A Revolution is coming.

It may be a soft one or a hard one, but with the delusional Liberals in charge it is coming. Right now as the signs increase and the warnings are out there, what are the liberals doing? They are calling those upset and opposed to more liberal socialism, astro turf and liars, they are calling them fakes and crazies.

When the breaking point comes, the left will remain just as delusional as it is now and in denial. It won't be their fault it will be the vast secret Right wing conspiracy. The simple fact is only about 30 percent are Republicans and only about 30 percent are Democrats, the majority is that 40 percent that decide each election who to vote for. And THEY are the ones getting upset, they are the ones that find the plans and policies of this Administration are wrong. THEY are questioning Obama and the Congress, only to be ignored and labeled as astro turf and other stupid names.

All one need do is open their eyes and pay attention. But that will not happen. The Liberals live in a dream world, they are to delusional to see the writing on the wall right in front of them.


The left better hope it's a 'soft' one...

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Every time I see someone on the right claim to be for our soldiers, it sickens me. It's the right that cuts their family benefits. It's the right that sends them to moldy hospitals. It's the right that cuts their medical benefits. It's the right that sent them to Iraq in vehicles that wouldn't stop a fire cracker much less a grenade.

McCain got a better score by Veterans Groups than Bush. Scores of D minus and 20%. You would think that someone who actually spent time in the military would be more understanding than someone AWOL. But Bush's scores were slightly better.

Our soldiers have been done so much wrong by the right it's a disgrace. What's worse, the soldiers continue to support people that have mistreated them because they have been tricked by the right who waves a fake flag of patriotism. Conservatives laugh at and use our soldiers for their evil agenda.
 
There will be no revolution.

It happened last November when real Americans took back real America.

It is the stoopidcons looking out of the fish tank thinking that tank is the real world.
 
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There will be no revolution.

It happened last November when real Americans took back real Americans.

It is the stoopidcons looking out of the fish tank thinking that tank is the real world.

Well, thanks to you blind Obama Borg, you to will lose all power next election. 3rd party will rise, and you partisan hacks will fall.
 
KK, please stop.

There is no revolution coming.

RGS is talking out his ass.

I wasn't claiming there was, only that if there was, people who spout off about it coming wouldn't be the ones you'd worry about anyway. ;)

Its already here Article, its been a soft quiet one slowly gaining steam for several years now. If the 111th congress keeps up their crap, and the president keeps shoveling it on top of us, those quiet people who surround us soft revolters will be joining in with us too.

You saw some of us come out in force to vote in Obama in 2008, those same people are now seeing obama is not delivering on his campaign rhetoric/promises and are turning against him.

We will not be silenced by the shenanigans and soon our disgust will show in voting results.

What are they going to do? Vote in republicans?
 
I wasn't claiming there was, only that if there was, people who spout off about it coming wouldn't be the ones you'd worry about anyway. ;)

Its already here Article, its been a soft quiet one slowly gaining steam for several years now. If the 111th congress keeps up their crap, and the president keeps shoveling it on top of us, those quiet people who surround us soft revolters will be joining in with us too.

You saw some of us come out in force to vote in Obama in 2008, those same people are now seeing obama is not delivering on his campaign rhetoric/promises and are turning against him.

We will not be silenced by the shenanigans and soon our disgust will show in voting results.

What are they going to do? Vote in republicans?

There are other options, Democrat and Republican are not the only two candidates that are available.
 
Yell all you want, cons, the revolution has happened, and you were home napping.
 
Why would anyone bother to risk organising a revolution that could fail when they have the option of voting in elections?

Look up the word revolution, it's not the same as "armed rebellion" ... a revolution can happen at the polls. ;)

Figuratively speaking a revolution can happen at the polls. But is this discussion on the figurative meaning of the word or the actual, accepted meaning of the word, as in overthrowing a democratically elected government?
 
Its already here Article, its been a soft quiet one slowly gaining steam for several years now. If the 111th congress keeps up their crap, and the president keeps shoveling it on top of us, those quiet people who surround us soft revolters will be joining in with us too.

