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1. Are we moving toward a nation without the unalienable rights memorialized in the Constitution? Can you imagine a United States President nominating a candidate for the Supreme Court, who opposed the first amendment to the Constitution? Well, one did:

"I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation."

In a 1996 paper, "Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine," Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
That paper asserted First Amendment doctrine is comprised of "motives and ... actions infested with them" and she goes so far as to claim that "First Amendment law is best understood and most readily explained as a kind of motive-hunting."

Kagan's name was also on a brief, United States V. Stevens, dug up by the Washington Examiner, stating: "Whether a given category of speech enjoys First Amendment protection depends upon a categorical balancing of the value of the speech against its societal costs."
If the government doesn't like what you say, Elena Kagan believes it is the duty of courts to tell you to shut up. If some pantywaist is offended by what you say, Elena Kagan believes your words can be "disappeared".
WyBlog -- Elena Kagan's America: some speech can be "disappeared"
Elena Kagan Radical anti-gun nut? « The Daley Gator



2. Progressives don't believe that there are any rights that the government cannot cancel, and we have a President and a Supreme Court Justice who believe in censorship. In fact, this administration seems to have an inordinate 'sensitivity' toward a certain major religion....What happens when we put those two views together?


Oriana Fallaci, was one of the best known of European journalists. In 2006, the ‘New Yorker’ wrote that after 9/11, Fallaci wrote “three short angry books” that “the Western world is in danger of being engulfed by radical Islam.” Life and Letters: The Agitator : The New Yorker

a. In 2002, a French NGO, ‘The Movement Against Racism and Friendship Between Peoples,” tried to get her book ‘The Rage and the Pride,” banned.

b. In 2003, Fallaci was sued in Switzerland by the Islamic Center of Geneva, charging racism. The Swiss judiciary issued an arrest warrant for a criminal trial.

c. In 2005, Fallaci was ordered to stand trial in Italy for “vilification” of Islam. The trial became moot, as she died in 2006 of cancer.





3. In 2008, Brigitte Bardot, actress, was convicted and heavily fined for an open letter to Nicolas Sarkozy, in which she objected to the ritual slaughter of sheep during the Islamic feast of Eid. Is Brigitte Bardot Bashing Islam? - TIME




4. We all recall the reaction of the Muslim world to the publication, in Denmark, of the Mohammed cartoons. At the United Nations….” The U.N. high commissioner for human rights, former Supreme Court of Canada justice Louise Arbour, replied to the OIC, [Organisation of Islamic Cooperation] "I find alarming any behaviors that disregard the beliefs of others." She launched investigations into "racism" and "disrespect for belief," and asked for "an official explanation" from the Danish government. However, despite being a professed defender of human rights, she showed no alarm at the OIC's disregard for the Danes' belief in and commitment to a free press.” The Mohammed Cartoons | The Weekly Standard





5. What is the argument that the United States will never lose it’s vaunted love of freedom? Who can look at the above, and not see into what we are descending?
What do we stand for…..and when?
Do we stand for anything?



a. “How horrible, fantastic, incredible it is that we should be digging trenches and trying on gas-masks here because of a quarrel in a far away country between people of whom we know nothing. It seems still more impossible that a quarrel which has already been settled in principle should be the subject of war.”
Neville Chamberlain



How long before the Left begins some campaign based on a "Better Red Than Dead" theme?
 
The constitution expressed something that was believed to be true in the best manner it could be expressed in 18th English.
The way language works is that humans have concepts and thoughts and give them names. They exist in the minds of those humans. 'Right' is one of those words.
 
1. Are we moving toward a nation without the unalienable rights memorialized in the Constitution? Can you imagine a United States President nominating a candidate for the Supreme Court, who opposed the first amendment to the Constitution? Well, one did:

"I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation."

In a 1996 paper, "Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine," Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
That paper asserted First Amendment doctrine is comprised of "motives and ... actions infested with them" and she goes so far as to claim that "First Amendment law is best understood and most readily explained as a kind of motive-hunting."

Kagan's name was also on a brief, United States V. Stevens, dug up by the Washington Examiner, stating: "Whether a given category of speech enjoys First Amendment protection depends upon a categorical balancing of the value of the speech against its societal costs."
If the government doesn't like what you say, Elena Kagan believes it is the duty of courts to tell you to shut up. If some pantywaist is offended by what you say, Elena Kagan believes your words can be "disappeared".
WyBlog -- Elena Kagan's America: some speech can be "disappeared"
Elena Kagan Radical anti-gun nut? « The Daley Gator

2. Progressives don't believe that there are any rights that the government cannot cancel, and we have a President and a Supreme Court Justice who believe in censorship. In fact, this administration seems to have an inordinate 'sensitivity' toward a certain major religion....What happens when we put those two views together?

