A possible way the Death Panels might work ?

There is no such thing as death panels. And people that persist in saying there are are making complete fools of themselves. I'm embarrassed for you.

Feel anyway you want but realize you ain't important enough to matter.

You would not have the slightest idea how important I am, or anybody else for that matter. I'm even more embarrassed for you. That's two dumb statements you've made now. Knowing you, I'm sure you'll shoot for three.

You are not important even if you do have that picture of Bill Clinton which I'm sure makes you feel that way but even if you were "Oval Office Stud" it would make you less important than anyone else.
 
I see we have someone who doesn't understand end of life care.

The bigger problem we have is there are way too many people who want the Federal government to have power over end of life care. Personally, Im not suicidal.

Nope. You are just an idiot.

Dumb as OLD ROCKS,

Sorry Bub.......but the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF US AMERICANS, CATEGORICALLY, AGREE that it is YOU , and OBAMARRHOIDAL STOOGES LIKE YOU.....WHO ARE "JUST IDIOTS".
 
Neotrotsky's usually salubrious contribution:
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"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."

Hitler Speech of May 1, 1927[/QUOTE]
 
This is a prime example of a post from an 'uninformed' citizen. As citizens, we've got to do better on keeping informed as to what the 'reality' of the situation. Insurance companies are already trying to get people's genomes so they can exercise their 'pre-existing condition' rights to not sell insurance to people who will succumb to some sort of genetic condition.

Total bullshit. HIPPA already has protections built in for group plans, and no doubt more laws will follow regarding "preexisting conditions". We don't need a Sherman Tank when a flyswatter will do. But what more can we expect from socialist pinheads who'll tolerate any sort of deceit and graft in order to spread their faulty agenda?

Only 10-15% of our population is without coverage. And then, only a fraction are having a "preexisting condition" problem. Medicaid addresses most of that already.

This "preexisting condition" drama is all about trying to scare people into looking the other way while Progressive Fascists make their power-grab.


Bullshit? Have you even read HIPPA?

One of the most important protections under HIPAA is that it helps those with preexisting conditions get health coverage. In the past, some employers' group health plans limited, or even denied, coverage if a new employee had such a condition before enrolling in the plan. Under HIPAA, that is not allowed. If the plan generally provides coverage but denies benefits to you because you had a condition before your coverage began, then HIPAA applies.

Under HIPAA, a plan is allowed to look back only 6 months for a condition that was present before the start of coverage in a group health plan. Specifically, the law says that a preexisting condition exclusion can be imposed on a condition only if medical advice, diagnosis, care, or treatment was recommended or received during the 6 months prior to your enrollment date in the plan. As an example, you may have had arthritis for many years before you came to your current job. If you did not have medical advice, diagnosis, care, or treatment – recommended or received – in the 6 months before you enrolled in the plan, then the prior condition cannot be subject to a preexisting condition exclusion. If you did receive medical advice, diagnosis, care, or treatment within the past 6 months, then the plan may impose a preexisting condition exclusion for that condition (arthritis). In addition, HIPAA prohibits plans from applying a preexisting condition exclusion to pregnancy, genetic information, and certain children.

As for the sob stories about pre-existing conditions:

Last month, I read a letter from Natoma. She's self-employed, trying to make ends meet, and has for years done the responsible thing: buying health insurance through the individual market.

The thing is, sixteen years ago, she was diagnosed with a form of treatable cancer. And even though she had been cancer free for more than a decade, the insurance company kept jacking up her rates anyway, year after year. So she increased her out-of-pocket expenses. She raised her deductible. She was doing everything she could to maintain health insurance that would be there for her in case she got sick.

But even as she upped her deductible to the maximum, last year Natoma's insurance company raised her premiums by more than 25 percent. Over the past year, she paid more than $6,000 in monthly premiums. She paid more than $4,000 out-of-pocket for co-pays, medical care, and prescriptions. So she ponied up more than $10,000 dollars. But because she never hit her deductible, her insurer only spent $900 on her care. And yet what comes in the mail at the end of last year? A letter telling Natoma that her premiums would go up again by more than 40 percent.

HIPPA does nothing to stopping insurance companies from forcing you from their system with continuous and unaffordable rate increases as a way of getting around HIPPA's mild preexisting conditions clause.

