A President Represents all Americans..

[WillowTree]

Who said that? Oh, right- you're just making shit up.

again.

There are already programs for all disadvantaged students. They don't need one specifically for blacks. If blacks are not benefitting from the usual programs, analyze the problem and deal with it in the standard programs so it will help all of the less performing students. Doesn't that make sense? And less costly and less discriminatory.

There are unique challenges in education in the black community. This Excellence in Education program seeks to overcome some of those unique challenges. It's not all that different than money dedicated to rural education efforts or rural poverty - which is overwhelmingly a white problem.

Yes, and the first thing they need to learn is who the baby daddy!

 

[naturegirl]

There are unique challenges in education in the black community. This Excellence in Education program seeks to overcome some of those unique challenges. It's not all that different than money dedicated to rural education efforts or rural poverty - which is overwhelmingly a white problem.

What are those unique challenges?

1) Generational urban poverty, in part due to government programs specifically designed to allow whites to move into suburbs while blacks could not.

2) Failing family structures and very high levels of poverty among single mothers and children.

3) A family focus on safety and protection over education and advancement.

The programs the administration is proposing help overcome these challenges.

I've got news for you, these "challenges" aren't unique to black families.

I have to laugh at #1, government programs used to allow all races the opportunity to move out, until the Dems decided to keep blacks in poverty to get their vote. I know many black families that lived in poverty in the 60s that now live in the suburbs. Since the Dems captured them, not so much.

Read my signature!!

 

[8537]

What are those unique challenges?

1) Generational urban poverty, in part due to government programs specifically designed to allow whites to move into suburbs while blacks could not.

2) Failing family structures and very high levels of poverty among single mothers and children.

3) A family focus on safety and protection over education and advancement.

The programs the administration is proposing help overcome these challenges.

I've got news for you, these "challenges" aren't unique to black families.

I have to laugh at #1, government programs used to allow all races the opportunity to move out, until the Dems decided to keep blacks in poverty to get their vote. I know many black families es that lived in poverty in the 60s that now live in the suburbs. Since the Dems captured them, not so much.

Read my signature!!

Lol.

So you agree that blacks were barred from suburban development and from access to the wealth building that comes along with creations such as the low down payment 30-yr mortgage, but you deny such a long history of racism could possibly have any impact today?

OK then.

 

[naturegirl]

1) Generational urban poverty, in part due to government programs specifically designed to allow whites to move into suburbs while blacks could not.

2) Failing family structures and very high levels of poverty among single mothers and children.

3) A family focus on safety and protection over education and advancement.

The programs the administration is proposing help overcome these challenges.

I've got news for you, these "challenges" aren't unique to black families.

I have to laugh at #1, government programs used to allow all races the opportunity to move out, until the Dems decided to keep blacks in poverty to get their vote. I know many black families es that lived in poverty in the 60s that now live in the suburbs. Since the Dems captured them, not so much.

Read my signature!!

Lol.

So you agree that blacks were barred from suburban development and from access to the wealth building that comes along with creations such as the low down payment 30-yr mortgage, but you deny such a long history of racism could possibly have any impact today?

OK then.

Quit lying, I said none of that. In fact there were many black families that qualified for low down payments on 30 yr mortgages. You know that and so do I. Quit twisting my words to suit your agenda.

 

[8537]

I've got news for you, these "challenges" aren't unique to black families.

I have to laugh at #1, government programs used to allow all races the opportunity to move out, until the Dems decided to keep blacks in poverty to get their vote. I know many black families es that lived in poverty in the 60s that now live in the suburbs. Since the Dems captured them, not so much.

Read my signature!!

Lol.

So you agree that blacks were barred from suburban development and from access to the wealth building that comes along with creations such as the low down payment 30-yr mortgage, but you deny such a long history of racism could possibly have any impact today?

OK then.

Quit lying, I said none of that. In fact there were many black families that qualified for low down payments on 30 yr mortgages.

Not before 1968 there weren't. The federal housing programs that created the 30 yr, low-down payment mortgage and the suburban single family development patterns so ubiquitous across America specifically barred blacks.

 

[Vel]

There are unique challenges in education in the black community. This Excellence in Education program seeks to overcome some of those unique challenges. It's not all that different than money dedicated to rural education efforts or rural poverty - which is overwhelmingly a white problem.

What are those unique challenges?

1) Generational urban poverty, in part due to government programs specifically designed to allow whites to move into suburbs while blacks could not.

What government programs allowed whites to move and made blacks stay?

2) Failing family structures and very high levels of poverty among single mothers and children.

The failing family structure is causation for the high levels of poverty in single mother headed homes. The government perpetuates the problem by allowing the taxpayers to function as the "family" breadwinner. And that issue deserves a thread of it's own.

3) A family focus on safety and protection over education and advancement.
What? Please explain.

The programs the administration is proposing help overcome these challenges.

What school programs do you see being able to overcome these things that haven't already been tried? The school system wasn't designed to overcome bad parenting.

 

[naturegirl]

Lol.