Oriana Fallaci, was one of the best known of European journalists. In 2006, the ‘New Yorker’ wrote that after 9/11, Fallaci wrote “three short angry books” that “the Western world is in danger of being engulfed by radical Islam.” Life and Letters: The Agitator : The New Yorker

a. In 2002, a French NGO, ‘The Movement Against Racism and Friendship Between Peoples,” tried to get her book ‘The Rage and the Pride,” banned.

b. In 2003, Fallaci was sued in Switzerland by the Islamic Center of Geneva, charging racism. The Swiss judiciary issued an arrest warrant for a criminal trial.

c. In 2005, Fallaci was ordered to stand trial in Italy for “vilification” of Islam. The trial became moot, as she died in 2006 of cancer.

3. In 2008, Brigitte Bardot, actress, was convicted and heavily fined for an open letter to Nicolas Sarkozy, in which she objected to the ritual slaughter of sheep during the Islamic feast of Eid. Is Brigitte Bardot Bashing Islam? - TIME

4. We all recall the reaction of the Muslim world to the publication, in Denmark, of the Mohammed cartoons. At the United Nations….” The U.N. high commissioner for human rights, former Supreme Court of Canada justice Louise Arbour, replied to the OIC, [Organisation of Islamic Cooperation] "I find alarming any behaviors that disregard the beliefs of others." She launched investigations into "racism" and "disrespect for belief," and asked for "an official explanation" from the Danish government. However, despite being a professed defender of human rights, she showed no alarm at the OIC's disregard for the Danes' belief in and commitment to a free press.” The Mohammed Cartoons | The Weekly Standard

5. What is the argument that the United States will never lose it’s vaunted love of freedom? Who can look at the above, and not see into what we are descending?
What do we stand for…..and when?
Do we stand for anything?

a. “How horrible, fantastic, incredible it is that we should be digging trenches and trying on gas-masks here because of a quarrel in a far away country between people of whom we know nothing. It seems still more impossible that a quarrel which has already been settled in principle should be the subject of war.”
Neville Chamberlain

How long before the Left begins some campaign based on a "Better Red Than Dead" theme?
All that is true, and, we could get a future with people who believe they were taught they must squelch their parent's way of life for anything the dear leader says, even if it is grounded in parasitism that will end with no host once the wealth is gone.

All I can do is pray for a miracle that war between principalities is ended with our freedoms left intact.

May the Spirit of Christmas give you joy and peace. Merry Christmas! Christ the Lord was born that we might live afresh in his light.

A-dios, Go with God. :eusa_angel:
 
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The New World Order can't implement World Gov't when there are countries with the ability to act autonomously. "Google" New World Order if you have any doubt it exists.
Is this one of your peeks into the future like when you told us that Romney was going to be President?
I thought Romney was a shoe in as well because he's quite the Globalist, but The System thought Obama could do a better job implementing their "vision" for their future.

Besides, two candidates ran, why wouldn't one get elected? :confused:
 
The constitution expressed something that was believed to be true in the best manner it could be expressed in 18th English.
The way language works is that humans have concepts and thoughts and give them names. They exist in the minds of those humans. 'Right' is one of those words.



It wasn't necessary to re-phrase the perspective of Progressives....it is eminently clear.

Merry Christmas.
 
1. Are we moving toward a nation without the unalienable rights memorialized in the Constitution? Can you imagine a United States President nominating a candidate for the Supreme Court, who opposed the first amendment to the Constitution? Well, one did:

"I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation."

In a 1996 paper, "Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine," Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
That paper asserted First Amendment doctrine is comprised of "motives and ... actions infested with them" and she goes so far as to claim that "First Amendment law is best understood and most readily explained as a kind of motive-hunting."

