eid? Ha ha ha. That's like Wishing Muslims Happy Passover. And Yes, Abraham did try to sacrifice Issac, NOT Ishmael. That illiterate terrorist prophet of theirs got it all wrong. Open up the OT see what it says for yourself. It also calls Ishmael a wild unruly jackass, who's descendants will be at war with all nations. Now if Mohammad who came thousands of years later than the "almost sacrifice" of ISSAC somehow figured out that he's related to Ishmael (Mohammad was illiterate but he knew an amazing Saudi Arabian DNA testing company), then let them have it. Of course we all know what would happen to the head of anybody that would have dared tell Mohammad he's not related to Ishmael. LOL

do you think these are historical events and real characters?

or just legends?

the DNA of ordinary israelis and arabs says there's a link, as does the language

i saw a great documentary putting very early islam thru a critical historical analysis and he said it wasn't even a separate religion until nearly 100 years after Mo's death

if you are interested:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm8xKh8eQqU&feature=related]Islam: The Untold Story - Islam: The Untold Story - YouTube[/ame]

maybe you know a lot already; I did not and found it very interestin...he aint biased, I would say

I LOVE YOUR HUMOUR AND SHARP WIT!!!

Actually there have been many studies that show that Jews from all over the world have a common "Cohen" gene that Arabs and no other ethnicity have. In other words they are the real deal. As far as historic "Islamic achievements", if you consider all the nations and civilizations Muslims invaded and then took credit for their past, when they weren't even Muslim then, well that's quite a hoax.

But that aside what have Muslims contributed to humanity and modern civilization in the 20th and 21st century other than of course hatred, intolerance, persecution, corruption, mayhem, terror, and oppression? They sure "enjoy" modern medicine, technology, communication, entertainment, transportation, air travel, etc. that those "infidels" have brought, but from the other side of the mouth, they are labeled as "evil" and "the great satan" blah blah blah. They seem to want to be stuck in the 7th century, while at the same time using Western discoveries and inventions.

 

[irosie91]

there is lots of DNA evidence that both the people of the middle east in the vicinity of palestine and jews------hailed from the same area of the world------way back then So far there is no evidence at all that MUHUMMAD was in any way related to Abraham-------of course there would be some common DNA sites because geographically they were close In order to make such determinations----the way to go would be DNA STUDIES OF THE BEDOUIN OF THE ARABIAN DESERT IN ARABIA As far as I know---no such studies have been done Of course the burial site of the rapist is KNOWN----so ---why not get a sample?

 

[there4eyeM]

Everyone alive today, according to the statistics of genetics, is related to everyone who was alive in the seventh century. So, we ALL are related to Mohammed.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Everyone alive today, according to the statistics of genetics, is related to everyone who was alive in the seventh century. So, we ALL are related to Mohammed.

Not me!

 

[irosie91]

Everyone alive today, according to the statistics of genetics, is related to everyone who was alive in the seventh century. So, we ALL are related to Mohammed.

A true statement-----far more refined determinations can be made as to just how CLOSELY people are related to the point that migration patterns can be determined

and something like "FAMILY TREE" can be traced genetically

 

[there4eyeM]

Everyone alive today, according to the statistics of genetics, is related to everyone who was alive in the seventh century. So, we ALL are related to Mohammed.

Not me!

Surely, you mean, "Not I!"

[U]Ahhs jus' foolin' withchas!"[/U]

 

[irosie91]

Everyone alive today, according to the statistics of genetics, is related to everyone who was alive in the seventh century. So, we ALL are related to Mohammed.

Not me!

Surely, you mean, "Not I!"

how about----"SUCH A RELATIONSHIP DOES NOT AFFLICT ME" ???

 

[SAYIT]

try again Kvetch-----you forget-----I have been so well acquainted with muslims -----that I actually witnessed their slaughters-------It is DISGUSTING-----anyone can do it -----without any training at all-------someone holds the animal and an untrained person SAWS AWAY AT THE NECK-----------Kosher slaughter is elegant---ONE SWIFT STROKE to the neurvascular bundle--------anyone who had ever seen a CAROTIC OCCLUSION or ---even a ----MIDDLE CEREBRAL ARTERY OCCLUSION understands that kosher slaughter is far superior to halal slaughter ---EVEN WITH STUNNING

stunning itself is painful-----ask any person who had undergone electro-schock treatment IT IS LIKE BEING SHOT OUT OF A CANNON

to understand the issue-----an understanding of neurophysiology helps which YOU, Kvetch---clearly to not have


Halal slaughter is disgusting-----a muslim child of six can shoot and wound an animal------and then later on simply SAW AT THE NECK OF THE ANIMAL with a dull knife and say 'bismallah" and the animal is HALAL

Isn't that how they did Dan Pearl? With a saw?