So you agree that blacks were barred from suburban development and from access to the wealth building that comes along with creations such as the low down payment 30-yr mortgage, but you deny such a long history of racism could possibly have any impact today?

OK then.

Quit lying, I said none of that. In fact there were many black families that qualified for low down payments on 30 yr mortgages.

Not before 1968 there weren't. The federal housing programs that created the 30 yr, low-down payment mortgage and the suburban single family development patterns so ubiquitous across America specifically barred blacks.

I guess your comprehension skills are a little lacking. I said since the 60s when the Republicans fought tooth and nail for Civil Rights. The Republicans had many programs for poor families to get out of poverty. Education and job placement was a program designed to get them in to those homes. My family was a recipient of those programs. It got us off welfare and living in the suburbs. We never owned our own home. It was after the Republicans won the Civil Rights battle the Dems started to figure out how to keep them totally dependent to ensure their vote.

 

[8537]

What are those unique challenges?

1) Generational urban poverty, in part due to government programs specifically designed to allow whites to move into suburbs while blacks could not.

What government programs allowed whites to move and made blacks stay?

Fannie Mae, the Federal Housing Authority, a variety of communities that expressly banne blacks...

2) Failing family structures and very high levels of poverty among single mothers and children.

The failing family structure is causation for the high levels of poverty in single mother headed homes. The government perpetuates the problem by allowing the taxpayers to function as the "family" breadwinner. And that issue deserves a thread of it's own.

The government is not the family breadwinner.

3) A family focus on safety and protection over education and advancement.
What? Please explain.

After decades of high crime rates and poverty, many families in urban areas have been conditioned to focus on keeping their children safe and protecting them over all else, which includes a lack of fostering a need for education. This isn't some crazy notion - it's been written about in social science for decades. It's the difference between a family structure designed to keep a child safe vs. a family structure designed to promote enrichment and advancement. It's a serious problem.

 

[8537]

Quit lying, I said none of that. In fact there were many black families that qualified for low down payments on 30 yr mortgages.

Not before 1968 there weren't. The federal housing programs that created the 30 yr, low-down payment mortgage and the suburban single family development patterns so ubiquitous across America specifically barred blacks.

I guess your comprehension skills are a little lacking. I said since the 60s when the Republicans fought tooth and nail for Civil Rights. The Republicans had many programs for poor families to get out of poverty. Education and job placement was a program designed to get them in to those homes. My family was a recipient of those programs. It got us off welfare and living in the suburbs. We never owned our own home. It was after the Republicans won the Civil Rights battle the Dems started to figure out how to keep them totally dependent to ensure their vote.

Lol...The Republicans won the civil rights battle!

Here's a history lesson for ya: The civil rights act passed on geographic lines, not party lines. Southerners voted against, northerners voted in support.

By 1968, the updated Civil Rights act was sponsored and fostered by Democrats.

 

[naturegirl]

Not before 1968 there weren't. The federal housing programs that created the 30 yr, low-down payment mortgage and the suburban single family development patterns so ubiquitous across America specifically barred blacks.

I guess your comprehension skills are a little lacking. I said since the 60s when the Republicans fought tooth and nail for Civil Rights. The Republicans had many programs for poor families to get out of poverty. Education and job placement was a program designed to get them in to those homes. My family was a recipient of those programs. It got us off welfare and living in the suburbs. We never owned our own home. It was after the Republicans won the Civil Rights battle the Dems started to figure out how to keep them totally dependent to ensure their vote.

Lol...The Republicans won the civil rights battle!

Here's a history lesson for ya: The civil rights act passed on geographic lines, not party lines. Southerners voted against, northerners voted in support.

By 1968, the updated Civil Rights act was sponsored and fostered by Democrats.

hahahahahaha and Nixon did nothing for Civil Rights, huh?? You realize those "Democrats" were the arm of the Republican party that wanted to keep blacks repressed, they changed their political affiliation when they saw the Republicans wanted equal rights for everyone.

You see, I lived it in Chicago, in the ghettos. We got out because my single mom realized it was necessary for us to survive. Thank God the government allowed us to do that through the WIN program. True story.

 

[8537]

I guess your comprehension skills are a little lacking. I said since the 60s when the Republicans fought tooth and nail for Civil Rights. The Republicans had many programs for poor families to get out of poverty. Education and job placement was a program designed to get them in to those homes. My family was a recipient of those programs. It got us off welfare and living in the suburbs. We never owned our own home. It was after the Republicans won the Civil Rights battle the Dems started to figure out how to keep them totally dependent to ensure their vote.

Lol...The Republicans won the civil rights battle!

Here's a history lesson for ya: The civil rights act passed on geographic lines, not party lines. Southerners voted against, northerners voted in support.

By 1968, the updated Civil Rights act was sponsored and fostered by Democrats.

hahahahahaha and Nixon did nothing for Civil Rights, huh??

What did Nixon do for Civil Rights?

You realize those "Democrats" were the arm of the Republican party that wanted to keep blacks repressed,

What in the wide world of sports are you talking about?

