A serious question for the Tea Party members here.

What we GET, jimbo, is that the Dems are shoving a Socialist agenda on the country against the will of the majority.

We say No.

The electate is angry at the poor economy that the Republicans created and the Dems did not fix. Once the anger is gone, the Tea Party will find far less people in their tent. You can bank on it!

Sadly, you actually believe this. These shitheads in DC (including the Dems my partisan hack friend) created this mess. Your delusional belief that all was well till 2001 is, well, delusional.
 
Do you not see the long term ramifications of what is happening here? The Tea party, or one of its affiliates, are slowly removing moderates from the GOP ranks. I assume the goal is to return the GOP to a far right party, and yet I wonder if the GOP was ever that far to the right.

Can't you see that eventually, you will be pushing the indepdendent voters out from the GOP tent, so to speak. Your effort will lead to less people being "accepted" by the ultra-conservatives that will soon be calling the shots in the GOP.

Of course, there is the possibility that the Tea Party is aspiring to be a seperate power, leading to three major parties. You still lose.

Either option is not good for the Tea Party, nor is it good for the GOP. Short term the GOP will make gains, some due to Tea party efforts, but not as many as they could have gotten.
In 6 years, the GOP could be extent and the Tea Party will emerge with a small tent of ultr-right voters.

DON'T YOU GUYS GET IT?

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

I'm not a member and won't be.

but do you understand that you are supporting the status quo? Are you not even the least bit tiired of the same thing time and again?

I plan on voting for the most fiscally conservative out there, again. B/c quickly (D) or slowly (R) spending us into oblivion isn't working.
 
Do you not see the long term ramifications of what is happening here? The Tea party, or one of its affiliates, are slowly removing moderates from the GOP ranks. I assume the goal is to return the GOP to a far right party, and yet I wonder if the GOP was ever that far to the right.

Can't you see that eventually, you will be pushing the indepdendent voters out from the GOP tent, so to speak. Your effort will lead to less people being "accepted" by the ultra-conservatives that will soon be calling the shots in the GOP.

Of course, there is the possibility that the Tea Party is aspiring to be a seperate power, leading to three major parties. You still lose.

Either option is not good for the Tea Party, nor is it good for the GOP. Short term the GOP will make gains, some due to Tea party efforts, but not as many as they could have gotten.
In 6 years, the GOP could be extent and the Tea Party will emerge with a small tent of ultr-right voters.

DON'T YOU GUYS GET IT?

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

The moderates are what caused the GOP to fail in 2006 and 2008, all of which started in 2005 when Gillespie proclaimed that the Republican Party was no longer the party of small government. "Where are the conservatives going to go?" he asked. That question has been answered.

Which "ultra conservatives" do you think will be calling the shots and what are their positions that make them "ultra conservatives" to you?
 
The further out of the mainstream the GOP moves, the better the outcome for our nation. Good riddance.

The funny thing about purges is there's always someone who's not ideologically pure enough. I'm thrilled that this fever pitch is approaching the Chinese Cultural Revolution level. Who's pure enough to be the Gang of Four? Palin? O'Donnell? DeMint? Tancredo?
 
The further out of the mainstream the GOP moves, the better the outcome for our nation. Good riddance.

The funny thing about purges is there's always someone who's not ideologically pure enough. I'm thrilled that this fever pitch is approaching the Chinese Cultural Revolution level. Who's pure enough to be the Gang of Four? Palin? O'Donnell? DeMint? Tancredo?

Look, I understand you're not too happy that the progressive movement is being thrown overboard. November will more than likely remove the next generation of Dem's from relevancy.... it's over. Sorry. :lol:
 
Voters don't really want financial responsibility. That's why they elect and re-elect repeatedly folks that bring home the pork. Because it ain't pork when its being built in your home town.

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Voters like myself, who pay through the ass in taxes, on a median income, do want financial responsibility. We are footing the bills, and we can't afford the irresponsiblity of the government and the millions of people sucking off the system anymore.

An individual voter? Sure.