 

[kvetch]

there is lots of DNA evidence that both the people of the middle east in the vicinity of palestine and jews------hailed from the same area of the world------way back then So far there is no evidence at all that MUHUMMAD was in any way related to Abraham-------of course there would be some common DNA sites because geographically they were close In order to make such determinations----the way to go would be DNA STUDIES OF THE BEDOUIN OF THE ARABIAN DESERT IN ARABIA As far as I know---no such studies have been done Of course the burial site of the rapist is KNOWN----so ---why not get a sample?

if he was as you claim, there would be a whole lot of his DNA around but best of luck tryin to get a DNA sample!

worth a few tandooris if you succeed

 

[kvetch]

Everyone alive today, according to the statistics of genetics, is related to everyone who was alive in the seventh century. So, we ALL are related to Mohammed.

A true statement-----far more refined determinations can be made as to just how CLOSELY people are related to the point that migration patterns can be determined

and something like "FAMILY TREE" can be traced genetically

quite true, from the male line, not the female so it can be misleading when you have armies of rapists around which they all were

One question to those who believe in abraham, ishmael, etc as historical people as in the Torah

Genes have been shown to deteriorate seriously with age.

This means Abe and Sarah's 90 year old DNA (which is impossible anyway) would be pretty suss but Hagar's young DNA much better

and Arab genes better than Jewish ones..

Whole thing makes the virgin birth look factual by comparison.

 

[kvetch]

Roudy says

Actually there have been many studies that show that Jews from all over the world have a common "Cohen" gene that Arabs and no other ethnicity have. In other words they are the real deal.

As far as historic "Islamic achievements", if you consider all the nations and civilizations Muslims invaded and then took credit for their past, when they weren't even Muslim then, well that's quite a hoax.

But that aside what have Muslims contributed to humanity and modern civilization in the 20th and 21st century other than of course hatred, intolerance, persecution, corruption, mayhem, terror, and oppression? They sure "enjoy" modern medicine, technology, communication, entertainment, transportation, air travel, etc. that those "infidels" have brought, but from the other side of the mouth, they are labeled as "evil" and "the great satan" blah blah blah. They seem to want to be stuck in the 7th century, while at the same time using Western discoveries and inventions."


as to cohens, i understand that to be priestly caste x-chromosome male DNA which mutates 10 times faster than the female and was found even among lemba dark black south africans who claimed to be jewish and israel wouldn't believe them but when tested the lembas were right

does this mean cohens were better behaved than catholic priests? Looks like it!

I have them in my mums mums side so not eligible...

As for muslim achievements,

i disagree about it being a hoax; lots of the real top deal scientists were arab and muslim

i agree they are very short now

in israel where Arab and Jewish cultures compete, the Arab music, food, football and beauty contestants seem to win quite a bit.

i would say muslim music and poetry are among the best.in the world ..not a lot but better than you might think. i like good belly dancers.

In Pakistan they have something a bit like klezmer called qawali which I love and so do Hindus whose sacred music is boring

and india's and arguably the world's best best musician and composer A R Rahman is muslim...converted from hinduism as a teenager

but you insist on structuring the world to make muzzies down and out (with a lot of help from them!)

even if they had produced a million einsteins, you would find some way of invalidating them, would you not??
__________________

 

[Roudy]

Roudy says

Actually there have been many studies that show that Jews from all over the world have a common "Cohen" gene that Arabs and no other ethnicity have. In other words they are the real deal.

As far as historic "Islamic achievements", if you consider all the nations and civilizations Muslims invaded and then took credit for their past, when they weren't even Muslim then, well that's quite a hoax.

But that aside what have Muslims contributed to humanity and modern civilization in the 20th and 21st century other than of course hatred, intolerance, persecution, corruption, mayhem, terror, and oppression? They sure "enjoy" modern medicine, technology, communication, entertainment, transportation, air travel, etc. that those "infidels" have brought, but from the other side of the mouth, they are labeled as "evil" and "the great satan" blah blah blah. They seem to want to be stuck in the 7th century, while at the same time using Western discoveries and inventions."


as to cohens, i understand that to be priestly caste x-chromosome male DNA which mutates 10 times faster than the female and was found even among lemba dark black south africans who claimed to be jewish and israel wouldn't believe them but when tested the lembas were right

does this mean cohens were better behaved than catholic priests? Looks like it!

