A real look at ethnic cleansing in the Holy land... decide for yourself

[montelatici]

Doesn'

Exactly, and the foreigners declared their state on Palestine's defined territory.

How can something so simple escape you?

foreigners declared their state on Palestine's defined territory.

On the country of Palestine?

On the territory of Palestine which was to have been held in trust for its inhabitants pursuant to Article 22 of the League of Nations.

"ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant."

The people inhabiting the former territory that ceased to be under the sovereignty of the State which formerly governed it (Turkey) were overwhelming Christians and Muslims. The the overwhelming majority of the Zionists weren't inhabitants of Palestine, they inhabited Europe.

On the territory of Palestine

Which was designated for a Jewish homeland.

Article 22 doesn't say anything of the sort, nor does it exclude Palestine as one of the former territories. The inhabitants of Palestine, were to have received tutelage (protection) per the Covenant, and the British failed to protect the inhabitants of Palestine.

Losing has consequences. Turkey lost.

Since then, the Arabs kept losing.

Now we'll see how much more the Arabs in the West Bank can lose.
Not looking too good..

Doesn'

Exactly, and the foreigners declared their state on Palestine's defined territory.

How can something so simple escape you?

foreigners declared their state on Palestine's defined territory.

On the country of Palestine?

On the territory of Palestine which was to have been held in trust for its inhabitants pursuant to Article 22 of the League of Nations.

"ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant."

The people inhabiting the former territory that ceased to be under the sovereignty of the State which formerly governed it (Turkey) were overwhelming Christians and Muslims. The the overwhelming majority of the Zionists weren't inhabitants of Palestine, they inhabited Europe.

On the territory of Palestine

Which was designated for a Jewish homeland.

Article 22 doesn't say anything of the sort, nor does it exclude Palestine as one of the former territories. The inhabitants of Palestine, were to have received tutelage (protection) per the Covenant, and the British failed to protect the inhabitants of Palestine.

Losing has consequences. Turkey lost.

Since then, the Arabs kept losing.

Now we'll see how much more the Arabs in the West Bank can lose.
Not looking too good..

Turkey had nothing to do with the Covenant's requirement that the inhabitant of the territories be protected. The Muslims and Christians lost because the Mandatory failed to protect them. The British lost not the Christians and Muslims, they were relying on the rule of law.

Eventually the Jews will be overwhelmed by demographics. I don't think the Jews will fare as well as the white South Africans who came to their senses before they built up too much hate to overcome.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Doesn'

foreigners declared their state on Palestine's defined territory.

On the country of Palestine?

On the territory of Palestine which was to have been held in trust for its inhabitants pursuant to Article 22 of the League of Nations.

"ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant."

The people inhabiting the former territory that ceased to be under the sovereignty of the State which formerly governed it (Turkey) were overwhelming Christians and Muslims. The the overwhelming majority of the Zionists weren't inhabitants of Palestine, they inhabited Europe.

On the territory of Palestine

Which was designated for a Jewish homeland.

Article 22 doesn't say anything of the sort, nor does it exclude Palestine as one of the former territories. The inhabitants of Palestine, were to have received tutelage (protection) per the Covenant, and the British failed to protect the inhabitants of Palestine.

Losing has consequences. Turkey lost.

Since then, the Arabs kept losing.

Now we'll see how much more the Arabs in the West Bank can lose.
Not looking too good..

Doesn'

foreigners declared their state on Palestine's defined territory.

On the country of Palestine?

On the territory of Palestine which was to have been held in trust for its inhabitants pursuant to Article 22 of the League of Nations.

"ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant."

The people inhabiting the former territory that ceased to be under the sovereignty of the State which formerly governed it (Turkey) were overwhelming Christians and Muslims. The the overwhelming majority of the Zionists weren't inhabitants of Palestine, they inhabited Europe.

On the territory of Palestine

Which was designated for a Jewish homeland.

Article 22 doesn't say anything of the sort, nor does it exclude Palestine as one of the former territories. The inhabitants of Palestine, were to have received tutelage (protection) per the Covenant, and the British failed to protect the inhabitants of Palestine.

Losing has consequences. Turkey lost.

Since then, the Arabs kept losing.

Now we'll see how much more the Arabs in the West Bank can lose.
Not looking too good..

