A paradigm shift is under way

[Old Rocks]

Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Introduces New Technology for Fast-Charging, Noncombustible Batteries

AUSTIN, Texas — A team of engineers led by 94-year-old John Goodenough, professor in the Cockrell School of Engineering at The University of Texas at Austin and co-inventor of the lithium-ion battery, has developed the first all-solid-state battery cells that could lead to safer, faster-charging, longer-lasting rechargeable batteries for handheld mobile devices, electric cars and stationary energy storage.

Goodenough’s latest breakthrough, completed with Cockrell School senior research fellow Maria Helena Braga, is a low-cost all-solid-state battery that is noncombustible and has a long cycle life (battery life) with a high volumetric energy density and fast rates of charge and discharge. The engineers describe their new technology in a recent paper published in the journal Energy & Environmental Science.

“Cost, safety, energy density, rates of charge and discharge and cycle life are critical for battery-driven cars to be more widely adopted. We believe our discovery solves many of the problems that are inherent in today’s batteries,” Goodenough said.

The researchers demonstrated that their new battery cells have at least three times as much energy density as today’s lithium-ion batteries. A battery cell’s energy density gives an electric vehicle its driving range, so a higher energy density means that a car can drive more miles between charges. The UT Austin battery formulation also allows for a greater number of charging and discharging cycles, which equates to longer-lasting batteries, as well as a faster rate of recharge (minutes rather than hours).


All of that, and low cost. If this can be mass manufactured, the ICE is dead.



Germany and Norway leading the way.

Now you add what Tesla is doing with home solar and energy storage, and we are going to see a paradigm shift in how we generate and distribute electricity in the 21st Century.

 

[westwall]

Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Introduces New Technology for Fast-Charging, Noncombustible Batteries

AUSTIN, Texas — A team of engineers led by 94-year-old John Goodenough, professor in the Cockrell School of Engineering at The University of Texas at Austin and co-inventor of the lithium-ion battery, has developed the first all-solid-state battery cells that could lead to safer, faster-charging, longer-lasting rechargeable batteries for handheld mobile devices, electric cars and stationary energy storage.

Goodenough’s latest breakthrough, completed with Cockrell School senior research fellow Maria Helena Braga, is a low-cost all-solid-state battery that is noncombustible and has a long cycle life (battery life) with a high volumetric energy density and fast rates of charge and discharge. The engineers describe their new technology in a recent paper published in the journal Energy & Environmental Science.

“Cost, safety, energy density, rates of charge and discharge and cycle life are critical for battery-driven cars to be more widely adopted. We believe our discovery solves many of the problems that are inherent in today’s batteries,” Goodenough said.

The researchers demonstrated that their new battery cells have at least three times as much energy density as today’s lithium-ion batteries. A battery cell’s energy density gives an electric vehicle its driving range, so a higher energy density means that a car can drive more miles between charges. The UT Austin battery formulation also allows for a greater number of charging and discharging cycles, which equates to longer-lasting batteries, as well as a faster rate of recharge (minutes rather than hours).


All of that, and low cost. If this can be mass manufactured, the ICE is dead.



Germany and Norway leading the way.

Now you add what Tesla is doing with home solar and energy storage, and we are going to see a paradigm shift in how we generate and distribute electricity in the 21st Century.

Just a wake up call but batteries DON'T create energy. They merely store it. Other than that it will be nice to have better batteries for uses other than cars. If you want to see the death of the ICE powered vehicles you need to develop Nicola Tesla's ideas of broadcast energy distribution. THAT would be a paradigm shift. This is merely continuing development of technology that already exists. Hence it can't be a paradigm shift.

 

[Old Rocks]

LOL Once again, trying to ignore an up and coming technology and a real paradigm shift in the generation of energy. You obviously never looked at the short video, nor considered the ramifications of a cheap high density battery.

 

[westwall]

LOL Once again, trying to ignore an up and coming technology and a real paradigm shift in the generation of energy. You obviously never looked at the short video, nor considered the ramifications of a cheap high density battery.

I believe I quite clearly stated that it will be very nice to have that type of battery for use in other technologies. Now, do tell us how a battery, ANY battery, generates energy.

 

[MaryL]

Reminds me of that cold fusion stir back in the 90's, Paradigms shift? Want some new COKE to wash that illusion away?

 

[shockedcanadian]

Reminds me of that cold fusion stir back in the 90's, Paradigms shift? Want some new COKE to wash that illusion away?