I have them in my mums mums side so not eligible...

As for muslim achievements,

i disagree about it being a hoax; lots of the real top deal scientists were arab and muslim

i agree they are very short now

in israel where Arab and Jewish cultures compete, the Arab music, food, football and beauty contestants seem to win quite a bit.

i would say muslim music and poetry are among the best.in the world ..not a lot but better than you might think. i like good belly dancers.

In Pakistan they have something a bit like klezmer called qawali which I love and so do Hindus whose sacred music is boring

and india's and arguably the world's best best musician and composer A R Rahman is muslim...converted from hinduism as a teenager

but you insist on structuring the world to make muzzies down and out (with a lot of help from them!)

even if they had produced a million einsteins, you would find some way of invalidating them, would you not??
__________________

It wasn't the "Islamic faith" that led to these achievements, Islam didnt bring with it anything other than subjugation, but rather it was the culture and civilizations of the people's both before and after being invaded by Muslims. For example, Iran produced some great poets, thinkers, scientists, and writers, both before and after the Arab Islamic invasion, however non of it had anything to do with what Islam brought. Yet those same poets and scientists are labeled as "Islamic acheivements".

That aside you still haven't shown any real achievements or contributions brought by Muslims in the 20th and 21st century. Other than of course everything that is bad and evil. And that has everything to do with the culture that Islam brings with it.

 

[kvetch]

Roudy says

Actually there have been many studies that show that Jews from all over the world have a common "Cohen" gene that Arabs and no other ethnicity have. In other words they are the real deal.

As far as historic "Islamic achievements", if you consider all the nations and civilizations Muslims invaded and then took credit for their past, when they weren't even Muslim then, well that's quite a hoax.

But that aside what have Muslims contributed to humanity and modern civilization in the 20th and 21st century other than of course hatred, intolerance, persecution, corruption, mayhem, terror, and oppression? They sure "enjoy" modern medicine, technology, communication, entertainment, transportation, air travel, etc. that those "infidels" have brought, but from the other side of the mouth, they are labeled as "evil" and "the great satan" blah blah blah. They seem to want to be stuck in the 7th century, while at the same time using Western discoveries and inventions."


as to cohens, i understand that to be priestly caste x-chromosome male DNA which mutates 10 times faster than the female and was found even among lemba dark black south africans who claimed to be jewish and israel wouldn't believe them but when tested the lembas were right

does this mean cohens were better behaved than catholic priests? Looks like it!

I have them in my mums mums side so not eligible...

As for muslim achievements,

i disagree about it being a hoax; lots of the real top deal scientists were arab and muslim

i agree they are very short now

in israel where Arab and Jewish cultures compete, the Arab music, food, football and beauty contestants seem to win quite a bit.

i would say muslim music and poetry are among the best.in the world ..not a lot but better than you might think. i like good belly dancers.

In Pakistan they have something a bit like klezmer called qawali which I love and so do Hindus whose sacred music is boring

and india's and arguably the world's best best musician and composer A R Rahman is muslim...converted from hinduism as a teenager

but you insist on structuring the world to make muzzies down and out (with a lot of help from them!)

even if they had produced a million einsteins, you would find some way of invalidating them, would you not??
__________________

It wasn't the "Islamic faith" that led to these achievements, Islam didnt bring with it anything other than subjugation, but rather it was the culture and civilizations of the people's both before and after being invaded by Muslims. For example, Iran produced some great poets, thinkers, scientists, and writers, both before and after the Arab Islamic invasion, however non of it had anything to do with what Islam brought. Yet those same poets and scientists are labeled as "Islamic acheivements".

That aside you still haven't shown any real achievements or contributions brought by Muslims in the 20th and 21st century. Other than of course everything that is bad and evil. And that has everything to do with the culture that Islam brings with it.

mostly i agree with you

same could be argued about christians if you distinguish the religious from the countries they occupied except it does help the poor as muslim zakat does as well

buddhism is the only big world faith i can think of apart from mostly SECULAR jews that really can claim to have greatly enhanced the civilisations it graces and peacefully, too excep in sri lanka where they are devils

all the same most rabbis and jews i have ever heard say that on the whole until the 20th century jews had less of a hard time in the muslim world than in europe