Kagan's name was also on a brief, United States V. Stevens, dug up by the Washington Examiner, stating: "Whether a given category of speech enjoys First Amendment protection depends upon a categorical balancing of the value of the speech against its societal costs."
If the government doesn't like what you say, Elena Kagan believes it is the duty of courts to tell you to shut up. If some pantywaist is offended by what you say, Elena Kagan believes your words can be "disappeared".
WyBlog -- Elena Kagan's America: some speech can be "disappeared"
Elena Kagan Radical anti-gun nut? « The Daley Gator

2. Progressives don't believe that there are any rights that the government cannot cancel, and we have a President and a Supreme Court Justice who believe in censorship. In fact, this administration seems to have an inordinate 'sensitivity' toward a certain major religion....What happens when we put those two views together?

Oriana Fallaci, was one of the best known of European journalists. In 2006, the ‘New Yorker’ wrote that after 9/11, Fallaci wrote “three short angry books” that “the Western world is in danger of being engulfed by radical Islam.” Life and Letters: The Agitator : The New Yorker

a. In 2002, a French NGO, ‘The Movement Against Racism and Friendship Between Peoples,” tried to get her book ‘The Rage and the Pride,” banned.

b. In 2003, Fallaci was sued in Switzerland by the Islamic Center of Geneva, charging racism. The Swiss judiciary issued an arrest warrant for a criminal trial.

c. In 2005, Fallaci was ordered to stand trial in Italy for “vilification” of Islam. The trial became moot, as she died in 2006 of cancer.

3. In 2008, Brigitte Bardot, actress, was convicted and heavily fined for an open letter to Nicolas Sarkozy, in which she objected to the ritual slaughter of sheep during the Islamic feast of Eid. Is Brigitte Bardot Bashing Islam? - TIME

4. We all recall the reaction of the Muslim world to the publication, in Denmark, of the Mohammed cartoons. At the United Nations….” The U.N. high commissioner for human rights, former Supreme Court of Canada justice Louise Arbour, replied to the OIC, [Organisation of Islamic Cooperation] "I find alarming any behaviors that disregard the beliefs of others." She launched investigations into "racism" and "disrespect for belief," and asked for "an official explanation" from the Danish government. However, despite being a professed defender of human rights, she showed no alarm at the OIC's disregard for the Danes' belief in and commitment to a free press.” The Mohammed Cartoons | The Weekly Standard

5. What is the argument that the United States will never lose it’s vaunted love of freedom? Who can look at the above, and not see into what we are descending?
What do we stand for…..and when?
Do we stand for anything?

a. “How horrible, fantastic, incredible it is that we should be digging trenches and trying on gas-masks here because of a quarrel in a far away country between people of whom we know nothing. It seems still more impossible that a quarrel which has already been settled in principle should be the subject of war.”
Neville Chamberlain

How long before the Left begins some campaign based on a "Better Red Than Dead" theme?
All that is true, and, we could get a future with people who believe they were taught they must squelch their parent's way of life for anything the dear leader says, even if it is grounded in parasitism that will end with no host once the wealth is gone.

All I can do is pray for a miracle that war between principalities is ended with our freedoms left intact.

May the Spirit of Christmas give you joy and peace. Merry Christmas! Christ the Lord was born that we might live afresh in his light.

A-dios, Go with God. :eusa_angel:


1. "...people who believe they were taught they must squelch their parent's way of life for anything the dear leader says,..."
That is exactly what the Progressive believes.....in fact, what Woodrow Wilson, the first Progressive President said:

" The purpose of a university should be to make a son as unlike his father as possible."
“The University's Part in Political Life” (13 March 1909) in PWW (The Papers of Woodrow Wilson) 19:99.



2."All I can do is pray for a miracle..."
A big 'Amen' to that, becki!


3. A Merry Christmas to you,becki...and hopes for a Happier New Year!
God bless!
 
The constitution expressed something that was believed to be true in the best manner it could be expressed in 18th English.
The way language works is that humans have concepts and thoughts and give them names. They exist in the minds of those humans. 'Right' is one of those words.


1. Unalienable Rights are defined as: [Rights which are] incapable of being alienated, that is, sold and transferred.
According to Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition.




2. The Founders supported the idea that human rights, or Natural Rights, where inherent to all people and could not be transferred, even by those having the rights. Most importantly – these rights where not created by governments – but rather, where acknowledged to already pre-exist and supersede government. Therefore – claiming these rights are unalienable – a government cannot later claim that a people have spoken or chosen to given up their rights. The only way possible to forfeit an unalienable right – is as a just penalty for violating another person’s unalienable rights.
http://appeal2heaven.com/2009/04/29/inalienable-vs-unalienable-rights/




Only socialist, collectivist, totalitarian regimes, believe that rights can be withdrawn at the whim of a government.