But the voting public re-elects and continues to re-elect politicians who bring home pork. And if they don't bring it home, they get the boot for someone that will.

The Tea Party GOP candidates will pick up seats in 2010, but mark my words, in 2012 voters will ask what they've done recently.... i.e. where's the roads, hospitals, military bases, government jobs and schools that last guy brought us? A lot of those folks will end up being one term congress critters, or outright hypocrites when they see what it takes to get re-elected.

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Then those voters are stupid dependent sheep just like so many we see on the left.
 
Do you not see the long term ramifications of what is happening here? The Tea party, or one of its affiliates, are slowly removing moderates from the GOP ranks. I assume the goal is to return the GOP to a far right party, and yet I wonder if the GOP was ever that far to the right.

DON'T YOU GUYS GET IT?

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
I'm not a tea party member, but I fully support their movement, because we need a little shaking-up of the status quo in this country. It's a revolutionary spirit that is taking hold, and much better an ideological revolution, than a bloody one. It's obviously apparent that the old two-party system is barely more than one party, and many of us are sick of the road to insolvency we are currently on.

Lizzie has all of her feces in one sack. She knows what she is talking about.
 
It's not anti-abortion, anti-Gay, pro-Christian... Sure, there are those types involved, but the overwhelming message is financial responsibility.... It's a message that resonates with the people (who self-identify as conservative) when they don't listen to the idiot left's inacurate portrayals...

Voters don't really want financial responsibility.

You and the rest of the democratics are about to find out how wrong you are...
 
leftwinger said:
Biting off your nose to spite your face

By driving out moderates and embracing the 25% hard core conservatives, they are ensuring long term irrelevance

How so?

Secturd Gone - Toomey about to take his place in PA...

Crist Gone - Rubio about to take FL

Murkowski (almost) gone - Miller about to take AK


There are also R's making some longterm D's unemployed in Senate, House, and Governorships...

How is that irrelevant? Just because democratics will take DE and possibly NV?

Smoke another one, leftwinger...
 
The further out of the mainstream the GOP moves, the better the outcome for our nation. Good riddance.

The funny thing about purges is there's always someone who's not ideologically pure enough. I'm thrilled that this fever pitch is approaching the Chinese Cultural Revolution level. Who's pure enough to be the Gang of Four? Palin? O'Donnell? DeMint? Tancredo?

Look, I understand you're not too happy that the progressive movement is being thrown overboard. November will more than likely remove the next generation of Dem's from relevancy.... it's over. Sorry. :lol:

I'm sure we're going to take a beating in November, but we'll still hold onto both houses. People are pissed about the economy. That's it. Now they're starting to pay attention, and remembering how we got here. Even in Nevada, where the least popular senator, who's been bashed by millions of GOP dollars is starting to gain. In California, Whitman is dropping like a stone. In Delaware, O'Donnell has become a total joke.

California is going to be interesting. Jerry Brown is going to be the one to redraw those congressional districts for 2012.
 
Long Term, the Tea Party will be the Bane of the GOP. Stay tuned! The GOP had a great chance of controlling the Senate until the Baggers came along.
 
Voters like myself, who pay through the ass in taxes, on a median income, do want financial responsibility. We are footing the bills, and we can't afford the irresponsiblity of the government and the millions of people sucking off the system anymore.

An individual voter? Sure.

But the voting public re-elects and continues to re-elect politicians who bring home pork. And if they don't bring it home, they get the boot for someone that will.

The Tea Party GOP candidates will pick up seats in 2010, but mark my words, in 2012 voters will ask what they've done recently.... i.e. where's the roads, hospitals, military bases, government jobs and schools that last guy brought us? A lot of those folks will end up being one term congress critters, or outright hypocrites when they see what it takes to get re-elected.

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Then those voters are stupid dependent sheep just like so many we see on the left.

Yes, we all like to be told that, if e don't totally agree with the conservative position, both socially, ideology and fiscally...then we are wrong. They will ring well in 2012. Anger will give the GOP gains in November, but when the economy improved and the fog lifts, then the game will change.
 
An individual voter? Sure.

