A Republican-Pandemic; Selective-Deafness!!

Shaman is right, as usual, Obama and the Dems made the debt too big. We can't cut anything without bringing about a new Ice Age.
 
Over half of the deficit we have now was there before Obama was inaugurated.

The programs the republicans want to cut? Privatize $ocial $ecurity or anything but defense.
 
Over half of the deficit we have now was there before Obama was inaugurated.

The programs the republicans want to cut? Privatize $ocial $ecurity or anything but defense.

So... Obama, in two fucking years doubled the national debt incurred since George Washington???????

AWESOME!!!!
 
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Just TEST one-of-them!!!​

"Ask any Republican in the House and Senate (exactly) which government programs they plan to cut in order to cut the $1.3-trillion deficit?"

:eusa_eh:

Lame.

How long have they been in session? Did you want a full blown plan by the GOP yesterday?

We tried passing bills w/o reading them already, that hasn't worked out so well. So how about we give it 2 weeks, after they are in session, to come out with a well thought out plan.

Prepare for it to be brutal. I know I'm prepared. I have the perfect crackers and cheese that go with liberal flavored whine.
 
The numbers below do NOT reflect the actual National Debt. Instead, they reflect the amount of the INCREASE in the National Debt during each presidential term.

> Ronald Reagan’s First Term – $656 billion increase

> Ronald Reagan’s Second Term – $1.036 trillion increase

> George H.W. Bush’s Term – $1.587 trillion increase

> Bill Clinton’s First Term – $1.122 trillion increase

> Bill Clinton’s Second Term – $418 billion increase

> George W. Bush’s First Term – $1.885 trillion increase

> George W. Bush’s Second Term – $3.014 trillion increase

> Barack Obama’s First “Year” – $1.573 trillion increase

To summarize, the National Debt increased by huge amounts under each of these presidents. The largest increase for a complete term occured during George W. Bush’s second term. The largest increse during a single year occurred during Barack Obama’s first year.

Current Obama administration projections indicate that the National Debt will increase by approximately $6.5 trillion during President Obama’s first term. If that happens, then he will obviously overtake President Bush’s record increase in the National Debt.

It is clear that the National Debt has been growing uncontrollably in recent years, regardless of which political party has been in power. To reverse this trend, we need to hold our elected officials accountable and demand that they balance the budget and reduce the National Debt.

The National Debt by President The National Debt Crisis
 
Over half of the deficit we have now was there before Obama was inaugurated.

The programs the republicans want to cut? Privatize $ocial $ecurity or anything but defense.

So... Obama, in two fucking years doubled the national debt incurred since George Washington???????

AWESOME!!!!

Wingnuts don't know the difference between budget deficits and the national debt:cuckoo:
 
The numbers below do NOT reflect the actual National Debt. Instead, they reflect the amount of the INCREASE in the National Debt during each presidential term.

> Ronald Reagan’s First Term – $656 billion increase

> Ronald Reagan’s Second Term – $1.036 trillion increase

> George H.W. Bush’s Term – $1.587 trillion increase

> Bill Clinton’s First Term – $1.122 trillion increase

> Bill Clinton’s Second Term – $418 billion increase

> George W. Bush’s First Term – $1.885 trillion increase

> George W. Bush’s Second Term – $3.014 trillion increase

> Barack Obama’s First “Year” – $1.573 trillion increase

To summarize, the National Debt increased by huge amounts under each of these presidents. The largest increase for a complete term occured during George W. Bush’s second term. The largest increse during a single year occurred during Barack Obama’s first year.

Current Obama administration projections indicate that the National Debt will increase by approximately $6.5 trillion during President Obama’s first term. If that happens, then he will obviously overtake President Bush’s record increase in the National Debt.

It is clear that the National Debt has been growing uncontrollably in recent years, regardless of which political party has been in power. To reverse this trend, we need to hold our elected officials accountable and demand that they balance the budget and reduce the National Debt.

The National Debt by President The National Debt Crisis

" The largest increse during a single year occurred during Barack Obama’s first year."

That would be the FY2009 budget, passed in 2008 when bush* was in office

Obama 1st budget is FY2010, which has a deficit lower than FY2009

Instead of playing games with #'s (and lying about who is responsible for the FY2009 budget), the following graph makes clear who is responsible for the national debt

Natl_Debt_Chart.jpg
 
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Over half of the deficit we have now was there before Obama was inaugurated.

The programs the republicans want to cut? Privatize $ocial $ecurity or anything but defense.