...as do you.
 
1. Are we moving toward a nation without the unalienable rights memorialized in the Constitution? Can you imagine a United States President nominating a candidate for the Supreme Court, who opposed the first amendment to the Constitution? Well, one did:

"I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation."

In a 1996 paper, "Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine," Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
That paper asserted First Amendment doctrine is comprised of "motives and ... actions infested with them" and she goes so far as to claim that "First Amendment law is best understood and most readily explained as a kind of motive-hunting."

Kagan's name was also on a brief, United States V. Stevens, dug up by the Washington Examiner, stating: "Whether a given category of speech enjoys First Amendment protection depends upon a categorical balancing of the value of the speech against its societal costs."
If the government doesn't like what you say, Elena Kagan believes it is the duty of courts to tell you to shut up. If some pantywaist is offended by what you say, Elena Kagan believes your words can be "disappeared".
WyBlog -- Elena Kagan's America: some speech can be "disappeared"
Elena Kagan Radical anti-gun nut? « The Daley Gator



2. Progressives don't believe that there are any rights that the government cannot cancel, and we have a President and a Supreme Court Justice who believe in censorship. In fact, this administration seems to have an inordinate 'sensitivity' toward a certain major religion....What happens when we put those two views together?


Oriana Fallaci, was one of the best known of European journalists. In 2006, the ‘New Yorker’ wrote that after 9/11, Fallaci wrote “three short angry books” that “the Western world is in danger of being engulfed by radical Islam.” Life and Letters: The Agitator : The New Yorker

a. In 2002, a French NGO, ‘The Movement Against Racism and Friendship Between Peoples,” tried to get her book ‘The Rage and the Pride,” banned.

b. In 2003, Fallaci was sued in Switzerland by the Islamic Center of Geneva, charging racism. The Swiss judiciary issued an arrest warrant for a criminal trial.

c. In 2005, Fallaci was ordered to stand trial in Italy for “vilification” of Islam. The trial became moot, as she died in 2006 of cancer.





3. In 2008, Brigitte Bardot, actress, was convicted and heavily fined for an open letter to Nicolas Sarkozy, in which she objected to the ritual slaughter of sheep during the Islamic feast of Eid. Is Brigitte Bardot Bashing Islam? - TIME




4. We all recall the reaction of the Muslim world to the publication, in Denmark, of the Mohammed cartoons. At the United Nations….” The U.N. high commissioner for human rights, former Supreme Court of Canada justice Louise Arbour, replied to the OIC, [Organisation of Islamic Cooperation] "I find alarming any behaviors that disregard the beliefs of others." She launched investigations into "racism" and "disrespect for belief," and asked for "an official explanation" from the Danish government. However, despite being a professed defender of human rights, she showed no alarm at the OIC's disregard for the Danes' belief in and commitment to a free press.” The Mohammed Cartoons | The Weekly Standard





5. What is the argument that the United States will never lose it’s vaunted love of freedom? Who can look at the above, and not see into what we are descending?
What do we stand for…..and when?
Do we stand for anything?



a. “How horrible, fantastic, incredible it is that we should be digging trenches and trying on gas-masks here because of a quarrel in a far away country between people of whom we know nothing. It seems still more impossible that a quarrel which has already been settled in principle should be the subject of war.”
Neville Chamberlain



How long before the Left begins some campaign based on a "Better Red Than Dead" theme?

Inalienable rights were not memorialized in the Constitution. They were a keystone of the Declaration of Independence

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness
 
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1. Are we moving toward a nation without the unalienable rights memorialized in the Constitution? Can you imagine a United States President nominating a candidate for the Supreme Court, who opposed the first amendment to the Constitution? Well, one did:

"I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation."

In a 1996 paper, "Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine," Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
That paper asserted First Amendment doctrine is comprised of "motives and ... actions infested with them" and she goes so far as to claim that "First Amendment law is best understood and most readily explained as a kind of motive-hunting."

Kagan's name was also on a brief, United States V. Stevens, dug up by the Washington Examiner, stating: "Whether a given category of speech enjoys First Amendment protection depends upon a categorical balancing of the value of the speech against its societal costs."
If the government doesn't like what you say, Elena Kagan believes it is the duty of courts to tell you to shut up. If some pantywaist is offended by what you say, Elena Kagan believes your words can be "disappeared".
WyBlog -- Elena Kagan's America: some speech can be "disappeared"
Elena Kagan Radical anti-gun nut? « The Daley Gator



2. Progressives don't believe that there are any rights that the government cannot cancel, and we have a President and a Supreme Court Justice who believe in censorship. In fact, this administration seems to have an inordinate 'sensitivity' toward a certain major religion....What happens when we put those two views together?


