A non judge mental look at obesity?

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    Usually, I am the biggest bitch here about this, but let's put it aside now, and let's discuss whether a scientific view can be developed.

    Obesity is the most deeply personal development of human life, and thus the primary result of worldwide Americanization, with its most recent and famous casualty, Brazil.

    So, how does obesity develop? Obesity, by its dynamics, falls into the category of addiction related deceases. For an obese person, the reason for obesity is usually the people around in the immediate vicinity.

    But obesity is an epidemic, and a modern age development, so the answers may be global. Here is my take, I wonder about yours. Modern life is defined usually by its economic productivity. On the personal level, this means the difference between shareholder expectations and related personal achievement for that. (That is achievement minus expectation.) This difference is always negative, otherwise the shareholders leave unutilized production capacity on the table, missing out at parts of their profits.

    As a result, a modern person is in a continuous catch up race. The modern person must continuously invest into herself by buying products that speed up her ability to catch up with the shareholder expectations. These products must also reflect her sense of status, which is the outwardly manifestation of aiming at that negative gap above. This means the maximization of personal credit utilization such as mainly in cars and property.

    Like an addict, who can't catch up with the continuous negative gap between the demands of her addiction and her personal achievement in servicing that addiction, an obese person can't catch up with the negative gap between the demands of shareholders plus personal credit, and her personal achievement in servicing these two demands.

    What kind of solutions are possible to fix this problem? Tell the obese person to forget that every day in school she was told to prepare for a productive life? Tell the obese person something about the people immediately around her? Tell the obese person about her achievements or what she should think she deserves? These trials have already failed nationally, because these are equivalent to trying to fix an addict without trying to change her drugs.

    So, is there such a thing as a lost generation? Or an evil generation? Or a generation of poison? We know that there is officially a generation called the Me generation. That generation formulated itself by defining its personal decisions in order to exploit its environment. Is the key to survival for a 21st century generation then a capability to define its personal decisions in order to protect itself from its environment? Is that even feasible?

    Discuss.
     
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    obesity is a terrible affliction.
     
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    Also the most wide spread affliction, and accelerating.
     
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    In reality, obesity not a disease. Nor is it an affliction beyond what the person puts upon themselves. Obesity comes from life choices. Some claim they are fat because they eat because they are lonely or feel bad about themselves. That might be true, but, it is what they choose to eat more than it is how much they eat. Sit down and eat a watermelon regularly and you wont gain an ounce. Eat a bucket of greasy fried chicken and a bag of donuts regularly and your ass is going to eventually compete with the state of Texas for real estate.

    Another thing: Sitting on ones ass does not make it smaller. Exercise not only makes an ass smaller, makes it firmer too.
     
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    So we are back to the puzzle then, why people want to feel bad about themselves and eat accordingly. I am sure that the OP is not the only speculation possible about it.
     
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    Wanna lose fat? Do these three things:
    1. Stop drinking soda.
    2. Stop eating bread.
    3. Stop eating deep fried anything.

    Watch the weight fall off with no exercise.

    Stop blaming Society or Genetics.
     
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    Shop the perimeter of the grocery stores heavily and the aisles sparingly. The perimeter is where most of the real foods reside.

    Carbs aren't necessarily bad, it's the white carbs that are crap. Stop eating white pasta, rice, and bread. Instead, opt for brown rice, whole grain breads, and veggie pastas.

    Cut out the sugary foods and eliminate any with high fructose corn syrup. If you MUST use sugar in cooking, go with honey or raw turbinado sugar.

    Quit eating like you're 14-years old. If it doesn't go in the eating hole, you won't be a fat ass.
     
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    Now this is a god one for real, "if it doesn't go in the eating hole you won't be a fat ass". It appears that there is a lot of work needed to make it avoid the eating hole.
     
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    I don't see how we're ever going to lose weight unless we pass some laws or something.
     
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    Obesity is a combo of (1) an eating disorder and (2) a lack of exercise.

    If you starve yourself with small portions and exercise every day, resting only on Sundays, you won't be obese.

    But very few people actually have that kind of self discipline.

    Former athletes and former military most often do.

    But not very often for sedentary civilians.

    Combine this problem with easy access to oily fried fast foods, and you get a major problem world wide.
     
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