Ah new Coca-cola, one of the worst product decisions in business history. I remember it well. Then Cherry Coke and Coca-Cola Classic followed, and the circle was complete

 

[Old Rocks]

Mary, that engineer is the fellow who invented the presently used lithium battery. You might also look at that short video about how whole communities are becoming energy independent, and not only saving energy, but also making money. And how the largest utility in Germany is partnering with them.

 

[Old Rocks]

LOL Once again, trying to ignore an up and coming technology and a real paradigm shift in the generation of energy. You obviously never looked at the short video, nor considered the ramifications of a cheap high density battery.

I believe I quite clearly stated that it will be very nice to have that type of battery for use in other technologies. Now, do tell us how a battery, ANY battery, generates energy.

Still ignoring the obvious? No, it does not create energy, but it allows sources like wind and solar to become 24/7. And it allows utilities to have far fewer peaker generators, a savings for them and their customers. But the post was not just about that battery, it included information on how communities in Germany are becoming independent and actually profiting from creating their own electricity. And how the largest utility in Germany is partnering with those communities. And the whole package, from practical EV's to a distributed grid of almost totally renewable generation that profits individuals and communities.

 

[westwall]

LOL Once again, trying to ignore an up and coming technology and a real paradigm shift in the generation of energy. You obviously never looked at the short video, nor considered the ramifications of a cheap high density battery.

I believe I quite clearly stated that it will be very nice to have that type of battery for use in other technologies. Now, do tell us how a battery, ANY battery, generates energy.

Still ignoring the obvious? No, it does not create energy, but it allows sources like wind and solar to become 24/7. And it allows utilities to have far fewer peaker generators, a savings for them and their customers. But the post was not just about that battery, it included information on how communities in Germany are becoming independent and actually profiting from creating their own electricity. And how the largest utility in Germany is partnering with those communities. And the whole package, from practical EV's to a distributed grid of almost totally renewable generation that profits individuals and communities.

Really? 24/7? Soooo, you have a storm and no sunlight gets to your panel for say seven days (we've had 8 days with a really bad storm system where we got nothing out of our solar modules). How does your battery help there? Or how about a windfarm that can't generate electricity for a week because there is either too much, or too little wind? So no, batteries don't help "renewables" become 24/7. Like i said, they will be a nice addition to the arsenal of energy storage, but nowhere near a paradigm shift.

 

[MaryL]

Mary, that engineer is the fellow who invented the presently used lithium battery. You might also look at that short video about how whole communities are becoming energy independent, and not only saving energy, but also making money. And how the largest utility in Germany is partnering with them.

Same ones in Hover boards, Boeing 777s and Galaxy 7s?

 

[Old Rocks]

LOL Once again, trying to ignore an up and coming technology and a real paradigm shift in the generation of energy. You obviously never looked at the short video, nor considered the ramifications of a cheap high density battery.

I believe I quite clearly stated that it will be very nice to have that type of battery for use in other technologies. Now, do tell us how a battery, ANY battery, generates energy.

Still ignoring the obvious? No, it does not create energy, but it allows sources like wind and solar to become 24/7. And it allows utilities to have far fewer peaker generators, a savings for them and their customers. But the post was not just about that battery, it included information on how communities in Germany are becoming independent and actually profiting from creating their own electricity. And how the largest utility in Germany is partnering with those communities. And the whole package, from practical EV's to a distributed grid of almost totally renewable generation that profits individuals and communities.

Really? 24/7? Soooo, you have a storm and no sunlight gets to your panel for say seven days (we've had 8 days with a really bad storm system where we got nothing out of our solar modules). How does your battery help there? Or how about a windfarm that can't generate electricity for a week because there is either too much, or too little wind? So no, batteries don't help "renewables" become 24/7. Like i said, they will be a nice addition to the arsenal of energy storage, but nowhere near a paradigm shift.

So, what the hell is a grid for?

 

[Old Rocks]

Mary, that engineer is the fellow who invented the presently used lithium battery. You might also look at that short video about how whole communities are becoming energy independent, and not only saving energy, but also making money. And how the largest utility in Germany is partnering with them.

Same ones in Hover boards, Boeing 777s and Galaxy 7s?

Yes, and like all the batteries that do not have those problems.

