And an open discussion for all. Ok, so I hear at least once a day some woman talk about how men don't know pain this, and labor that, and how it's the most painful thing anybody could possibly go through, and men are all wimps because they complain about things like broken legs and shattered testicles. So, my question is, is it really all that bad? My mom, who gave birth to two children with no painkillers, says no. Her theory is that the Hollywood types saw births by women who were on twilight, which dopes you up so you don't remember anything, but makes you crazy while you're on it. They saw the woman yelling and screaming and throwing things and cursing and all this crap, so they always depict childbirth that way on TV (when using this drug, the mother's perspective is waking up in the hospital bed and asking how the baby's doing). Then, the feminist movement picked this whole thing up and used it to call men wusses. Now, she does say that, yes, labor is *quite* uncomfortable, but not as much as a migraine. However, she says maybe it varies from person to person and that just because it wasn't that bad for hear doesn't meant that it isn't that bad for everyone, so I'm just curious. And be honest.