a question about right-wing governments

[Katzndogz]

how would marriage equality destroy america?

It destroyed every other society that normalized the practice. It's toxic. It is an acceptance that depravity is normal. When started, the trend never stops until the society is fully decayed and corrupt.

you have documentation proving this? or is just an opinion?

The historical record is pretty clear. The mainstreaming of homosexuality became an accepted practice of many civiilizations, Egypt, Rome, Greece. That value was never passed along as beneficial to any succeeding civilization. If it had been, same sex marriage would have been an accepted practice for thousands of years and we wouldn't be talking about it now.

 

[Swagger]

OP needs to outline what he thinks are Republican positions.

ahh..sorry shouldnt assume folks will just know what i mean

small gov/anti-tax/anti-abortion/anti-marriage equality/cutting medicare/medicaid/low regulation..

stuff like that..

is there a government out there with similar positions that actually works well?

and the op is a 'she'

There was. It was called the Thatcher government. And the United Kingdom thrived under it.

 

[rabbitthekitten]

OP needs to outline what he thinks are Republican positions.

ahh..sorry shouldnt assume folks will just know what i mean

small gov/anti-tax/anti-abortion/anti-marriage equality/cutting medicare/medicaid/low regulation..

stuff like that..

is there a government out there with similar positions that actually works well?

and the op is a 'she'

There was. It was called the Thatcher government. And the United Kingdom thrived under it.

And laid the foundations for the banking crisis.

 

[Neurotika]

ack..gotta get used to the posting formats here..nm

 

[Neurotika]

It destroyed every other society that normalized the practice. It's toxic. It is an acceptance that depravity is normal. When started, the trend never stops until the society is fully decayed and corrupt.

you have documentation proving this? or is just an opinion?

The historical record is pretty clear. The mainstreaming of homosexuality became an accepted practice of many civiilizations, Egypt, Rome, Greece. That value was never passed along as beneficial to any succeeding civilization. If it had been, same sex marriage would have been an accepted practice for thousands of years and we wouldn't be talking about it now.

in what way are homosexuals 'depraved'?

and im looking more for some modern study/documentations/studies which would prove that homosexuals would 'decay and corrupt' modern america. something scientific as opposed to 'ideological or religious'.. or the vague 'historical record'.

 

[Swagger]

ahh..sorry shouldnt assume folks will just know what i mean

small gov/anti-tax/anti-abortion/anti-marriage equality/cutting medicare/medicaid/low regulation..

stuff like that..

is there a government out there with similar positions that actually works well?

and the op is a 'she'

There was. It was called the Thatcher government. And the United Kingdom thrived under it.

And laid the foundations for the banking crisis.

Er, no, it didn't. It deregulated the banks.

 

[Truthmatters]

they have nothing but right wing myths to answer with

 

[rabbitthekitten]

There was. It was called the Thatcher government. And the United Kingdom thrived under it.

And laid the foundations for the banking crisis.

Er, no, it didn't. It deregulated the banks.

Which allowed casino banking. I'm a Tory and I recognise it. It was Labour going beserk with public spending that caused the current mess. But the original banking crisis in 2008 was caused by deregulation.

 

[Neurotika]

OP needs to outline what he thinks are Republican positions.

ahh..sorry shouldnt assume folks will just know what i mean

small gov/anti-tax/anti-abortion/anti-marriage equality/cutting medicare/medicaid/low regulation..

stuff like that..

is there a government out there with similar positions that actually works well?

and the op is a 'she'

There was. It was called the Thatcher government. And the United Kingdom thrived under it.

i dont know much about her so i did a quick wiki..

according to this she raised taxes in 1980 in the midst of a recession?[under economy and taxation]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher#Domestic_affairs

 

[midcan5]

is there a country out there now or in the past that has been successful in implementing positions similar to the american republican party? that has been both financially and socially successful?

admittedly, im only interested in politics for a few years so i welcome a discussion on the viability of such policies as recommended by the republican party.

EDIT: my impression of republican positions..sorry didnt add that before.

small gov/anti-tax/anti-abortion/anti-marriage equality/cutting medicare/medicaid/low regulation..

The trouble with your question is while these topics are used as ammo they do not form a consistent view of either politics or reality. Take the first one, Reagan and Bush II grew the government even though you'd never know it. Saudi Arabia may qualify as right wing, but healthcare is provided. Once you specify something the problems begin, for how does one define regulatory issues? I'm curious to see if any republican can provide a substantive answer?

If you are interested in understanding republican, aka conservative, politics the following are excellent.

'Invisible Hands: The Making of the Conservative Movement from the New Deal to Reagan' Kim Phillips-Fein
'The Rhetoric of Reaction: Perversity, Futility, Jeopardy' Albert O. Hirschman
'The Reactionary Mind: Conservatism from Edmund Burke to Sarah Palin' Corey Robin
'The Culture of Contentment' John Kenneth Galbraith
'Ill Fares the Land' Tony Judt

"Republicans approve of the American farmer, but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four-square for the American home -but not for housing. They are strong for labor - but they are stronger for restricting labor's rights. They favor minimum wage - the smaller the minimum wage the better. They endorse educational opportunity for all - but they won't spend money for teachers or for schools. They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine - for people who can afford them. They consider electrical power a great blessing - but only when the private power companies get their rake-off. They think American standard of living is a fine thing - so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it." Harry S. Truman

 

[Neurotika]

lots of info there and reading Midcan..thanks !!

 

[blackhawk]

Like most policies Republican and Democrat some work some don't some work better than other's you should also take a look at some of the countries that have gone by what could be described as left wing government policies of big spending and massive entitlements Greece being the most well known but several other European countries as well and see how successful they have been.

