A Simple Question for Barack, Earned

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    Omg....get ready for a bunch of liberals claiming swiftboating....:rolleyes:
     
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    I know it's partisan but here you go.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR8p0bro9RM&feature=user[/ame]
     
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    "Iraq did not attack us. Iraq did not threaten us. Our leaders knew it. Our invasion and occupation of Iraq were blatant, indefensible acts of aggression. Therefore, when the very first Iraqi was killed as the result of our actions, we had committed an act that was gravely immoral, and entirely unforgivable. Yet even now, most Americans desperately cling to the notion that our actions might still be redeemed."

    http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2006/10/missing-moral-center-murdering.html
     
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    It's not strong enough for swiftboating. One group went to meet him and he wasn't there. Why? Was there a valid reason such as McCain's missing the vote for the Veterans' increased benefits: he was at a fund raiser.

    If he doesn't support the troops, why did he vote for this bill while McCain was out campaigning. Even Hillary showed up and voted. McCain wouldn't show up because he would have voted agains it.

    Why should a politician go to Iraq? To find out the truth? You are going to get the sanitized upbeat everything is going frigging great version on Powerpoint.

    This war was wrong from the beginning as earlier mentioned. But will we hold those who were the primary architects accountable? Hell no. We will just keep pimping the Bush line and accuse everyone who is against it as cut and run traitors.

    No, this one will not get any traction.

    But I did read that the RNC is hiring the guy who did the Swiftboating.:evil:
     
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    Remind me how we could have prevented 911? Using your logic since the Muslim terrorists had not actually committed an act of terror if we did not catch them in the act on the air craft we would have heard how the Government was "Fear Mongering" and "railroading" them, just like we have heard on every group caught in the US since 911.

    In the case of Iraq we had a threat that would only get worse so we delat with it. Yet here you lot are claiming we had no reason to do anything.

    Talk to your buddy Dogger about how Bush should have acted on a nebulous report in August that had no names, no dates, no targets and no suspected actions and how it was all Bush's fault for not "doing something" before 911.

    We did something against Iraq and you dip shits whine like a stuck pig. We did something against people in new York and Florida and the Carolinas only to hear you lot complain the Government was "fear Mongering" and violating peoples rights by arresting them for committing crimes.

    What you mean is that we should do nothing until we are attacked and then hope we are still around and can figure out "beyond any doubt" who attacked us ( and even then you will whine we did not prove it) before we threaten to talk bad to them.
     
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    RGS, what does this mean? What did we do against people in ny, fl, and the carolinas?
     
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    Yep, Obama's explaination for the war we shouldn't have went in the first place. That doesn't explain what will happen if we leave and evidentily he doesn't care what would happen. As long as his poll numbers remain high.
     
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    Oh you mean he voted for a bill which would result with decreased retention rates. You really want to go there, to votes that Obama has missed(voting present)? The man accidently ended up at the Capitol to vote:rofl: . The importance that this war ends well is paramount, something any person with a brain should realize. But apparently Obama and a lot of Dems just want to withdrawal at any cost, which is foolish.
     
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    Right, you buy right into the retention argument. If more get out earlier to get their benefits more will also join up to get them. That is just as logical an argument. It isn't a Republican imperative to really support the troops.

    What threat? They didn't have any more WMDs. The inspectors had destroyed most of them. They couldn't attack US and they didn't, Saudi Arabians did that on 9-11.

    Saddam was never a threat to US. That is all bullshit and somewhere down deep in your partisan soul, you know that.

    4000+ dead American Patriots for a bunch of lies. Yeah, right, the Right really does support the troops.
     

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