“A Republic, if you can keep it.”

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    At the close of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, when queried as he left Independence Hall on the final day of deliberation—in the notes of Dr. James McHenry, one of Maryland’s delegates to the Convention.

    Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?”

    “A Republic, if you can keep it.”


    Happy Birthday my dear US of A

    from a Constitutional Republic

    to a

    Gargantuan bankrupt welfare/warfare police state


    For shame


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    When Mrs. Powel asked that question of Franklin the common definition of Republic was "not a monarchy," so the new government, Franklin was saying, was the USA would not have a king. The framers attempted to keep their work on the Constitution secret, so many Americans did not know of them writing a new plan for government, until finished.
     
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    No sir.

    The Founders defined A Republican government as one which uses a Constitution to safeguard individual freedom
     
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    Yes, Neoliberalism is eroding our democratic form of government. For shame indeed, it is time for Americans to wake up to this failing ideology and restore the people's democracy.

    American Nightmare: the Depravity of Neoliberalism
    What is the connection between the US Empire’s contempt for law and truth-telling and neo-liberalism?

    And how is it that citizens can be so passive in the face of evident government prevarication, endless spinning of false narratives, the evisceration of democratic morality and countless corporate and government scandals?

    Most of us know that neo-liberalism as an economic form repudiates Keynesian welfare state economics and was propounded by ideologues like Milton Friedman at the University of Chicago and in an earlier day, by the dubious intellectual propagandist Friedrich von Hayek.

    In popular usage, neo-liberalism conjures up a cluster of ideas adumbrated by Brown: a radically free market, maximized competition and free trade achieved through economic de-regulation, elimination of tariffs, a range of monetary and social policies favourable to business and indifferent toward poverty, social deracination, cultural decimation and long-term resource depletion and environmental destruction.
     
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    Yo butthead


    we are a gargantuan bankrupt welfare/warfare police state

    So what the fuck do Friedrich von Hayek.or Milton Friedman have to do with it ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


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    I could argue that the Neoliberal economics of those gentlemen have helped enable a warfare state but that wasn't really the cause of my concern as we haven't transformed into anything. We are still a constitutional republic. Who our representatives are representing is at issue however. Which is where those gentlemen come in.
     
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    How does CAPITALISM enable a warfare state?

    WARFARISM IS A FASCISTIC CHARACTERISTIC


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    Yeah, it's crazy to see this hellhole of a country we've become. I was just complaining the other day about this one spot in the road that I always drop calls, and the slow wifi at the local coffee shop. We got it really rough
     
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    Our Founders are, no doubt, rolling in their graves. You are witness to a once great Nation in its' final days.

    I remember a hippie song from the 60s (or rather some of the lyrics) - I "believe" that it was Steppenwolf that went something like this:

    "we'll stick our heads into the sand; just pretend that all is grand,
    and hope that everything turns ok"

    Welcome to 21st Century America.
     
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    Typical parasite

    so long as he gets his welfare benefits on time everything is hunky dory.

    Incarceration in the United States is one of the main forms of punishment, rehabilitation, or both for the commission of felonyand other offenses. The United States has the largest prison population in the world,[3][4][5] and the second-highest per-capita incarceration rate, behind Seychelles (which in 2014 had a total prison population of 735 out of a population of around 92,000).[3][6] In 2013 in the US, there were 698 people incarcerated per 100,000 population. This is the U.S. incarceration rate for adults or people tried as adults.[7][3]


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