Turkey had nothing to do with the Covenant's requirement that the inhabitant of the territories be protected. The Muslims and Christians lost because the Mandatory failed to protect them. The British lost not the Christians and Muslims, they were relying on the rule of law.

Eventually the Jews will be overwhelmed by demographics. I don't think the Jews will fare as well as the white South Africans who came to their senses before they built up too much hate to overcome.

Eventually the Jews will be overwhelmed by demographics.

You should hold your breath.

 

[montelatici]

No need to wait, it's already happening. The end of the two-state solution was the first step.

 

[Shusha]

... the British failed to protect the inhabitants of Palestine.

The British were not obligated to "protect" the inhabitants of Palestine (least of all from their own stupidity). They were obligated to put in force the conditions of the Mandate, including the development of the Jewish National Home in order to re-constitute her Nation.

You are trying to put forth the idea that there is something harmful inherent in the idea of a Jewish State. That somehow the idea or the act of being Jewish requires people to be protected from it.

But the well-being and development of the inhabitants was in no way compromised by the formation of the Jewish State. There is nothing to be protected from.

 

[Hollie]

Doesn'

foreigners declared their state on Palestine's defined territory.

On the country of Palestine?

On the territory of Palestine which was to have been held in trust for its inhabitants pursuant to Article 22 of the League of Nations.

"ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant."

The people inhabiting the former territory that ceased to be under the sovereignty of the State which formerly governed it (Turkey) were overwhelming Christians and Muslims. The the overwhelming majority of the Zionists weren't inhabitants of Palestine, they inhabited Europe.

On the territory of Palestine

Which was designated for a Jewish homeland.

Article 22 doesn't say anything of the sort, nor does it exclude Palestine as one of the former territories. The inhabitants of Palestine, were to have received tutelage (protection) per the Covenant, and the British failed to protect the inhabitants of Palestine.

Losing has consequences. Turkey lost.

Since then, the Arabs kept losing.

Now we'll see how much more the Arabs in the West Bank can lose.
Not looking too good..

Doesn'

foreigners declared their state on Palestine's defined territory.

On the country of Palestine?

On the territory of Palestine which was to have been held in trust for its inhabitants pursuant to Article 22 of the League of Nations.

"ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant."

The people inhabiting the former territory that ceased to be under the sovereignty of the State which formerly governed it (Turkey) were overwhelming Christians and Muslims. The the overwhelming majority of the Zionists weren't inhabitants of Palestine, they inhabited Europe.

On the territory of Palestine

Which was designated for a Jewish homeland.

Article 22 doesn't say anything of the sort, nor does it exclude Palestine as one of the former territories. The inhabitants of Palestine, were to have received tutelage (protection) per the Covenant, and the British failed to protect the inhabitants of Palestine.

Losing has consequences. Turkey lost.

Since then, the Arabs kept losing.

Now we'll see how much more the Arabs in the West Bank can lose.
Not looking too good..

Turkey had nothing to do with the Covenant's requirement that the inhabitant of the territories be protected. The Muslims and Christians lost because the Mandatory failed to protect them. The British lost not the Christians and Muslims, they were relying on the rule of law.

Eventually the Jews will be overwhelmed by demographics. I don't think the Jews will fare as well as the white South Africans who came to their senses before they built up too much hate to overcome.

Threatening uncontrolled breeding as a means to overwhelm an existing population is a scare tactic used by Moslems in Europe. Moslems won't fare as well as the white South Africans simply because Moslems tend to find reasons to hate and revile each other along ethnic and religious divisions.

 

[P F Tinmore]

ARTICLE 1
The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications: a ) a permanent population; b ) a defined territory; c ) government; and d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states.

Exactly, and the foreigners declared their state on Palestine's defined territory.

How can something so simple escape you?

foreigners declared their state on Palestine's defined territory.

On the country of Palestine?

On the territory of Palestine which was to have been held in trust for its inhabitants pursuant to Article 22 of the League of Nations.

"ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant."

The people inhabiting the former territory that ceased to be under the sovereignty of the State which formerly governed it (Turkey) were overwhelming Christians and Muslims. The the overwhelming majority of the Zionists weren't inhabitants of Palestine, they inhabited Europe.