So... Obama, in two fucking years doubled the national debt incurred since George Washington???????

AWESOME!!!!

This quote demonstrates your poor understanding of the simplest concepts on this issue, but I'll correct you and continue to discuss it with you as if you said "deficit".

He less than doubled the deficit, not the national debt. And honestly I was being extremely generous saying "more than half" since the CBO projected that the deficit would be 1.2 trillion two weeks before Obama was inaugurated. Out of fairness I didn't attribute all of the approximately 700 bil from TARP to Bush even though he was still president at the time. PolitiFact | Axelrod claims Bush saddled Obama with a big deficit

Also, if the people in charge knew asses from elbows the stimulus for consumers would have been larger and the deficit now would be larger in order to alleviate the financial mess that Bush presided over.
 
The numbers below do NOT reflect the actual National Debt. Instead, they reflect the amount of the INCREASE in the National Debt during each presidential term.

> Ronald Reagan’s First Term – $656 billion increase

> Ronald Reagan’s Second Term – $1.036 trillion increase

> George H.W. Bush’s Term – $1.587 trillion increase

> Bill Clinton’s First Term – $1.122 trillion increase

> Bill Clinton’s Second Term – $418 billion increase

> George W. Bush’s First Term – $1.885 trillion increase

> George W. Bush’s Second Term – $3.014 trillion increase

> Barack Obama’s First “Year” – $1.573 trillion increase

To summarize, the National Debt increased by huge amounts under each of these presidents. The largest increase for a complete term occured during George W. Bush’s second term. The largest increse during a single year occurred during Barack Obama’s first year.

Current Obama administration projections indicate that the National Debt will increase by approximately $6.5 trillion during President Obama’s first term. If that happens, then he will obviously overtake President Bush’s record increase in the National Debt.

It is clear that the National Debt has been growing uncontrollably in recent years, regardless of which political party has been in power. To reverse this trend, we need to hold our elected officials accountable and demand that they balance the budget and reduce the National Debt.

The National Debt by President The National Debt Crisis

" The largest increse during a single year occurred during Barack Obama’s first year."

That would be the FY2009 budget, passed in 2008 when bush* was in office

Obama 1st budget is FY2010, which has a deficit lower than FY2009

Instead of playing games with #'s (and lying about who is responsible for the FY2009 budget), the following graph makes clear who is responsible for the national debt

Natl_Debt_Chart.jpg

Since it's Congress that truly controls spending and the budget, lets look at that;

National Debt by Congress and Political Party


You can see from the graff on that page that dems don't know how to control spending either. As they gain control of the money the debt goes up, when reps have control of Congress it goes down.
 
You can see from the graff on that page that dems don't know how to control spending either. As they gain control of the money the debt goes up, when reps have control of Congress it goes down.

The federal budget proposal originates with the president, and congress almost never appropriates more than the president requests.

Besides, consumers aren't spending because they have no money and/or jobs. This means we cut taxes for the middle class and/or spend stimulus money (raising the deficit). This is probably the most stupid situation in which one could act like a deficit hawk.
 
The numbers below do NOT reflect the actual National Debt. Instead, they reflect the amount of the INCREASE in the National Debt during each presidential term.

> Ronald Reagan’s First Term – $656 billion increase

> Ronald Reagan’s Second Term – $1.036 trillion increase

> George H.W. Bush’s Term – $1.587 trillion increase

> Bill Clinton’s First Term – $1.122 trillion increase

> Bill Clinton’s Second Term – $418 billion increase

> George W. Bush’s First Term – $1.885 trillion increase

> George W. Bush’s Second Term – $3.014 trillion increase

> Barack Obama’s First “Year” – $1.573 trillion increase

To summarize, the National Debt increased by huge amounts under each of these presidents. The largest increase for a complete term occured during George W. Bush’s second term. The largest increse during a single year occurred during Barack Obama’s first year.

Current Obama administration projections indicate that the National Debt will increase by approximately $6.5 trillion during President Obama’s first term. If that happens, then he will obviously overtake President Bush’s record increase in the National Debt.

It is clear that the National Debt has been growing uncontrollably in recent years, regardless of which political party has been in power. To reverse this trend, we need to hold our elected officials accountable and demand that they balance the budget and reduce the National Debt.

The National Debt by President The National Debt Crisis

" The largest increse during a single year occurred during Barack Obama’s first year."