Oriana Fallaci, was one of the best known of European journalists. In 2006, the ‘New Yorker’ wrote that after 9/11, Fallaci wrote “three short angry books” that “the Western world is in danger of being engulfed by radical Islam.” Life and Letters: The Agitator : The New Yorker

a. In 2002, a French NGO, ‘The Movement Against Racism and Friendship Between Peoples,” tried to get her book ‘The Rage and the Pride,” banned.

b. In 2003, Fallaci was sued in Switzerland by the Islamic Center of Geneva, charging racism. The Swiss judiciary issued an arrest warrant for a criminal trial.

c. In 2005, Fallaci was ordered to stand trial in Italy for “vilification” of Islam. The trial became moot, as she died in 2006 of cancer.





3. In 2008, Brigitte Bardot, actress, was convicted and heavily fined for an open letter to Nicolas Sarkozy, in which she objected to the ritual slaughter of sheep during the Islamic feast of Eid. Is Brigitte Bardot Bashing Islam? - TIME




4. We all recall the reaction of the Muslim world to the publication, in Denmark, of the Mohammed cartoons. At the United Nations….” The U.N. high commissioner for human rights, former Supreme Court of Canada justice Louise Arbour, replied to the OIC, [Organisation of Islamic Cooperation] "I find alarming any behaviors that disregard the beliefs of others." She launched investigations into "racism" and "disrespect for belief," and asked for "an official explanation" from the Danish government. However, despite being a professed defender of human rights, she showed no alarm at the OIC's disregard for the Danes' belief in and commitment to a free press.” The Mohammed Cartoons | The Weekly Standard





5. What is the argument that the United States will never lose it’s vaunted love of freedom? Who can look at the above, and not see into what we are descending?
What do we stand for…..and when?
Do we stand for anything?



a. “How horrible, fantastic, incredible it is that we should be digging trenches and trying on gas-masks here because of a quarrel in a far away country between people of whom we know nothing. It seems still more impossible that a quarrel which has already been settled in principle should be the subject of war.”
Neville Chamberlain



How long before the Left begins some campaign based on a "Better Red Than Dead" theme?

Inalienable rights were not memorialized in the Constitution. They were a keystone of the Declaration of Independence

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness



The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.


See if you can figure out why it is called the Bill of Rights.


Nor am I surprised that Georgie is having the same problem with the concept.
So....you guys studied in the same sewer?
 
1. Are we moving toward a nation without the unalienable rights memorialized in the Constitution? Can you imagine a United States President nominating a candidate for the Supreme Court, who opposed the first amendment to the Constitution? Well, one did:

"I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation."

In a 1996 paper, "Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine," Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
That paper asserted First Amendment doctrine is comprised of "motives and ... actions infested with them" and she goes so far as to claim that "First Amendment law is best understood and most readily explained as a kind of motive-hunting."

Kagan's name was also on a brief, United States V. Stevens, dug up by the Washington Examiner, stating: "Whether a given category of speech enjoys First Amendment protection depends upon a categorical balancing of the value of the speech against its societal costs."
If the government doesn't like what you say, Elena Kagan believes it is the duty of courts to tell you to shut up. If some pantywaist is offended by what you say, Elena Kagan believes your words can be "disappeared".
WyBlog -- Elena Kagan's America: some speech can be "disappeared"
Elena Kagan Radical anti-gun nut? « The Daley Gator



2. Progressives don't believe that there are any rights that the government cannot cancel, and we have a President and a Supreme Court Justice who believe in censorship. In fact, this administration seems to have an inordinate 'sensitivity' toward a certain major religion....What happens when we put those two views together?


Oriana Fallaci, was one of the best known of European journalists. In 2006, the ‘New Yorker’ wrote that after 9/11, Fallaci wrote “three short angry books” that “the Western world is in danger of being engulfed by radical Islam.” Life and Letters: The Agitator : The New Yorker

a. In 2002, a French NGO, ‘The Movement Against Racism and Friendship Between Peoples,” tried to get her book ‘The Rage and the Pride,” banned.

b. In 2003, Fallaci was sued in Switzerland by the Islamic Center of Geneva, charging racism. The Swiss judiciary issued an arrest warrant for a criminal trial.

c. In 2005, Fallaci was ordered to stand trial in Italy for “vilification” of Islam. The trial became moot, as she died in 2006 of cancer.