On the territory of Palestine

Which was designated for a Jewish homeland.

By foreigners, that was a violation of Palestinian rights and a violation of the LoN Covenant.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Doesn'

Exactly, and the foreigners declared their state on Palestine's defined territory.

How can something so simple escape you?

foreigners declared their state on Palestine's defined territory.

On the country of Palestine?

On the territory of Palestine which was to have been held in trust for its inhabitants pursuant to Article 22 of the League of Nations.

"ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant."

The people inhabiting the former territory that ceased to be under the sovereignty of the State which formerly governed it (Turkey) were overwhelming Christians and Muslims. The the overwhelming majority of the Zionists weren't inhabitants of Palestine, they inhabited Europe.

On the territory of Palestine

Which was designated for a Jewish homeland.

Article 22 doesn't say anything of the sort, nor does it exclude Palestine as one of the former territories. The inhabitants of Palestine, were to have received tutelage (protection) per the Covenant, and the British failed to protect the inhabitants of Palestine.

Losing has consequences. Turkey lost.

Since then, the Arabs kept losing.

Now we'll see how much more the Arabs in the West Bank can lose.
Not looking too good..

The Palestinians never lost a war.

 

[P F Tinmore]

... the British failed to protect the inhabitants of Palestine.

The British were not obligated to "protect" the inhabitants of Palestine (least of all from their own stupidity). They were obligated to put in force the conditions of the Mandate, including the development of the Jewish National Home in order to re-constitute her Nation.

You are trying to put forth the idea that there is something harmful inherent in the idea of a Jewish State. That somehow the idea or the act of being Jewish requires people to be protected from it.

But the well-being and development of the inhabitants was in no way compromised by the formation of the Jewish State. There is nothing to be protected from.

The British failed to establish the Jewish National Home.

The creation of Israel was outside of the planned Jewish National Home and cannot claim legitimacy from the Mandate.

 

[P F Tinmore]

They were obligated to put in force the conditions of the Mandate, including the development of the Jewish National Home in order to re-constitute her Nation.

The Jewish National Home, per the Mandate, was Palestinian citizenship for Jews and independence for Palestine.

The establishment of Israel was a settler colonial project outside of the terms of the Mandate.

 

[Hollie]

Doesn'

foreigners declared their state on Palestine's defined territory.

On the country of Palestine?

On the territory of Palestine which was to have been held in trust for its inhabitants pursuant to Article 22 of the League of Nations.

"ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant."

The people inhabiting the former territory that ceased to be under the sovereignty of the State which formerly governed it (Turkey) were overwhelming Christians and Muslims. The the overwhelming majority of the Zionists weren't inhabitants of Palestine, they inhabited Europe.

On the territory of Palestine

Which was designated for a Jewish homeland.

Article 22 doesn't say anything of the sort, nor does it exclude Palestine as one of the former territories. The inhabitants of Palestine, were to have received tutelage (protection) per the Covenant, and the British failed to protect the inhabitants of Palestine.

Losing has consequences. Turkey lost.

Since then, the Arabs kept losing.

Now we'll see how much more the Arabs in the West Bank can lose.
Not looking too good..

The Palestinians never lost a war.

The "country of Pal'istan"?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Doesn'

foreigners declared their state on Palestine's defined territory.

On the country of Palestine?

On the territory of Palestine which was to have been held in trust for its inhabitants pursuant to Article 22 of the League of Nations.

"ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant."

The people inhabiting the former territory that ceased to be under the sovereignty of the State which formerly governed it (Turkey) were overwhelming Christians and Muslims. The the overwhelming majority of the Zionists weren't inhabitants of Palestine, they inhabited Europe.

On the territory of Palestine

Which was designated for a Jewish homeland.

Article 22 doesn't say anything of the sort, nor does it exclude Palestine as one of the former territories. The inhabitants of Palestine, were to have received tutelage (protection) per the Covenant, and the British failed to protect the inhabitants of Palestine.

Losing has consequences. Turkey lost.

Since then, the Arabs kept losing.

Now we'll see how much more the Arabs in the West Bank can lose.
Not looking too good..

The Palestinians never lost a war.

And their land was never occupied. Glad we got that cleared up.