 

[westwall]

LOL Once again, trying to ignore an up and coming technology and a real paradigm shift in the generation of energy. You obviously never looked at the short video, nor considered the ramifications of a cheap high density battery.

I believe I quite clearly stated that it will be very nice to have that type of battery for use in other technologies. Now, do tell us how a battery, ANY battery, generates energy.

Still ignoring the obvious? No, it does not create energy, but it allows sources like wind and solar to become 24/7. And it allows utilities to have far fewer peaker generators, a savings for them and their customers. But the post was not just about that battery, it included information on how communities in Germany are becoming independent and actually profiting from creating their own electricity. And how the largest utility in Germany is partnering with those communities. And the whole package, from practical EV's to a distributed grid of almost totally renewable generation that profits individuals and communities.

Really? 24/7? Soooo, you have a storm and no sunlight gets to your panel for say seven days (we've had 8 days with a really bad storm system where we got nothing out of our solar modules). How does your battery help there? Or how about a windfarm that can't generate electricity for a week because there is either too much, or too little wind? So no, batteries don't help "renewables" become 24/7. Like i said, they will be a nice addition to the arsenal of energy storage, but nowhere near a paradigm shift.

So, what the hell is a grid for?

The grid is for RELIABLE electric power delivered 24/7 regardless of weather. Unlike renewables save for hydroelectric power. Please note that word RELIABLE. It's because wind and solar as so far removed from being reliable that even with all of the windfarms being built no power plants can come off line.

 

[RollingThunder]

Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Introduces New Technology for Fast-Charging, Noncombustible Batteries

AUSTIN, Texas — A team of engineers led by 94-year-old John Goodenough, professor in the Cockrell School of Engineering at The University of Texas at Austin and co-inventor of the lithium-ion battery, has developed the first all-solid-state battery cells that could lead to safer, faster-charging, longer-lasting rechargeable batteries for handheld mobile devices, electric cars and stationary energy storage.

Goodenough’s latest breakthrough, completed with Cockrell School senior research fellow Maria Helena Braga, is a low-cost all-solid-state battery that is noncombustible and has a long cycle life (battery life) with a high volumetric energy density and fast rates of charge and discharge. The engineers describe their new technology in a recent paper published in the journal Energy & Environmental Science.

“Cost, safety, energy density, rates of charge and discharge and cycle life are critical for battery-driven cars to be more widely adopted. We believe our discovery solves many of the problems that are inherent in today’s batteries,” Goodenough said.

The researchers demonstrated that their new battery cells have at least three times as much energy density as today’s lithium-ion batteries. A battery cell’s energy density gives an electric vehicle its driving range, so a higher energy density means that a car can drive more miles between charges. The UT Austin battery formulation also allows for a greater number of charging and discharging cycles, which equates to longer-lasting batteries, as well as a faster rate of recharge (minutes rather than hours).


All of that, and low cost. If this can be mass manufactured, the ICE is dead.



Germany and Norway leading the way.

Now you add what Tesla is doing with home solar and energy storage, and we are going to see a paradigm shift in how we generate and distribute electricity in the 21st Century.

Just a wake up call but batteries DON'T create energy.

No one said that they did. Why are you so stupid?

....it will be nice to have better batteries for uses other than cars. If you want to see the death of the ICE powered vehicles you need to develop Nicola Tesla's ideas of broadcast energy distribution.

What kind of idiocy would make you say "better batteries for uses other than cars"?

Better batteries....cheaper to manufacture, longer lasting, solid state, non-flammable, not potentially explosive, and holding a lot more energy....are actually ideal for electric vehicles. Electric powered vehicles are already cheaper to run per mile than gasoline powered vehicles, so when these batteries become available that take the vehicle even farther than a full tank of gas can take it, then, in very short order, we will indeed see the death of the Internal Combustion Engine powered vehicles.

 

[RollingThunder]

Still ignoring the obvious? No, it does not create energy, but it allows sources like wind and solar to become 24/7. And it allows utilities to have far fewer peaker generators, a savings for them and their customers. But the post was not just about that battery, it included information on how communities in Germany are becoming independent and actually profiting from creating their own electricity. And how the largest utility in Germany is partnering with those communities. And the whole package, from practical EV's to a distributed grid of almost totally renewable generation that profits individuals and communities.