That would be the FY2009 budget, passed in 2008 when bush* was in office

Obama 1st budget is FY2010, which has a deficit lower than FY2009

Instead of playing games with #'s (and lying about who is responsible for the FY2009 budget), the following graph makes clear who is responsible for the national debt

Natl_Debt_Chart.jpg

Since it's Congress that truly controls spending and the budget, lets look at that;

National Debt by Congress and Political Party


You can see from the graff on that page that dems don't know how to control spending either. As they gain control of the money the debt goes up, when reps have control of Congress it goes down.

Sorry, but presidents sign every budget.

Your link is freeper nonsense
 
Over half of the deficit we have now was there before Obama was inaugurated.

The programs the republicans want to cut? Privatize $ocial $ecurity or anything but defense.

So... Obama, in two fucking years doubled the national debt incurred since George Washington???????

AWESOME!!!!

Wingnuts don't know the difference between budget deficits and the national debt:cuckoo:
In 20 months, Obama has spent more than all other presidential admins combined.
Now, with breakneck speed, the Dollar is headed downhill. We may end up with hyperinflation and double digit interest rates very soon. He has tripled the deficit. Spent over 3 trillion dollars we do not have.
One thing is certain, if the bleeding caused by Obama is not stopped, this recession is going to destroy our economy.. Have you noticed the price of gas lately? Yeah up some 15-to 20 cents per gallon. Not due to demand. Due to inflation. The dollar is being slammed by the federal reserve. There has been no real uptick in buying of oil futures contracts. The price of oil is based on the Dollar. As the dollar falls in value, the price of oil rises.
Obama and his people are deliberately scuttling the dollar to make the NYSE Dow Jones Average look better. Stocks are way overpriced right now.
This is going to be a very shitty holiday season.....All Obama's doing.
 
So... Obama, in two fucking years doubled the national debt incurred since George Washington???????

AWESOME!!!!

Wingnuts don't know the difference between budget deficits and the national debt:cuckoo:
In 20 months, Obama has spent more than all other presidential admins combined.
Now, with breakneck speed, the Dollar is headed downhill. We may end up with hyperinflation and double digit interest rates very soon. He has tripled the deficit. Spent over 3 trillion dollars we do not have.
One thing is certain, if the bleeding caused by Obama is not stopped, this recession is going to destroy our economy.. Have you noticed the price of gas lately? Yeah up some 15-to 20 cents per gallon. Not due to demand. Due to inflation. The dollar is being slammed by the federal reserve. There has been no real uptick in buying of oil futures contracts. The price of oil is based on the Dollar. As the dollar falls in value, the price of oil rises.
Obama and his people are deliberately scuttling the dollar to make the NYSE Dow Jones Average look better. Stocks are way overpriced right now.
This is going to be a very shitty holiday season.....All Obama's doing.

Wrong, the spending in the first year of Obama's term (FY2009) was passed under bush*'s watch, and both the FY2009 and FY2010 budgets were saddled with record setting spending requirements from bush*'s TARP program. bush* saddled us with spending.
 
Wingnuts don't know the difference between budget deficits and the national debt:cuckoo:
In 20 months, Obama has spent more than all other presidential admins combined.
Now, with breakneck speed, the Dollar is headed downhill. We may end up with hyperinflation and double digit interest rates very soon. He has tripled the deficit. Spent over 3 trillion dollars we do not have.
One thing is certain, if the bleeding caused by Obama is not stopped, this recession is going to destroy our economy.. Have you noticed the price of gas lately? Yeah up some 15-to 20 cents per gallon. Not due to demand. Due to inflation. The dollar is being slammed by the federal reserve. There has been no real uptick in buying of oil futures contracts. The price of oil is based on the Dollar. As the dollar falls in value, the price of oil rises.
Obama and his people are deliberately scuttling the dollar to make the NYSE Dow Jones Average look better. Stocks are way overpriced right now.
This is going to be a very shitty holiday season.....All Obama's doing.

Wrong, the spending in the first year of Obama's term (FY2009) was passed under bush*'s watch, and both the FY2009 and FY2010 budgets were saddled with record setting spending requirements from bush*'s TARP program. bush* saddled us with spending.
NIce try..Won't wash. This is Obama's watch and he is responsible. Period done end of story....
21 months...Sorry, you Obamatons cannot blame Bush anymore....Bush did not approve $1 trilllion in "stimulus"...Bush did not have the fed print money to give to Wall Street.
Obama did this. His watch. His policies.
BTW most if not all TARP money has been paid back in full.
You're all wet here. out of gas.
 
obama is doing great for US...since the day he has become President ...we become the stronger in finacial conditions....we are growing at faster rate....
 

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