You saw some of us come out in force to vote in Obama in 2008, those same people are now seeing obama is not delivering on his campaign rhetoric/promises and are turning against him.

We will not be silenced by the shenanigans and soon our disgust will show in voting results.

What are they going to do? Vote in republicans?

There are other options, Democrat and Republican are not the only two candidates that are available.

You know what's going to happen? The republicans are going to pick up a number of seats next year. Almost immediately after that the 2012 presidential campaign will kick off. If the American people think they are better off than they were 4 years ago Obama get reelected. If not, whoever the GOP puts up will win. I'd be shocked if 5 seats are won by a third party combined in both elections.

The only person I can think of capable of funding an independent national campaign with a chance to win is Bloomberg.
 
What are they going to do? Vote in republicans?

There are other options, Democrat and Republican are not the only two candidates that are available.

You know what's going to happen? The republicans are going to pick up a number of seats next year. Almost immediately after that the 2012 presidential campaign will kick off. If the American people think they are better off than they were 4 years ago Obama get reelected. If not, whoever the GOP puts up will win. I'd be shocked if 5 seats are won by a third party combined in both elections.

The only person I can think of capable of funding an independent national campaign with a chance to win is Bloomberg.

That's where organization comes into play, if enough of us Independent voters and those who are sick of the bipartisan crap can just agree on one candidate, it would start real change. Admittedly the politicians in power will try to squash it, but if we have the resolve to just pick one candidate who is not of the two major dictator parties and stick with it, no changing our minds, then a third party will rise up to their ranks or (the preferred result) all the parties would be pushed to an equal playing field.

If the government is corrupt enough to ignore the votes, then we will see it if enough people are honest and strong enough to stick with the idea. In which case there would likely be an armed rebellion, which would be nice to avoid. Hopefully our government hasn't gotten that corrupt yet. In which case the voters will see that there is more than two choices now, and the two dictator parties will lose a lot of their voters as people become more informed.

It's possible, and with each president lately it's becoming more likely. It has become a matter of how much can each voter take of the same shit before they finally decide to stop supporting it.
 
There are other options, Democrat and Republican are not the only two candidates that are available.

You know what's going to happen? The republicans are going to pick up a number of seats next year. Almost immediately after that the 2012 presidential campaign will kick off. If the American people think they are better off than they were 4 years ago Obama get reelected. If not, whoever the GOP puts up will win. I'd be shocked if 5 seats are won by a third party combined in both elections.

The only person I can think of capable of funding an independent national campaign with a chance to win is Bloomberg.

That's where organization comes into play, if enough of us Independent voters and those who are sick of the bipartisan crap can just agree on one candidate, it would start real change. Admittedly the politicians in power will try to squash it, but if we have the resolve to just pick one candidate who is not of the two major dictator parties and stick with it, no changing our minds, then a third party will rise up to their ranks or (the preferred result) all the parties would be pushed to an equal playing field.

If the government is corrupt enough to ignore the votes, then we will see it if enough people are honest and strong enough to stick with the idea. In which case there would likely be an armed rebellion, which would be nice to avoid. Hopefully our government hasn't gotten that corrupt yet. In which case the voters will see that there is more than two choices now, and the two dictator parties will lose a lot of their voters as people become more informed.

It's possible, and with each president lately it's becoming more likely. It has become a matter of how much can each voter take of the same shit before they finally decide to stop supporting it.


Kitten, can you please elaborate on the underlined part in your comments, and tell me how you know this? Thanks!
 
You know what's going to happen? The republicans are going to pick up a number of seats next year. Almost immediately after that the 2012 presidential campaign will kick off. If the American people think they are better off than they were 4 years ago Obama get reelected. If not, whoever the GOP puts up will win. I'd be shocked if 5 seats are won by a third party combined in both elections.

The only person I can think of capable of funding an independent national campaign with a chance to win is Bloomberg.