Really? 24/7? Soooo, you have a storm and no sunlight gets to your panel for say seven days (we've had 8 days with a really bad storm system where we got nothing out of our solar modules). How does your battery help there? Or how about a windfarm that can't generate electricity for a week because there is either too much, or too little wind? So no, batteries don't help "renewables" become 24/7. Like i said, they will be a nice addition to the arsenal of energy storage, but nowhere near a paradigm shift.

So, what the hell is a grid for?

The grid is for RELIABLE electric power delivered 24/7 regardless of weather. Unlike renewables save for hydroelectric power. Please note that word RELIABLE. It's because wind and solar as so far removed from being reliable that even with all of the windfarms being built no power plants can come off line.

Just more fraudulent denier cult myths from the walleyedretard.

Solar and wind energy systems can produce much more energy than is needed in the moment, so if that excess energy can be stored cheaply with this new battery technology and then fed back into the grid system when it is needed, there need not be any intermittency problem with renewables.

In the real world....

Solution to Renewable Energy's Intermittency Problem: More Renewable Energy
A mix of offshore and onshore wind, along with contributions from solar power, could provide reliable and cost-effective power flow during all but a handful of days in a hypothetical four-year period under study
Scientific American
By Nathanael Massey
December 12, 2012

 

[westwall]

Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Introduces New Technology for Fast-Charging, Noncombustible Batteries

AUSTIN, Texas — A team of engineers led by 94-year-old John Goodenough, professor in the Cockrell School of Engineering at The University of Texas at Austin and co-inventor of the lithium-ion battery, has developed the first all-solid-state battery cells that could lead to safer, faster-charging, longer-lasting rechargeable batteries for handheld mobile devices, electric cars and stationary energy storage.

Goodenough’s latest breakthrough, completed with Cockrell School senior research fellow Maria Helena Braga, is a low-cost all-solid-state battery that is noncombustible and has a long cycle life (battery life) with a high volumetric energy density and fast rates of charge and discharge. The engineers describe their new technology in a recent paper published in the journal Energy & Environmental Science.

“Cost, safety, energy density, rates of charge and discharge and cycle life are critical for battery-driven cars to be more widely adopted. We believe our discovery solves many of the problems that are inherent in today’s batteries,” Goodenough said.

The researchers demonstrated that their new battery cells have at least three times as much energy density as today’s lithium-ion batteries. A battery cell’s energy density gives an electric vehicle its driving range, so a higher energy density means that a car can drive more miles between charges. The UT Austin battery formulation also allows for a greater number of charging and discharging cycles, which equates to longer-lasting batteries, as well as a faster rate of recharge (minutes rather than hours).


All of that, and low cost. If this can be mass manufactured, the ICE is dead.



Germany and Norway leading the way.

Now you add what Tesla is doing with home solar and energy storage, and we are going to see a paradigm shift in how we generate and distribute electricity in the 21st Century.

Just a wake up call but batteries DON'T create energy.

No one said that they did. Why are you so stupid?

....it will be nice to have better batteries for uses other than cars. If you want to see the death of the ICE powered vehicles you need to develop Nicola Tesla's ideas of broadcast energy distribution.

What kind of idiocy would make you say "better batteries for uses other than cars"?

Better batteries....cheaper to manufacture, longer lasting, solid state, non-flammable, not potentially explosive, and holding a lot more energy....are actually ideal for electric vehicles. Electric powered vehicles are already cheaper to run per mile than gasoline powered vehicles, so when these batteries become available that take the vehicle even farther than a full tank of gas can take it, then, in very short order, we will indeed see the death of the Internal Combustion Engine powered vehicles.

Wrong mr. trolling blunder, your buddy, olfraud made that claim indirectly.

"Still ignoring the obvious? No, it does not create energy, but it allows sources like wind and solar to become 24/7. And it allows utilities to have far fewer peaker generators, a savings for them and their customers. But the post was not just about that battery, it included information on how communities in Germany are becoming independent and actually profiting from creating their own electricity. And how the largest utility in Germany is partnering with those communities. And the whole package, from practical EV's to a distributed grid of almost totally renewable generation that profits individuals and communities."

 

[Old Rocks]

No way did that claim the batteries created energy. They store energy that can be used when the solar panels or wind mills are not generating. And any of the three grids in this nation have enough different places that there is no way that all would be without wind at the same time. Also, the batteries at the source of the generation would be able to smooth the varying output. I really don't know why you people have to constantly create strawmen that are not in what another person posts.

