A new energy source from nuclear fusion

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    He would have to tell them the secret element that makes it run. Rossi is a man that wants to keep everything close to his chest as he got fucked over pretty badly within Italy...He is gun shy.
     
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    Cold fusion: turning point or bluff

    ». "We should be starting soon, in a few weeks - Campari tells Henry, professor of experimental physics and the scientific research with Giuseppe Levi - in summer you could have the first scientific report of the results obtained disclose to scientific journals."
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    This is very good news!
     
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    I unnerstand. Here's hoping it comes to fruition.
     
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    Andrea Rossi’s reply to Brian Josephson
    Dear Professor Josephson,
    I do understand your concerns, but as I already explained, I am not going to give any other demonstration of the E-Cat because at this point it wouldn’t make any sense: we already got industrial manufacturing underway and the E-Cat is a ready product for the market. Our customers will buy a working device; if it didn’t work, they wouldn’t buy it. Besides, I’m in such a busy and demanding stage that, even if I wanted, I wouldn’t have the time to arrange any test.

    Please allow me to underline that professor Celani is not just a scientist, but a competitor too. This is one of the reasons I cannot accept his offer. The market plays by different rules than the academic world, and even if I realize that a scientist needs to know and understand the theory, I need to protect my invention, if not I could lose my job. Please try to understand my point, I don’t mean to disregard the scientific needs. I would like to remind everyone that we are working on that too: in my letter to professor Celani, I explained that the university of Bologna is about to start a complete work of research on the E-Cat; not to mention that the positive feedback from a 30 years experienced customer should drive all doubts away.

    A question seems to be legitimate here.
    Why are you suggesting me to take Francesco Celani’s offer? Don’t you think that a complete study from a university is precisely what is needed, with regard to the theoretical and engineering develop? Don’t you think that, with regard to the scientific praxis and credits, it would be more appropriate to rely on the university than on an individual researcher?

    In summary, I don’t intend to give any other dimostrative test: the last one has been the one of Oct, 6th. We are selling plants to customers who run their own tests and decide whether to buy the E-Cat or not relying on their results: they don’t mind what’s inside the reactor. Meanwhile, the university of Bologna will take scrupulous care of the scientific work. If the DECC, or any other public or private organization, has taken an interest in this technology, I suggest them to get in touch and discuss any possible business agreement with me.

    Thank you for your support and your balance in pointing out to me such important and sensitive questions.
    Best regards
    Andrea Rossi

    | Rossi’s Cold Fusion 2.0 - Independent eCat News
     
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    Why doesn't Josephson contact one of these "customers" and just observe them testing the device?
     
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    So, why can't this Joesphson guy simply wait until the "customers" purchase a unit and then go and watch the magic happen. Are the customers going to be just as secretive?
     
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    Think about it. What's the hurry? The more customers who buy this gizmo, the more exposure to the market. Word of mouth is the best and cheapest marketing tool.

    The more I read into this product, the more horse shit I smell.

    That scam I am, I do not like that scam I am. I do not like him here or there- I do not like him anywhere.
     
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    Andrea Rossi
    November 28th, 2011 at 1:15 AM

    Dear Hank Mills (regarding the answer to RH):
    I am very sorry, but I must say I do not agree on the fact that further public tests could have any importance, the puppett-snakes would increase the attacks ( they are paid for this from the puppetteers) and the Customers would be disturbed from the exposition. The real duty now is to make good working plants. Nevertheless I have deep respect for your intellectual honesty, I know you want to help us; I just do not agree. New public tests could only make me lose time just to replicate the usual clownery rising with the usual aggression, whatever we do; by the way: if they think that this technology does not work, I wonder: why are they so aggressive against it? If it doesn’t work, it will die by itself; for example: there are around many wannabe competitors I know perfectly have nothing working really: did you ever see any comment of mine regarding their work? Did you ever read an attack from me to a competitor regarding the fiascos of their stuff? (and believe me: I know everything of everybody).
    Warm Regards,
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    Theres one thing that would prove it to me…
    Here is how it would go
    1# Set up the e-cat
    2# Run power through e-cat
    3# Once ready for sustain mode-- allow it to go into sustain mode!
    4# Once electric system is ready(steam to electric) unplug the plug from the power outlet.
    5# Plug the power "generated by the steam" into the fans, coolent system and what ever that needs to be working. Now you have a loop. No power in or out, no way!
    6# Get a web cam, turn it on and make a web page on your offical site called e-cat t.v.
    7# Run it for 6 months straight for the world to see!

    All that would be attached is the water hose, but the power supply would loop back into its self.
    THIS WOULD CONVINCE ME and likely make every last scienctist on gods earth crap there selfs. Me, I’d be convinced within a week.
     

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