So, yes..... you are either uninformed or intentionally misleading. Which is it?
 
What do ya know.... looks like poor Natoma's not going to lose her home afterall. What's more... she's going to get help with her bills. Turns out, that the evil clinic that was treating her, had no intention of taking her house, but rather... was going to provide her with a "personal guide" to help her line up financial assistance. :eusa_whistle:

Natoma Canfield, the cancer-stricken woman who has become a centerpiece of President Obama's push for health care reform, will not lose her home over her medical bills and will probably qualify for financial aid, a top official at the Cleveland medical center treating her told FoxNews.com.

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yman Sornberger, executive director of patient financial services at the Cleveland Clinic, said "all indications" at the outset are that she will be considered for assistance.

"She may be eligible for state Medicaid ... and/or she will be eligible for charity (care) of some form or type. ... In my personal opinion, she will be eligible for something," he said, adding that Canfield should not be worried about losing her home.

"Cleveland Clinic will not put a lien on her home," he said.

Cleveland Clinic offers personal guides to patients like Canfield who are concerned about payment to try to match them up with programs that can provide full or partial assistance. One option is state Medicaid coverage, which Canfield did not have when she was admitted. Another is charity care that is routinely provided by the hospital, which is a nonprofit. Cleveland Clinic reported providing $99 million in charity care in 2008.

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Asked for comment, a representative for Canfield's old insurance company said "the cost of new drugs and hospital stays," along with the trend of healthy individuals dropping coverage, are behind the latest rate increases.

"Our associates ... work tirelessly every day to help ensure members have access to the best health care coverage at the best price," Kim Ashley, public relations director for Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield in Ohio, said in a written statement. She said the company "strongly shares our members' concerns over the rising cost of health care services and the resulting impact on health insurance premiums."

The Obama administration has gone aggressively after Anthem, demanding explanations for similar double-digit rate hikes in California.

FOXNews.com - Clinic: Cancer Patient Who Wrote to Obama Will Not Lose Home, May Get Aid

Note also which insurance company was raising her rate. There's already questions about why Anthem is raising rates across the board. It's a bit of a tough sell that this one customer was singled out due to her medical condition.

But here's a great idea.... why don't we continue to LIMIT how many insurance options a given state citizen can access. That way, people can't shop for better deals. :rolleyes:
 
A possible way the Death er,,,,, Medical Review Boards might work ??

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Hahaha.

This is a funny troll thread.

Bullshit,

TROLL ?!?!?

You're getting into a rut.

As a matter of fact, you, Bullshit, are picking up on the latest "brilliant" Obamarrhoidal repartee for anyone disagreeing with their (your) BULLSHIT (sorry that this word also happens to be your psuedonym).

Do you really think anyone will be impressed by the fact that you consider every one that hurts your demented cause a.......TROLL ?!?!?

PUHLEEEEEEEEZZZZE.........
 
Feel anyway you want but realize you ain't important enough to matter.

You would not have the slightest idea how important I am, or anybody else for that matter. I'm even more embarrassed for you. That's two dumb statements you've made now. Knowing you, I'm sure you'll shoot for three.

You are not important even if you do have that picture of Bill Clinton which I'm sure makes you feel that way but even if you were "Oval Office Stud" it would make you less important than anyone else.

What a stupid post. That's it for this foolishness. Later, dummy.
 
You would not have the slightest idea how important I am, or anybody else for that matter. I'm even more embarrassed for you. That's two dumb statements you've made now. Knowing you, I'm sure you'll shoot for three.

You are not important even if you do have that picture of Bill Clinton which I'm sure makes you feel that way but even if you were "Oval Office Stud" it would make you less important than anyone else.

What a stupid post. That's it for this foolishness. Later, dummy.

I am curious....did you really expect anything else as a response to youir post?

I love how people bait on here and then criticize the response.
 
You are not important even if you do have that picture of Bill Clinton which I'm sure makes you feel that way but even if you were "Oval Office Stud" it would make you less important than anyone else.

What a stupid post. That's it for this foolishness. Later, dummy.

I am curious....did you really expect anything else as a response to youir post?

I love how people bait on here and then criticize the response.

Look baiting up in the dictionary.
 

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