 

[louie888]

The Israeli State Archives has just released the protocol of a cabinet meeting from 1983 in which bloated Israeli war pig Ariel Sharon shows his fear of the exposure of Israel’s coordination with a Christian Lebanese militia to commit genocide against the Palestinian people in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps.

Sharon Feared Exposure of Israeli Genocide

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Israeli State Archives has just released the protocol of a cabinet meeting from 1983 in which bloated Israeli war pig Ariel Sharon shows his fear of the exposure of Israel’s coordination with a Christian Lebanese militia to commit genocide against the Palestinian people in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps.

Sharon Feared Exposure of Israeli Genocide

It is common knowledge that the Phalangists were allied with Israel. Israel wanted to put them in power so that Israel could have a friendly Christian government in Lebanon.

 

[Hollie]

The Israeli State Archives has just released the protocol of a cabinet meeting from 1983 in which bloated Israeli war pig Ariel Sharon shows his fear of the exposure of Israel’s coordination with a Christian Lebanese militia to commit genocide against the Palestinian people in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps.

Sharon Feared Exposure of Israeli Genocide

It is common knowledge that the Phalangists were allied with Israel. Israel wanted to put them in power so that Israel could have a friendly Christian government in Lebanon.

The conspiracy theory groupies have converged.

 

[louie888]

But nooooooooooo, that doesn't speak to the ethnic cleansing.

 

[louie888]

Palestine 2007: Genocide in Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing in the West Bank
Ilan Pappe

On this stage, not so long ago, I claimed that Israel is conducting genocidal policies in the Gaza Strip. I hesitated a lot before using this very charged term and yet decided to adopt it. Indeed, the responses I received, including from some leading human rights activists, indicated a certain unease over the usage of such a term. I was inclined to rethink the term for a while, but came back to employing it today with even stronger conviction: it is the only appropriate way to describe what the Israeli army is doing in the Gaza Strip....

Palestine 2007: Genocide in Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing in the West Bank

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Palestine 2007: Genocide in Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing in the West Bank
Ilan Pappe

On this stage, not so long ago, I claimed that Israel is conducting genocidal policies in the Gaza Strip. I hesitated a lot before using this very charged term and yet decided to adopt it. Indeed, the responses I received, including from some leading human rights activists, indicated a certain unease over the usage of such a term. I was inclined to rethink the term for a while, but came back to employing it today with even stronger conviction: it is the only appropriate way to describe what the Israeli army is doing in the Gaza Strip....

Palestine 2007: Genocide in Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing in the West Bank

Well, you're a moron.........

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Palestine 2007: Genocide in Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing in the West Bank
Ilan Pappe

On this stage, not so long ago, I claimed that Israel is conducting genocidal policies in the Gaza Strip. I hesitated a lot before using this very charged term and yet decided to adopt it. Indeed, the responses I received, including from some leading human rights activists, indicated a certain unease over the usage of such a term. I was inclined to rethink the term for a while, but came back to employing it today with even stronger conviction: it is the only appropriate way to describe what the Israeli army is doing in the Gaza Strip....

Palestine 2007: Genocide in Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing in the West Bank

Well, you're a moron.........

Not only is he a moron, but he claims to be a Jew, Gd forbid. I don't believe that though.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

The Israeli State Archives has just released the protocol of a cabinet meeting from 1983 in which bloated Israeli war pig Ariel Sharon shows his fear of the exposure of Israel’s coordination with a Christian Lebanese militia to commit genocide against the Palestinian people in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps.

Sharon Feared Exposure of Israeli Genocide

It is common knowledge that the Phalangists were allied with Israel. Israel wanted to put them in power so that Israel could have a friendly Christian government in Lebanon.

Yes, Allah forbid that there should be a Christian or Jewish government in the Middle East. Lebanon, once the Christian Monte Carlo of the Mideast, is now controlled by Hezbollah and Iran.

 

[louie888]

...he claims to be a Jew, Gd forbid. I don't believe that though.

You act like a Jew can't be honest. You are the anti-Semite. I was taught growing up that if honest nazis had stepped up, that much of that horror could have been avoided. Now, it happens to be Jews on the wrong side of humanity and your false charges of antisemitism are all you can muster,.

Be a man, call a spade a spade, and together we can end this madness.