A tragedy is no reason

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  1. RetiredGySgt
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    We live in a free society. Tragedies are going to happen. Those of you willing to lose freedom to stop what can not be stopped are either to emotional or to stupid to understand what you are proposing.

    Unbelievable the things people will support because of a tragedy that probably could not be stopped no matter what we do.

    You would lock people up because the behave different then you, you would strip protections promised in the Constitution to prevent the unpreventable.

    Step back and LOOK at what you are willing to sacrifice because of a tragedy that will happen again at some point no matter what steps you take.
     
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    You think the gun nuts and NRA scum would just STFU and let people grieve.

    They have no common decency.

    This tool wants us to believe that 20 children have to die so we can remain 'free'. What a load of crap!!
     
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    So throw some money around, pass some laws, expect the problem to go poof, and by all means launch a few expletives toward those that abide by the law? I would think by now a mature grown man would have realized that the problem is directly related to the decay in our society and not with those that have a strong moral foundation and respect for the law.
     
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    You don't like the 2nd Amendment? get an Amendment through Congress and get 37 States to agree. That is your only solution. And you won't try it because you know 37 States will NEVER agree to lose the right of ownership of Firearms.

    Get this through your stupid head, the 2nd means individual right to ownership and the type of firearm protected by the second is military type weapons, rifles, shotguns and hand guns.

    You don't like that? Pass an amendment to change the 2nd.

    You cowards won't try that because you know what would happen to that attempt. You think you can just ignore the Constitution.
     
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    I agree.
     
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    Your founding fathers could not have forseen the advent of assault rifles or other automatic weapons. If they had been able to, then these tragedies wouldn't take place and the 2nd amendment wouldn't exist. It's just a pity that some Americans think they still live in the wild west and find this amendment so critical to their sense of what they call 'freedom'.
     
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    Yep, and it's clowns and fools that think words and reason will enable people to digest lead, that police forces can protect law abiding citizens from the criminal element. As for the founding fathers, their concern was the preservation of power in the hands of the people not governments. So our founding fathers may have had a better understanding of society and human nature then yours.
     
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    The founders foresaw the people having weapons equal to those of the government, the primary reason for the 2nd Amendment is to maintain the ability of the people to overthrow a tyrannical government. The second purpose was to allow people to protect themselves and they use guns about 2 million time a year to do so, I guess you would prefer an additional million or so victims without guns.
     
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    Our second amendment was always meant as defense against an oppressive government. Those who spout how it was meant for hunting and self protection know nothing. Our second amendment was given to us for the purpose of bringing down our own government if we have to, and anybody who tries to take away that right will regret it.
     
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    This is Adam's Lanza's mother whom he shot in the face and she died. Her name: Nancy Lanza.

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    By RANDY KREIDER
    Dec. 15, 2012

    The aunt of Connecticut shooter Adam Lanza said the shooter's mother pulled him out of Newtown's public school system because she was unhappy with the school district's plans for her son.

    Adam Lanza's mother Nancy, 52, was the first victim of his Friday shooting spree. Lanza shot Nancy in the face and then drove her car to Sandy Hook Elementary School, where he killed 20 students and six adults before taking his own life.

    Marsha Lanza, who is Adam's aunt and Nancy's ex-sister-in-law, called her former sister-in-law an "awesome ... giving person." She also told Evelyn Holmes of ABC-owned-and-operated station WLS in Chicago that Nancy had once been a classroom aide at the Sandy Hook school.

    Marsha, who lives in the Chicago suburb of Crystal Lake, said that Nancy had home-schooled Adam after pulling him out of the Newtown public school system. "She mentioned she wound up home-schooling him because she battled with the school district," said Marsha.

    She did not know when Adam had left school. According to former classmates, Adam had attended the local high school at least through part of 10th grade.

    Nancy Lanza divorced her husband Peter in 2009, when Adam was 17. "She didn't have to work because my brother-in-law left her very well off," said Marsha. "As part of their divorce settlement she got the house."

    Marsha also said, however, that Nancy had purchased guns because she was living alone in a big house. Nancy was originally from New Hampshire, said Marsha, and comfortable with weapons.

    According to police, a Glock handgun, a Sig Sauer handgun and a Bushmaster rifle were recovered after the shooting at Sandy Hook. Authorities say that Nancy Lanza had five weapons registered to her, including a Sig Sauer, a Glock and a Bushmaster. Police have not confirmed that hers were the weapons used in the slayings.

    Adam Lanza's Mom Pulled Him Out of School: Relative - ABC News
     

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