A question for conservatives and Trump supporters.

[Lincoln1976]

Now that is interesting! so,you belief that a globalist "Free market" is the way to go,eh?

well,it has done a great job in destroying Europe so far and no end in sight....it has catapulted China into the modern area,while the west has lost huge numbers of jobs and quite frankly wealth.

Now tell me: how can you compete with Chinese slave worker? do you stay at work for 18 hours and sleep in dormatories in the factory? do you work thousands of miles away from home and only visit your family once or twice a year?

Serpenza,the South African guy in China,had the clutch on his motorbike replaced and he filmed it.He noted that the job has cost him 20 RMB and that money was only payed for the parts...he didn't pay for the labor cost in China,blue collar labor isn't being charged....labor is worthless...can you compete with that?

The left and economics...just doesn't fit

I don't really give much of a shit about nation-states and governments. Mostly just there to herd people into pens so the banksters can fleece them. Fuck. That. Shit.

that's a fairly simplistic and unrealistic view.Modern humanity relies on the nation state and it's predecessors.Not so much of a fleecing,but a simple necessity to challenges to people's ways of life through the centuries.
That's why ALL humans on earth independant from each other came up with similar ideas which more or less resembled a nation state.African tribes,Chinese or Aztech empires all came into being,because people have a yearning to preserve their way of life...anarchy doesn't do that,sorry

Excuses.

That is a stupid answer...meaningless and stupid.

So,when you write that your alligiance is to your country and your community and society...what do you mean by that?
That is the definition of nationalism which is fine...being dishonest about that is crap.

No, it's not. Government is not society. It's our security guard, nothing more. Society is much larger than government and operates largely independent of the ambitions of politicians.

I think you're very confused young man...

You don't seem confused. But you're mistaken. Nationalism isn't a good thing.

No, it's not. Government is not society. It's our security guard, nothing more. Society is much larger than government and operates largely independent of the ambitions of politicians.

I wasn't referring to government,but the nation State...sure,one combines the other,yet to point to a government and pull a of ones arse...well,not very convincing,is it?!

"You don't seem confused. But you're mistaken. Nationalism isn't a good thing"
Wrong! nationalism is what keep societies together...without it,well all you have is something like the EU...a dying fascist construct which works against it's own people.

But don't let me stop you from explaining,WHY nationalism isn't a good thing....I am all ears

 

[the other mike]

nope,not the title...your contributions so far...that near sighted BS babble and excuses for Obimbo while completley missing the point (on purpose may I add) of the trade war.

in short: the complete disconnection from reality make very strong indicators of your leftist view points...it has to be determined,just HOW barking mad you are...the further left,the more rabid (in an animal sense) you are...so,I am curious

So you generally don't know anything about me, you see everything through a little authoritarian window
someone gave you and think you're some kind of outsider- patriotic American who "stands by Trump" no matter what and hated Obama and the Clintons , etc....I get it. Straight from the Heritage Foundation playbook. Another mindless sheep doing someone's dirty work,

 

[dblack]

I wasn't referring to government,but the nation State...sure,one combines the other,yet to point to a government and pull a of ones arse...well,not very convincing,is it?!

I have no idea what that means. And your habit of not putting spaces after commas makes it (even more) painful to read.

But don't let me stop you from explaining,WHY nationalism isn't a good thing....I am all ears

Because it favors state power over individual rights.

 

[Lincoln1976]

nope,not the title...your contributions so far...that near sighted BS babble and excuses for Obimbo while completley missing the point (on purpose may I add) of the trade war.

in short: the complete disconnection from reality make very strong indicators of your leftist view points...it has to be determined,just HOW barking mad you are...the further left,the more rabid (in an animal sense) you are...so,I am curious

So you generally don't know anything about me, you see everything through a little authoritarian window
someone gave you and think you're some kind of outsider- patriotic American who "stands by Trump" no matter what and hated Obama and the Clintons , etc....I get it. Straight from the Heritage Foundation playbook. Another mindless sheep doing someone's dirty work,

well,you mindless sheep,YOU know nothing about me...I used to support Obummer..I used to be left...surprise! and I have come across so many leftists now,who belief they know everything that it really isn't that hard to name one and I see one....

President trump might have his flaws and you know what? in the beginning I wasn't convinced of him at all....but he has proven me wrong and the issues,he has risen,have shown to be the core issues who need to be addressed in order for western culture and society to survive.

I have been around the world..literally...I have lived in Canada,Australia and Europe and what I have seen and wittnessed now,in these past years,has opened my eyes.

A rat is a rat and boy,do we have many rats now in our midst...the elite rats have turned an army of NPC idiots into willful shouters for whom NOTHING is sacred or off limits...open borders? no problem? socialism? yes,bring it on!...and the sad part is,that we KNOW how these things end,cause we have proof around the world of thier failure...

the trade war...how come we allow rich elites and their political cronies to bankcrupt us? to sell us out to a foreign power? a power which is fascist in nature?

wasn't just obummer...george the lesser was just as bad....wild bill never had a problem with it either..pitting American or European worker against slave worker in China...yeah,that's a really smart idea and I've blamed for a long time republicans for allowing that,yet Mr Kenia didn't do anything about it either...more the opposite! that twat acted EXACTLY like a European politician! you know,the scum that has been destroying Europe for the past 30 years

 

[Lincoln1976]

I wasn't referring to government,but the nation State...sure,one combines the other,yet to point to a government and pull a of ones arse...well,not very convincing,is it?!

I have no idea what that means. And your habit of not putting spaces after commas makes it (even more) painful to read.

But don't let me stop you from explaining,WHY nationalism isn't a good thing....I am all ears

Because it favors state power over individual rights.

does it? well I disagree! it garantees the rights of the individual in the context of the society..sorry dude,if you want to be Grizzly Adams,that's a bit unrealistic,isn't it?

So,if everyone just wants to speak whatever language they like..how is that going to work?
or the definition of crime?

"And your habit of not putting spaces after commas makes it (even more) painful to read."
deal with it! it's my personal right!

 

[dblack]

"And your habit of not putting spaces after commas makes it (even more) painful to read."
deal with it! it's my personal right!

Of course it is. But I'm not wading through a bunch of incoherent sentences.

 

[caddo kid]

Trump has something in common with our farmers now- bankruptcy.

The majority of farmers voted for Trump. I hope they remember who fucked them. The guy they voted for.
Thoughts & prayers.