Discussion in 'Israel and Palestine' started by ajwps, Jul 27, 2004.
This enemy within Israel is the face of evil!
You mean Israel is really gonna let them have one??
Israel offered it to them twice on a platter.
They simply turned down the offer. They have one that they can't refuse.
The point of the Kalashnikov at the head of the Arabs has made their choice for them.
Offers are now CLOSED....
Guess we don't have to worry about thier justice system then.
Right on the mark. WE don't have to worry about their justice system as they carry out 'war crimes' against their own people.
If a Palestinian state had ever emerged, nobody any longer would hand it to them on a silver platter, as ex-Prime Minister Ehud Barak tried to do four years ago. They have not earned or deserved it by their own actions. The world would have needed to hold their feet to the fire on every relevant issue. The first step would have been to establish certain criteria for a viable Palestinian state.
1) The government would not have been able to use the state as a staging ground for attacks on Israel or any other country, and they would have had to aggressively pursue and prosecute all individuals or groups attempting such attacks, and avoided association with nations that sponsor terrorism;
2) An Arab government would have had to aggressively maintain law and order, while respecting the civil rights of all its citizens;
3) Basic services would have to have been provided to all citizens on an equitable basis and a tight system could have been created to account for all spending;
4) A criminal justice system that would have established and aggressively prosecuted all serious crimes, including murder, domestic abuse, child abuse and vigilantism;
5) Government leaders would have been elected through the democratic process;
6) The international community would have helped the Palestinians develop an economy and governmental system, and the Palestinian leadership would have necessarily fully cooperated;
7) Any Palestinian government would have had to establish diplomatic and economic ties with Israel, Egypt and Jordan, and those countries would have had to cooperate with the Palestinian government to make it a viable state.
Some reasons for these now bygone ground rules were obvious, while others not so obvious. On a collective level, Palestinians have obviously failed every test or criteria on this list.
And I thank G-d they did fail miserably to obtain a government state carved out of Israeli territory.
I'm sure you do!----as long as the Palestinians are in dissaray, Israel can justify anything they do. ( Not that it matters because Israel does what it wants anyway )
Correct again. As long as the Arabs in Israel keep themselves in dissaray, Israel can justify anything necessary to protect their people and their property.
You contradict yourself again. You previously said that HALF OF THE ISRAELIS want loan guarantees and give the Arabs a homeland instead of having security for themselves and their country and now you say it matters not because (ALL) Israel does what it wants anyway.
Depends on who is in power---there are certainly those in Israel who oppose the present administrations tactics.-----No contradiction tho--Israel always does what it wants.
Depends on who is in power? The Israeli government or an Arab government?
There are those in all democratic countries that apposes their present administration's policies. Why does that surprise you?
No contradiction? Israel decides what it wants to just as England, USA, Canada, New Zealand, Australia and all the rest of democratic countries?
Why do you pick out Israel as some kind of other entity?
Because earlier YOU said Israel had to jump thru hoops to get American "grants"and loans. No--an opposition party in Israel does not surprise me at all. That's what I meant be whose in power. (which Isreali party is in power)
Separate names with a comma.