Hint: Democrats sponsored the 1968 Civil Rights Act.

 

[naturegirl]

Lol...The Republicans won the civil rights battle!

Here's a history lesson for ya: The civil rights act passed on geographic lines, not party lines. Southerners voted against, northerners voted in support.

By 1968, the updated Civil Rights act was sponsored and fostered by Democrats.

hahahahahaha and Nixon did nothing for Civil Rights, huh??

What did Nixon do for Civil Rights?

You realize those "Democrats" were the arm of the Republican party that wanted to keep blacks repressed,

What in the wide world of sports are you talking about?

Hint: Democrats sponsored the 1968 Civil Rights Act.

So tell me which political party did MLK align with??

 

[Full-Auto]

Do you believe Obama has lived up to that aspiration?


As a conservative, I'd say pretty well nope, in fact, mostly the opposite.

Other than sitting at the White House while Bin Laden was whacked, I'm kinda at a loss to remember anything he's accomplished correctly for conservatives....

No..........

 

[paulitician]

He's only President of the Blue States. He's lawlessly and recklessly undermining Arizona, trying to convert it to a criminal filled Blue State like he promised to do to Texas

Sadly, this is accurate. How many States is he currently suing? He has attacked his fellow Americans since the day he took office. Hopefully, Americans will choose a different path in November. We'll see i guess.

 

[WillowTree]

He's only President of the Blue States. He's lawlessly and recklessly undermining Arizona, trying to convert it to a criminal filled Blue State like he promised to do to Texas

Sadly, this is accurate. How many States is he currently suing? He has attacked his fellow Americans since the day he took office. Hopefully, Americans will choose a different path in November. We'll see i guess.

Ohio
Arizona
Texas
Florida
Georgia
Louisiana
Alabama?

North and South Carolina

 

[paulitician]

He's only President of the Blue States. He's lawlessly and recklessly undermining Arizona, trying to convert it to a criminal filled Blue State like he promised to do to Texas

Sadly, this is accurate. How many States is he currently suing? He has attacked his fellow Americans since the day he took office. Hopefully, Americans will choose a different path in November. We'll see i guess.

Ohio
Arizona
Texas
Florida
Georgia
Louisiana
Alabama?

What a sad sad shame. He declared War on his fellow Citizens from day one. But i guess we should have expected that. He is a career 'Community Organizer' after all. And Divide & Conquer is just what they do.

 

[8537]

So tell me which political party did MLK align with??

The famous one, MLK Jr.?

He was an extremely liberal Democrat and more.

 

[naturegirl]

So tell me which political party did MLK align with??

The famous one, MLK Jr.?

He was an extremely liberal Democrat and more.

You do not have the right to re-write history.

It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S’s: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism.

It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860s, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950s and 1960s.

Why Martin Luther King Was Republican | Conservative News, Views & Books

http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/Videos

 

[Darkwind]

In a word..yes.

Each and every initative that the President has pushed, included conservative input.

Conservatives use to be for eliminating terrorists like Osama Bin Laden.
Conservatives use to be for the indivdual mandate.
Conservatives use to be for fiscal sanity.

Even the stimulus package had a good amount of conservative input. The size and scope were outlined by conservatives. After 2010..Obama extended the Bush tax cuts..in deference to Conservatives.

The underlying problem that Obama has just come to realize is that conservatives simply will not tolerate anyone else but a conservative in the White House.

They impeached the last President who was not a Conservative.

All true except for the last line; they impeached the last President that was not a Republican.

Anyone who lays all of the blame at the feet of Obama for not bringing TWO sides together--TWO being the operative word there--is not telling the whole story.

I think the American people understand that and this is why Obama is getting his 2nd term.

Nothing that shallow posted is true. Its amazing how partisan you people are.

Bringing people together requires meeting in the middle. Not demanding you come to My side and then make accusations when they only come part way.

 

[candycorn]

In a word..yes.

Each and every initative that the President has pushed, included conservative input.

Conservatives use to be for eliminating terrorists like Osama Bin Laden.
Conservatives use to be for the indivdual mandate.
Conservatives use to be for fiscal sanity.

Even the stimulus package had a good amount of conservative input. The size and scope were outlined by conservatives. After 2010..Obama extended the Bush tax cuts..in deference to Conservatives.

The underlying problem that Obama has just come to realize is that conservatives simply will not tolerate anyone else but a conservative in the White House.

They impeached the last President who was not a Conservative.

All true except for the last line; they impeached the last President that was not a Republican.

Anyone who lays all of the blame at the feet of Obama for not bringing TWO sides together--TWO being the operative word there--is not telling the whole story.

I think the American people understand that and this is why Obama is getting his 2nd term.

Nothing that shallow posted is true. Its amazing how partisan you people are.

They didn't impeach Clinton? History books disagree with you.

Bringing people together requires meeting in the middle. Not demanding you come to My side and then make accusations when they only come part way.

Yeah as was demonstrated by "You're either with us or with the terrorists."

Did you have a point other than to make yourself look silly?