 

[BULLDOG]

No way did that claim the batteries created energy. They store energy that can be used when the solar panels or wind mills are not generating. And any of the three grids in this nation have enough different places that there is no way that all would be without wind at the same time. Also, the batteries at the source of the generation would be able to smooth the varying output. I really don't know why you people have to constantly create strawmen that are not in what another person posts.

Of course you know why, It's what they do. Without making up false crap to belittle perfectly valid ideas, or people, their lives would have no meaning for them.

 

[polarbear]

Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Introduces New Technology for Fast-Charging, Noncombustible Batteries

AUSTIN, Texas — A team of engineers led by 94-year-old John Goodenough, professor in the Cockrell School of Engineering at The University of Texas at Austin and co-inventor of the lithium-ion battery, has developed the first all-solid-state battery cells that could lead to safer, faster-charging, longer-lasting rechargeable batteries for handheld mobile devices, electric cars and stationary energy storage.

Goodenough’s latest breakthrough, completed with Cockrell School senior research fellow Maria Helena Braga, is a low-cost all-solid-state battery that is noncombustible and has a long cycle life (battery life) with a high volumetric energy density and fast rates of charge and discharge. The engineers describe their new technology in a recent paper published in the journal Energy & Environmental Science.

“Cost, safety, energy density, rates of charge and discharge and cycle life are critical for battery-driven cars to be more widely adopted. We believe our discovery solves many of the problems that are inherent in today’s batteries,” Goodenough said.

The researchers demonstrated that their new battery cells have at least three times as much energy density as today’s lithium-ion batteries. A battery cell’s energy density gives an electric vehicle its driving range, so a higher energy density means that a car can drive more miles between charges. The UT Austin battery formulation also allows for a greater number of charging and discharging cycles, which equates to longer-lasting batteries, as well as a faster rate of recharge (minutes rather than hours).


All of that, and low cost. If this can be mass manufactured, the ICE is dead.



Germany and Norway leading the way.

Now you add what Tesla is doing with home solar and energy storage, and we are going to see a paradigm shift in how we generate and distribute electricity in the 21st Century.

How the hell is any of that a "paradigm shift" in energy generation (???) or distribution.
Perhaps in distribution if you ship electricity in cartons full of batteries by UPS instead of a power line grid.
Next thing this innovation, the only difference is a glass membrane separating the 2 components that give you the emf between Li and whatever the other one would be...and that could be at best Fluorine then you get a -5.91 Volt potential. That`s as good as it possibly can get unless there is some Kryptonyte or Unobtanium we could mine from some planet with highly advanced aliens.
Nowhere in that publication is anything that shows a 3 times higher energy density. 3 times higher than what? A lead acid car battery perhaps.

The Voltage on the Y axis is what you would get with a Sodium electrode referenced against Hydrogen which is used as a standard for emf comparisons...and that should be - 2.71 Volts.
With Lithium against a standard Hydrogen electrode you should get - 3.04 Volts
I don`t see any of that in that diagram. 2.68 Volts is the max V potential and that`s not 3 times higher than anything we have so far.
So the only avenue which remains open to pack 3 times the energy if it was not done by Volts are ampere hours. And he does not show you a diagram for the discharge? Why not?
Because he can`t show that it has 3 times the amp hours.
So instead he claims he can pack 3 times the amount of active substance per volume to "give you" 3 times as much energy. He says he can do that because the glass membrane bars dendrites bridging the 2 electrodes causing a short.
This "paradigm shift" is nothing but the hot air that gets published in today`s publish or perish academic environment. Not even the glass membrane mentioned is a technical innovation. Every electrode used in labs to measure specific ions use glass membranes.
The other "paradigm shift" is going a step backwards from Li batteries to the old and outdated Sodium based batteries and the publishers of this no-news paper "informs" us that sea water contains lots of Sodium and that it is cheaper than Lithium.
No wonder that the only people who are impressed by this and call it a "paradigm shift" in science and technology are those who have no clue.

 

[RollingThunder]

Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Introduces New Technology for Fast-Charging, Noncombustible Batteries

AUSTIN, Texas — A team of engineers led by 94-year-old John Goodenough, professor in the Cockrell School of Engineering at The University of Texas at Austin and co-inventor of the lithium-ion battery, has developed the first all-solid-state battery cells that could lead to safer, faster-charging, longer-lasting rechargeable batteries for handheld mobile devices, electric cars and stationary energy storage.

