A new Gallup poll suggests Obama's class warfare is becoming a big loser for the left

teapartysamurai

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A recent poll by Gallup shows that the efforts of Obama and the Occupiers may be backfiring against the beggar-thy-neighbor Alinskyite left.
To be clear, while the poll shows that "Americans' views of their own position as 'haves' or 'have nots' have been remarkably stable," the percentage of Americans who believe that the nation is divided along those lines has plunged since the last similar poll, done just prior to President Obama's election in 2008.

But Barack Obama has given the nation a tremendous object lesson by posing the federal government as the solution to all problems -- and then proving that it isn't. When the president said that spending a trillion dollars of our children's future earnings would keep unemployment below 8 percent only to see us spend the last two and a half years with only three months below 9 percent unemployment -- and none below 8.5 percent -- the public begins to see the economic emperor as wearing no clothes.
Even if the voters don't think about it explicitly, if the Obama administration's claims about government fixing the economy are so obviously false, then just perhaps the other charges made about evil capitalists being the source of all evil may also be false. At least, they're worth skepticism.

And thus the public has become skeptical.

The Occupy Wall Street movement has likewise had the opposite effect of what its anarcho-socialist hygiene-challenged spoiled middle-class kids intended. When you see "protesters" defecating on a police car or an American flag, instigating violence, and generally being incoherent, the ordinary American is likely to see those people as a greater threat than a bunch of villainized bankers could ever be. Again, when the messenger is so utterly without credibility, the internalized message among the public is likely to be the opposite of what the preachers of radicalism offer.

The American Spectator : The Real Sleeping Giant

Thus, Obama and the liberals thought the OWS would be the answer to the Tea Party, and he would get the country to sympathize with his brand of marxist class envy.

But, it's backfiring. All people are seeing is a bunch of dirty, filthy spoiled brats, sitting around and demanding other people pay for their demands.

That might have worked in Europe, but not in the US, where Americans pride themselves on (as Rush Limbaugh puts it) "rugged individualism."

We don't want the government to pay for all our needs. We want to do it ourselves.

And we don't want a lot of people demanding WE pay for their spoiled demands.

This is another example of where I think the establishment is wrong. The establishment (of both parties) think Obama can win.

I think Obama is extremely vulnerable, more vulnerable than Jimmy Carter, to defeat.

Oh don't get me wrong, the Republicans can still pull defeat from the jaws of victory.

They've done it before with John McCain and Bob Dole. Like the liberals, the Republican establishment has a fixed way of thinking and they won't be confused by facts or reality.

They are still convinced they need a "moderate" (aka watered down liberal) to win elections, and they won't let inconvenient truths like Reagan or Bush convince them otherwise.

Doesn't matter how many times they LOSE with this forumla (Gerald Ford, Bob Dole, John McCain), they STILL are determined they can win with a moderate.

I liken it to the communists who refuse to accept reality that communism doesn't work. They tell themselves it can work if the "right people" run it.

Same thing with the Republican leadership. They believe the "right moderate" will win an election.

So, we can still lose this election, thanks to the Republican establishment. But it won't be because Obama defeats us, we will have defeated ourselves.
 
I have a question. Is it possible to write a right leaning article without being a lying sack of shit?
 
The poll is probably an indicator that the economy is doing a bit better. Also, the fact that so many people considered themselves among the "haves" shows that they were thinking of the question very differently than that AS article implied; basically most of those people must think they're "haves" if they're not homeless and starving.

All the polls I've seen show overwhelming support for narrowing income gaps. That is completely compatible with this poll result, which means this poll result doesn't show that that has changed.
 
American Spectator? You can't get much more far right than that resource.
Ignoring the far right interpretation of the Gallup Poll is highly recommended.
Just go to the Gallup Report and deal with reality.
Fewer Americans See U.S. Divided Into "Haves," "Have Nots"
I have a question. Is it possible to write a right leaning article without being a lying sack of shit?

The poll is probably an indicator that the economy is doing a bit better. Also, the fact that so many people considered themselves among the "haves" shows that they were thinking of the question very differently than that AS article implied; basically most of those people must think they're "haves" if they're not homeless and starving.