 

[Neurotika]

Like most policies Republican and Democrat some work some don't some work better than other's you should also take a look at some of the countries that have gone by what could be described as left wing government policies of big spending and massive entitlements Greece being the most well known but several other European countries as well and see how successful they have been.

norway/sweden and iceland come to mind..they do quite well as i understand it?

 

[rabbitthekitten]

Like most policies Republican and Democrat some work some don't some work better than other's you should also take a look at some of the countries that have gone by what could be described as left wing government policies of big spending and massive entitlements Greece being the most well known but several other European countries as well and see how successful they have been.

norway/sweden and iceland come to mind..they do quite well as i understand it?

I don't know about Iceland and Norway. But Sweden has high taxes and high spending. But not much is nationalised, it's private enterprise but the government pays for it. They have free health and education for all. Low defence spending. It's a mix of left and right policies.

 

[Neurotika]

Like most policies Republican and Democrat some work some don't some work better than other's you should also take a look at some of the countries that have gone by what could be described as left wing government policies of big spending and massive entitlements Greece being the most well known but several other European countries as well and see how successful they have been.

norway/sweden and iceland come to mind..they do quite well as i understand it?

I don't know about Iceland and Norway. But Sweden has high taxes and high spending. But not much is nationalised, it's private enterprise but the government pays for it. They have free health and education for all. Low defence spending. It's a mix of left and right policies.

seems the balanced approach is best to me.

 

[rabbitthekitten]

norway/sweden and iceland come to mind..they do quite well as i understand it?

I don't know about Iceland and Norway. But Sweden has high taxes and high spending. But not much is nationalised, it's private enterprise but the government pays for it. They have free health and education for all. Low defence spending. It's a mix of left and right policies.

seems the balanced approach is best to me.

It generally is. But the USA doesn't have a left wing mainstream party. The democrats are centrist at best. The republicans can't go much more right wing.

 

[blackhawk]

Like most policies Republican and Democrat some work some don't some work better than other's you should also take a look at some of the countries that have gone by what could be described as left wing government policies of big spending and massive entitlements Greece being the most well known but several other European countries as well and see how successful they have been.

norway/sweden and iceland come to mind..they do quite well as i understand it?

Another thing you have to take into consideration is the population of a country as well what might work for countries with populations the size of Norway or Sweden probably wont work or at least not work as well with a population the size of the U.S.

 

[Neurotika]

Like most policies Republican and Democrat some work some don't some work better than other's you should also take a look at some of the countries that have gone by what could be described as left wing government policies of big spending and massive entitlements Greece being the most well known but several other European countries as well and see how successful they have been.

norway/sweden and iceland come to mind..they do quite well as i understand it?

Another thing you have to take into consideration is the population of a country as well what might work for countries with populations the size of Norway or Sweden probably wont work or at least not work as well with a population the size of the U.S.

good point. i would think in instances like iceland going after the banks instead of bailing them out would be nice to see though..

i would love a president/government with a spine against corruption.

 

[rabbitthekitten]

norway/sweden and iceland come to mind..they do quite well as i understand it?

Another thing you have to take into consideration is the population of a country as well what might work for countries with populations the size of Norway or Sweden probably wont work or at least not work as well with a population the size of the U.S.

good point. i would think in instances like iceland going after the banks instead of bailing them out would be nice to see though..

i would love a president/government with a spine against corruption.

Unfortunately in the US politics is dominated by money. Money comes from big business. No one is going to try and stamp out corporate greed because it will cause donations to stop. The way employers treat workers in the US is shocking. In my case for example, I get paid the same as an American with a similar job, but I get six weeks paid holiday a year and I work a 37 hour week.

 

[FA_Q2]

I don't know about Iceland and Norway. But Sweden has high taxes and high spending. But not much is nationalised, it's private enterprise but the government pays for it. They have free health and education for all. Low defence spending. It's a mix of left and right policies.

seems the balanced approach is best to me.

It generally is. But the USA doesn't have a left wing mainstream party. The democrats are centrist at best. The republicans can't go much more right wing.

That is absolutely false. I am not really going to address your statement that the democrats are not ‘left’ enough but as far as the right being ultimate right wing – they are barely right at all. There are some SOCAL issues that they get big headlines with (but never actually pass any real laws) but as far as general conservative policy goes, there is none. Just look at the last presidency. We got larger more intrusive government and bank bailouts. The only thing that the republicans seem to have down pat is lower tax rates. Tax rates that are completely unconnected to the larger picture: spending. We no longer have a right wing party. I would assume that many of the problems I have with the ‘right’ are the same type of problems that make you call the democrats ‘centrist.’ Don’t fool yourself. The democrats are no more divorced from their ideals than the right is.

first, thanks so huge for adding this section..i wasnt a frequent poster here but i did lurk..but was turned off by all the hateful crap i saw in every post..so i appreciate this and i read this forum now more than i did before. im hoping to participate more in the future

my question is:

is there a country out there now or in the past that has been successful in implementing
positions similar to the american republican party? that has been both financially and socially
successful?

admittedly, im only interested in politics for a few years so i welcome a discussion on the viability of such policies as recommended by the republican party.

thanks all.

EDIT: my impression of republican positions..sorry didnt add that before.

small gov/anti-tax/anti-abortion/anti-marriage equality/cutting medicare/medicaid/low regulation..

The best answer (and one that was given earlier) is America. America was hugely successful and was founded on a small government/low taxes. Abortion and gay marriage are social issues that have nothing to do with prosperity in general.