3. In 2008, Brigitte Bardot, actress, was convicted and heavily fined for an open letter to Nicolas Sarkozy, in which she objected to the ritual slaughter of sheep during the Islamic feast of Eid. Is Brigitte Bardot Bashing Islam? - TIME




4. We all recall the reaction of the Muslim world to the publication, in Denmark, of the Mohammed cartoons. At the United Nations….” The U.N. high commissioner for human rights, former Supreme Court of Canada justice Louise Arbour, replied to the OIC, [Organisation of Islamic Cooperation] "I find alarming any behaviors that disregard the beliefs of others." She launched investigations into "racism" and "disrespect for belief," and asked for "an official explanation" from the Danish government. However, despite being a professed defender of human rights, she showed no alarm at the OIC's disregard for the Danes' belief in and commitment to a free press.” The Mohammed Cartoons | The Weekly Standard





5. What is the argument that the United States will never lose it’s vaunted love of freedom? Who can look at the above, and not see into what we are descending?
What do we stand for…..and when?
Do we stand for anything?



a. “How horrible, fantastic, incredible it is that we should be digging trenches and trying on gas-masks here because of a quarrel in a far away country between people of whom we know nothing. It seems still more impossible that a quarrel which has already been settled in principle should be the subject of war.”
Neville Chamberlain



How long before the Left begins some campaign based on a "Better Red Than Dead" theme?

Inalienable rights were not memorialized in the Constitution. They were a keystone of the Declaration of Independence

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness






What then, are the Bill of Rights?
 
1. Are we moving toward a nation without the unalienable rights memorialized in the Constitution? Can you imagine a United States President nominating a candidate for the Supreme Court, who opposed the first amendment to the Constitution? Well, one did:

"I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation."

In a 1996 paper, "Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine," Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
That paper asserted First Amendment doctrine is comprised of "motives and ... actions infested with them" and she goes so far as to claim that "First Amendment law is best understood and most readily explained as a kind of motive-hunting."

Kagan's name was also on a brief, United States V. Stevens, dug up by the Washington Examiner, stating: "Whether a given category of speech enjoys First Amendment protection depends upon a categorical balancing of the value of the speech against its societal costs."
If the government doesn't like what you say, Elena Kagan believes it is the duty of courts to tell you to shut up. If some pantywaist is offended by what you say, Elena Kagan believes your words can be "disappeared".
WyBlog -- Elena Kagan's America: some speech can be "disappeared"
Elena Kagan Radical anti-gun nut? « The Daley Gator



2. Progressives don't believe that there are any rights that the government cannot cancel, and we have a President and a Supreme Court Justice who believe in censorship. In fact, this administration seems to have an inordinate 'sensitivity' toward a certain major religion....What happens when we put those two views together?


Oriana Fallaci, was one of the best known of European journalists. In 2006, the ‘New Yorker’ wrote that after 9/11, Fallaci wrote “three short angry books” that “the Western world is in danger of being engulfed by radical Islam.” Life and Letters: The Agitator : The New Yorker

a. In 2002, a French NGO, ‘The Movement Against Racism and Friendship Between Peoples,” tried to get her book ‘The Rage and the Pride,” banned.

b. In 2003, Fallaci was sued in Switzerland by the Islamic Center of Geneva, charging racism. The Swiss judiciary issued an arrest warrant for a criminal trial.

c. In 2005, Fallaci was ordered to stand trial in Italy for “vilification” of Islam. The trial became moot, as she died in 2006 of cancer.