That's where organization comes into play, if enough of us Independent voters and those who are sick of the bipartisan crap can just agree on one candidate, it would start real change. Admittedly the politicians in power will try to squash it, but if we have the resolve to just pick one candidate who is not of the two major dictator parties and stick with it, no changing our minds, then a third party will rise up to their ranks or (the preferred result) all the parties would be pushed to an equal playing field.

If the government is corrupt enough to ignore the votes, then we will see it if enough people are honest and strong enough to stick with the idea. In which case there would likely be an armed rebellion, which would be nice to avoid. Hopefully our government hasn't gotten that corrupt yet. In which case the voters will see that there is more than two choices now, and the two dictator parties will lose a lot of their voters as people become more informed.

It's possible, and with each president lately it's becoming more likely. It has become a matter of how much can each voter take of the same shit before they finally decide to stop supporting it.


Kitten, can you please elaborate on the underlined part in your comments, and tell me how you know this? Thanks!

The word "likely" is key there. ;) It means I am guestimating based on historical events, not that I know for certain.
 
That's where organization comes into play, if enough of us Independent voters and those who are sick of the bipartisan crap can just agree on one candidate, it would start real change. Admittedly the politicians in power will try to squash it, but if we have the resolve to just pick one candidate who is not of the two major dictator parties and stick with it, no changing our minds, then a third party will rise up to their ranks or (the preferred result) all the parties would be pushed to an equal playing field.

If the government is corrupt enough to ignore the votes, then we will see it if enough people are honest and strong enough to stick with the idea. In which case there would likely be an armed rebellion, which would be nice to avoid. Hopefully our government hasn't gotten that corrupt yet. In which case the voters will see that there is more than two choices now, and the two dictator parties will lose a lot of their voters as people become more informed.

It's possible, and with each president lately it's becoming more likely. It has become a matter of how much can each voter take of the same shit before they finally decide to stop supporting it.


Kitten, can you please elaborate on the underlined part in your comments, and tell me how you know this? Thanks!

The word "likely" is key there. ;) It means I am guestimating based on historical events, not that I know for certain.

Historical Events from the American Revolution? I see.
 
Kitten, can you please elaborate on the underlined part in your comments, and tell me how you know this? Thanks!

The word "likely" is key there. ;) It means I am guestimating based on historical events, not that I know for certain.

Historical Events from the American Revolution? I see.

Not just the American Revolution, there are many others around the world to look at, some failed, some successful, some that barely get started then everyone just gives up and goes back to work. Try taking the statement as it is.
 
The word "likely" is key there. ;) It means I am guestimating based on historical events, not that I know for certain.

Historical Events from the American Revolution? I see.

Not just the American Revolution, there are many others around the world to look at, some failed, some successful, some that barely get started then everyone just gives up and goes back to work. Try taking the statement as it is.

The statement that if a third party isn't elected the people of the USA may or may not have a revolution? I think you were quite clear on that!

And as I said before, I'm all for a third party, but if it's not successful I'm not going to revolt against my country. But that's just the way I roll.
 
Sometimes a revolution is justified (stand by for incoming simplistic argument) such as when a regime is so oppressive that it has to be removed. But in nations that have technologically advanced societies and stable forms of democracy revolution can only be damaging and not restorative or corrective. It reminds me of the nutters of Bader-Meinhoff who thought they could remove the West German government by revolution - it's largely a fantasy.
 
Historical Events from the American Revolution? I see.

Not just the American Revolution, there are many others around the world to look at, some failed, some successful, some that barely get started then everyone just gives up and goes back to work. Try taking the statement as it is.

The statement that if a third party isn't elected the people of the USA may or may not have a revolution? I think you were quite clear on that!

And as I said before, I'm all for a third party, but if it's not successful I'm not going to revolt against my country. But that's just the way I roll.

That's the beauty of our country, you don't have to if you don't want to. I may, it would depend on what side is which and many other factors. I would be willing to die for my freedom of speech though, anyone who messes with that had better be ready for whatever tiny little fight I can muster up, it's the one thing I believe in so strongly that I go crazy when it's even rumored to be threatened. ;)
 

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