All the polls I've seen show overwhelming support for narrowing income gaps. That is completely compatible with this poll result, which means this poll result doesn't show that that has changed.
Yeah, keep your heads in the sand Libs. It makes the job of getting rid of Obama that much easier! :D
 
The class warfare has only begun. The middle class is going to wake up one day and see how they are getting the shaft as the ultra wealthy consider them garbage and have a huge hatred toward them. I really dont know how any millionaire or billionaire can relate to the average hard working american. They simply cannot relate but they are the ones getting elected. Talk about a broken system. When it all comes right down to it the whole ball game is the rich versus the poor. The worker versus the management. The worker has to fight for every little thing they get.
 
Actually..no TPS. You and your racist nazi tea party terrorists are now on the running side of the battle.

Just like the civil war..without the blood and gore. But if you want to start that bullshit again..believe you me..the results will be the same.
 
It's always about the Class Warfare with the Left. They're all very loyal Saul Alinsky disciples. He wrote the book on Marxist 'Community Organizing.' His 'Rules for Radicals' is required reading. They have to stir up the hate & envy. It's the Golden Rule for the Left/Democrats.
 
It's always about the Class Warfare with the Left. They're all very loyal Saul Alinsky disciples. He wrote the book on Marxist 'Community Organizing.' His 'Rules for Radicals' is required reading. They have to stir up the hate & envy. It's the Golden Rule for the Left/Democrats.

LOL one of these days I'll have to get around to reading Alinsky's book. It comes with such wonderful mouth-foaming advertising from the right that it HAS to be good. :D
 
The Left/Democrats need Class Warfare. They couldn't win a single Election without it. And they know that. They need to stir up the hate & envy. Where would they be if they didn't do that? It's just like their Race-Baiting Game. That's a never-ending game for them. Anyone who doesn't tow the Democratic Party-line is immediately labelled a 'Racist.' They've been doing that for many many years. Hopefully most Americans have caught on and aren't buying that Bullshit anymore. This Poll seems to indicate many have caught on. It's a positive sign.
 
The Left/Democrats need Class Warfare. They couldn't win a single Election without it.

Luckily for the Democrats, the Republicans can be relied upon to stir class warfare up by making war on the middle class and the poor, on behalf of the rich.

It's only called class warfare when the 99% fight BACK.
 
American Spectator? You can't get much more far right than that resource.
Ignoring the far right interpretation of the Gallup Poll is highly recommended.
Just go to the Gallup Report and deal with reality.
Fewer Americans See U.S. Divided Into "Haves," "Have Nots"
I have a question. Is it possible to write a right leaning article without being a lying sack of shit?

The poll is probably an indicator that the economy is doing a bit better. Also, the fact that so many people considered themselves among the "haves" shows that they were thinking of the question very differently than that AS article implied; basically most of those people must think they're "haves" if they're not homeless and starving.

All the polls I've seen show overwhelming support for narrowing income gaps. That is completely compatible with this poll result, which means this poll result doesn't show that that has changed.
Yeah, keep your heads in the sand Libs. It makes the job of getting rid of Obama that much easier! :D

Look, if you look at the graphs on Gallup's website, it's pretty clear that those who think there are "have's" versus the "have nots" coincides with the economy. If one looks at the historical average and long term trend, the opinion is rebounding back to pre-recession numbers. It's not rocket science, it's not partisan hackery, it's just objective thinking.
The American Spectator addition to the OP is pure partisan far-right spin.
 
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The Left/Democrats need Class Warfare. They couldn't win a single Election without it.

Luckily for the Democrats, the Republicans can be relied upon to stir class warfare up by making war on the middle class and the poor, on behalf of the rich.

It's only called class warfare when the 99% fight BACK.

What horse shit....

What an enlightening comment. :tongue:

Care to say why you consider it "horse shit"? Or do you prefer to go on saying nothing?
 
Class warfare? You mean when Republicans changed the laws so the wealthy could redistribute the wealth to the top 1%?
 
Actually..no TPS. You and your racist nazi tea party terrorists are now on the running side of the battle.

Just like the civil war..without the blood and gore. But if you want to start that bullshit again..believe you me..the results will be the same.

And what are OWS. RACIST ZIONIST CRIMINALS
 
Luckily for the Democrats, the Republicans can be relied upon to stir class warfare up by making war on the middle class and the poor, on behalf of the rich.

It's only called class warfare when the 99% fight BACK.

What horse shit....

What an enlightening comment. :tongue:

Care to say why you consider it "horse shit"? Or do you prefer to go on saying nothing?

Democrats are the ones that make it a campaign strategy, every election in and out. Democrats, if you have forgotten created the marriage penalty, so take your BS to a fellow poll smoker.
 

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