3. In 2008, Brigitte Bardot, actress, was convicted and heavily fined for an open letter to Nicolas Sarkozy, in which she objected to the ritual slaughter of sheep during the Islamic feast of Eid. Is Brigitte Bardot Bashing Islam? - TIME




4. We all recall the reaction of the Muslim world to the publication, in Denmark, of the Mohammed cartoons. At the United Nations….” The U.N. high commissioner for human rights, former Supreme Court of Canada justice Louise Arbour, replied to the OIC, [Organisation of Islamic Cooperation] "I find alarming any behaviors that disregard the beliefs of others." She launched investigations into "racism" and "disrespect for belief," and asked for "an official explanation" from the Danish government. However, despite being a professed defender of human rights, she showed no alarm at the OIC's disregard for the Danes' belief in and commitment to a free press.” The Mohammed Cartoons | The Weekly Standard





5. What is the argument that the United States will never lose it’s vaunted love of freedom? Who can look at the above, and not see into what we are descending?
What do we stand for…..and when?
Do we stand for anything?



a. “How horrible, fantastic, incredible it is that we should be digging trenches and trying on gas-masks here because of a quarrel in a far away country between people of whom we know nothing. It seems still more impossible that a quarrel which has already been settled in principle should be the subject of war.”
Neville Chamberlain



How long before the Left begins some campaign based on a "Better Red Than Dead" theme?

Inalienable rights were not memorialized in the Constitution. They were a keystone of the Declaration of Independence

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness



What then, are the Bill of Rights?

Nowhere does the Constitution memorialize the Bill of Rights as inalienable rights. That language is reserved for the Declaration of Independence

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The Preamble to The Bill of Rights

Congress of the United States
begun and held at the City of New-York, on
Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.

THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.

RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States, all, or any of which Articles, when ratified by three fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz.

ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.

 
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Inalienable rights were not memorialized in the Constitution. They were a keystone of the Declaration of Independence

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness



What then, are the Bill of Rights?

Nowhere does the Constitution memorialize the Bill of Rights as inalienable rights. That language is reserved for the Declaration of Independence

.



The Preamble to The Bill of Rights

Congress of the United States
begun and held at the City of New-York, on
Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.

THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.

RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States, all, or any of which Articles, when ratified by three fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz.

ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.






Do the two documents exist in seperate realities? Or are they instead a suite of documents delineating government and its power over the individual (or more importantly the individuals power over the government) to be read together and not, as you seem to believe, as seperate entities.
 
Inalienable rights were not memorialized in the Constitution. They were a keystone of the Declaration of Independence

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness



What then, are the Bill of Rights?

Nowhere does the Constitution memorialize the Bill of Rights as inalienable rights. That language is reserved for the Declaration of Independence

.



The Preamble to The Bill of Rights

Congress of the United States
begun and held at the City of New-York, on
Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.

THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.

RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States, all, or any of which Articles, when ratified by three fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz.

ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.




I haven’t seen such contortions since you gave birth to yourself.


Now...you have a Merry Christmas, and a safe and Happy New Year.....'cause I'd hate to be without the human punching bag next year.
 
1. Are we moving toward a nation without the unalienable rights memorialized in the Constitution? Can you imagine a United States President nominating a candidate for the Supreme Court, who opposed the first amendment to the Constitution? Well, one did:

"I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation."

In a 1996 paper, "Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine," Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
That paper asserted First Amendment doctrine is comprised of "motives and ... actions infested with them" and she goes so far as to claim that "First Amendment law is best understood and most readily explained as a kind of motive-hunting."

Kagan's name was also on a brief, United States V. Stevens, dug up by the Washington Examiner, stating: "Whether a given category of speech enjoys First Amendment protection depends upon a categorical balancing of the value of the speech against its societal costs."
If the government doesn't like what you say, Elena Kagan believes it is the duty of courts to tell you to shut up. If some pantywaist is offended by what you say, Elena Kagan believes your words can be "disappeared".
WyBlog -- Elena Kagan's America: some speech can be "disappeared"
Elena Kagan Radical anti-gun nut? « The Daley Gator



2. Progressives don't believe that there are any rights that the government cannot cancel, and we have a President and a Supreme Court Justice who believe in censorship. In fact, this administration seems to have an inordinate 'sensitivity' toward a certain major religion....What happens when we put those two views together?


Oriana Fallaci, was one of the best known of European journalists. In 2006, the ‘New Yorker’ wrote that after 9/11, Fallaci wrote “three short angry books” that “the Western world is in danger of being engulfed by radical Islam.” Life and Letters: The Agitator : The New Yorker

a. In 2002, a French NGO, ‘The Movement Against Racism and Friendship Between Peoples,” tried to get her book ‘The Rage and the Pride,” banned.

b. In 2003, Fallaci was sued in Switzerland by the Islamic Center of Geneva, charging racism. The Swiss judiciary issued an arrest warrant for a criminal trial.

c. In 2005, Fallaci was ordered to stand trial in Italy for “vilification” of Islam. The trial became moot, as she died in 2006 of cancer.