Goodenough’s latest breakthrough, completed with Cockrell School senior research fellow Maria Helena Braga, is a low-cost all-solid-state battery that is noncombustible and has a long cycle life (battery life) with a high volumetric energy density and fast rates of charge and discharge. The engineers describe their new technology in a recent paper published in the journal Energy & Environmental Science.

“Cost, safety, energy density, rates of charge and discharge and cycle life are critical for battery-driven cars to be more widely adopted. We believe our discovery solves many of the problems that are inherent in today’s batteries,” Goodenough said.

The researchers demonstrated that their new battery cells have at least three times as much energy density as today’s lithium-ion batteries. A battery cell’s energy density gives an electric vehicle its driving range, so a higher energy density means that a car can drive more miles between charges. The UT Austin battery formulation also allows for a greater number of charging and discharging cycles, which equates to longer-lasting batteries, as well as a faster rate of recharge (minutes rather than hours).


All of that, and low cost. If this can be mass manufactured, the ICE is dead.



Germany and Norway leading the way.

Now you add what Tesla is doing with home solar and energy storage, and we are going to see a paradigm shift in how we generate and distribute electricity in the 21st Century.

How the hell is any of that a "paradigm shift" in energy generation (???) or distribution.
Perhaps in distribution if you ship electricity in cartons full of batteries by UPS instead of a power line grid.
Next thing this innovation, the only difference is a glass membrane separating the 2 components that give you the emf between Li and whatever the other one would be...and that could be at best Fluorine then you get a -5.91 Volt potential. That`s as good as it possibly can get unless there is some Kryptonyte or Unobtanium we could mine from some planet with highly advanced aliens.
Nowhere in that publication is anything that shows a 3 times higher energy density. 3 times higher than what? A lead acid car battery perhaps.

The Voltage on the Y axis is what you would get with a Sodium electrode referenced against Hydrogen which is used as a standard for emf comparisons...and that should be - 2.71 Volts.
With Lithium against a standard Hydrogen electrode you should get - 3.04 Volts
I don`t see any of that in that diagram. 2.68 Volts is the max V potential and that`s not 3 times higher than anything we have so far.
So the only avenue which remains open to pack 3 times the energy if it was not done by Volts are ampere hours. And he does not show you a diagram for the discharge? Why not?
Because he can`t show that it has 3 times the amp hours.
So instead he claims he can pack 3 times the amount of active substance per volume to "give you" 3 times as much energy. He says he can do that because the glass membrane bars dendrites bridging the 2 electrodes causing a short.
This "paradigm shift" is nothing but the hot air that gets published in today`s publish or perish academic environment. Not even the glass membrane mentioned is a technical innovation. Every electrode used in labs to measure specific ions use glass membranes.
The other "paradigm shift" is going a step backwards from Li batteries to the old and outdated Sodium based batteries and the publishers of this no-news paper "informs" us that sea water contains lots of Sodium and that it is cheaper than Lithium.
No wonder that the only people who are impressed by this and call it a "paradigm shift" in science and technology are those who have no clue.

Poor ol' poop4brains once again demonstrates what a clueless retard he is.

The article says: "Goodenough’s latest breakthrough, completed with Cockrell School senior research fellow Maria Helena Braga, is a low-cost all-solid-state battery that is noncombustible and has a long cycle life (battery life) with a high volumetric energy density and fast rates of charge and discharge."

Poop4brains says: "the only difference is a glass membrane separating the 2 components that give you the emf between Li and whatever the other one would be".

But the new battery doesn't use liquid "Lithium (Li)" or a "glass membrane" to separate two liquids.

The article says: "The researchers demonstrated that their new battery cells have at least three times as much energy density as today’s lithium-ion batteries."

Poop4brains says: "Nowhere in that publication is anything that shows a 3 times higher energy density. 3 times higher than what? A lead acid car battery perhaps."

Obviously Poop4brains is too stupid to understand the meaning of the word "demonstrate", or to grasp the fact that the article clearly stated what the new battery's "three times higher energy density" is being compared to.

Demonstrate
1. to make evident; prove.
2. to describe, illustrate by examples, experiments, or the like:
to demonstrate the force of gravity by dropping an object.
3. to manifest or exhibit; show.
4. to exhibit the operation or use of (a device, process, product, or the like).

Anti-science denier cult retards are so crazy!