But the voting public re-elects and continues to re-elect politicians who bring home pork. And if they don't bring it home, they get the boot for someone that will.

The Tea Party GOP candidates will pick up seats in 2010, but mark my words, in 2012 voters will ask what they've done recently.... i.e. where's the roads, hospitals, military bases, government jobs and schools that last guy brought us? A lot of those folks will end up being one term congress critters, or outright hypocrites when they see what it takes to get re-elected.

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Then those voters are stupid dependent sheep just like so many we see on the left.

Yes, we all like to be told that, if e don't totally agree with the conservative position, both socially, ideology and fiscally...then we are wrong. They will ring well in 2012. Anger will give the GOP gains in November, but when the economy improved and the fog lifts, then the game will change.

What makes you think the economy is going to improve now as opposed to 2 years ago?
 
Voters like myself, who pay through the ass in taxes, on a median income, do want financial responsibility. We are footing the bills, and we can't afford the irresponsiblity of the government and the millions of people sucking off the system anymore.

An individual voter? Sure.

But the voting public re-elects and continues to re-elect politicians who bring home pork. And if they don't bring it home, they get the boot for someone that will.

The Tea Party GOP candidates will pick up seats in 2010, but mark my words, in 2012 voters will ask what they've done recently.... i.e. where's the roads, hospitals, military bases, government jobs and schools that last guy brought us? A lot of those folks will end up being one term congress critters, or outright hypocrites when they see what it takes to get re-elected.

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Then those voters are stupid dependent sheep just like so many we see on the left.

Again, it needs to be said:

Agent Kay said:
A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.
 
Then those voters are stupid dependent sheep just like so many we see on the left.

Yes, we all like to be told that, if e don't totally agree with the conservative position, both socially, ideology and fiscally...then we are wrong. They will ring well in 2012. Anger will give the GOP gains in November, but when the economy improved and the fog lifts, then the game will change.

What makes you think the economy is going to improve now as opposed to 2 years ago?

It is improving now, two years ago it was nose diving.
 
It's not anti-abortion, anti-Gay, pro-Christian... Sure, there are those types involved, but the overwhelming message is financial responsibility.... It's a message that resonates with the people (who self-identify as conservative) when they don't listen to the idiot left's inacurate portrayals...

Voters don't really want financial responsibility.

You and the rest of the democratics are about to find out how wrong you are...

Eh. I'm a moderate. I voted for Bush. Up till Palin I was leaning towards voting for McCain. In 2012, if the GOP doesn't give me Palin or some other idiot of her type, I'll probably vote GOP.

As I said before, I hope that we are heading for a new trend towards fiscal responsibility. But I'm old enough to remember people caring about the debt, and quickly losing interest when they realize you can't just solve that problem in 15 minutes. The American voter is short sighted, selfish, and easily distracted, and you know it. I know it. Hoping that isn't true doesn't make it less true.

If that sounds cynical, so be it. I've seen "Fiscally responsible" Republicans spend away my kid's future on credit, and "Corruption Fighting" Democrats leave Washington under indictment.

The biggest danger to the Tea Party movement is the reality of what it takes to keep power once you get there. Will they go Socially conservative to scare people into voting for them over Gods, Gays, and Guns? Will they sell out to K-Street like DeLay? Will they buy votes with some new improved health plan that's just a pay out to the Insurance companies like the awesome Medicare Prescription Plan or Obamacare? Who knows?

At this point I think there's no solution short of a Constitutional Convention or a straight up third party movement. I think the folks that believe that the Tea Party will change things in the long run ought to look back at Newt's Contract with America. Or the Goldwater Republicans. Or "Hope and Change." Let me know how that all worked out for you.
 
Yes, we all like to be told that, if e don't totally agree with the conservative position, both socially, ideology and fiscally...then we are wrong. They will ring well in 2012. Anger will give the GOP gains in November, but when the economy improved and the fog lifts, then the game will change.

What makes you think the economy is going to improve now as opposed to 2 years ago?

It is improving now, two years ago it was nose diving.

Improving? How so?
 

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