3. In 2008, Brigitte Bardot, actress, was convicted and heavily fined for an open letter to Nicolas Sarkozy, in which she objected to the ritual slaughter of sheep during the Islamic feast of Eid. Is Brigitte Bardot Bashing Islam? - TIME




4. We all recall the reaction of the Muslim world to the publication, in Denmark, of the Mohammed cartoons. At the United Nations….” The U.N. high commissioner for human rights, former Supreme Court of Canada justice Louise Arbour, replied to the OIC, [Organisation of Islamic Cooperation] "I find alarming any behaviors that disregard the beliefs of others." She launched investigations into "racism" and "disrespect for belief," and asked for "an official explanation" from the Danish government. However, despite being a professed defender of human rights, she showed no alarm at the OIC's disregard for the Danes' belief in and commitment to a free press.” The Mohammed Cartoons | The Weekly Standard





5. What is the argument that the United States will never lose it’s vaunted love of freedom? Who can look at the above, and not see into what we are descending?
What do we stand for…..and when?
Do we stand for anything?



a. “How horrible, fantastic, incredible it is that we should be digging trenches and trying on gas-masks here because of a quarrel in a far away country between people of whom we know nothing. It seems still more impossible that a quarrel which has already been settled in principle should be the subject of war.”
Neville Chamberlain



How long before the Left begins some campaign based on a "Better Red Than Dead" theme?

Inalienable rights were not memorialized in the Constitution. They were a keystone of the Declaration of Independence

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness



The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.


See if you can figure out why it is called the Bill of Rights.


Nor am I surprised that Georgie is having the same problem with the concept.
So....you guys studied in the same sewer?

Even those of us who work in a sewer understand that

We also understand the difference between the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution

Shows the value of a Columbia University education doesn't it?
 
What then, are the Bill of Rights?

Nowhere does the Constitution memorialize the Bill of Rights as inalienable rights. That language is reserved for the Declaration of Independence

.



The Preamble to The Bill of Rights

Congress of the United States
begun and held at the City of New-York, on
Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.

THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.

RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States, all, or any of which Articles, when ratified by three fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz.

ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.






Do the two documents exist in seperate realities? Or are they instead a suite of documents delineating government and its power over the individual (or more importantly the individuals power over the government) to be read together and not, as you seem to believe, as seperate entities.



Westy....Grinch-winger's only saying that 'cause he wants to support Kagan and Obama's infringing free speech, he hates religion, and wants to ban Tea Party rallys....
 
Nowhere does the Constitution memorialize the Bill of Rights as inalienable rights. That language is reserved for the Declaration of Independence

.



The Preamble to The Bill of Rights

Congress of the United States
begun and held at the City of New-York, on
Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.

THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.

RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States, all, or any of which Articles, when ratified by three fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz.

ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.






Do the two documents exist in seperate realities? Or are they instead a suite of documents delineating government and its power over the individual (or more importantly the individuals power over the government) to be read together and not, as you seem to believe, as seperate entities.



Westy....Grinch-winger's only saying that 'cause he wants to support Kagan and Obama's infringing free speech, he hates religion, and wants to ban Tea Party rallys....

It's just that sewer workers have a better comprehension of our founding documents than Columbia scholars

Where again does the Constitution "memorialize unalienable rights" again?

Come on professor....has to be in there somewhere
 
Inalienable rights were not memorialized in the Constitution. They were a keystone of the Declaration of Independence

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness



The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.


See if you can figure out why it is called the Bill of Rights.


Nor am I surprised that Georgie is having the same problem with the concept.
So....you guys studied in the same sewer?

Even those of us who work in a sewer understand that

We also understand the difference between the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution

Shows the value of a Columbia University education doesn't it?

Ooo.....I see the green-eyed monster.


Wrong again, Grinch.....
....as evidenced by the following:

"An Act designating March 16 as “Liberty Day” in the State of New Jersey, memorializing the Congress of the United States to pass legislation designating “Liberty Day” annually and supplementing Title 36 of the Revised Statutes.

Whereas, As Americans, we enjoy rights and liberties rooted in the cherished documents that gave birth to our nation, those being the Declaration of Independence and the United States Constitution, with its Bill of Rights"
ftp://www.njleg.state.nj.us/20022003/S1500/1199_I1.HTM



But, as soon as you notify 'em, I'm certain they'll cancel it.
 

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