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You are correct. It's not only the health care industry, but most all others. GREED influences corporate America, which is aided and abetted by Washington politics. Many industries are corrupt, including the U.S. government.It was GREED that caused the profession to explode with price gouging and corruption.Litigation fucked up the system. Perhaps we need more litigation.Capitalism at it's best...
What capitalism? The government sets almost ALL the rules of engagement in healthcare. There is almost zero competition in the medical device because of the government, the insurance mandated by the government to providers and the list goes on and on.
But do not let the facts get in the way of a good old socialist yammering of the "workings of capitalism" where there is none.
Government fucked the system up, therefore we need more government!
Really? So, why just the medical profession? Most people have no idea how to grow their own food, most cannot legally build their own house.
Aren't these professions also ripe for greed?
Methinks you are barking up the wrong tree.
Mark
And healthcare is not a necessity. It'
Capitalism at it's best...
What capitalism? The government sets almost ALL the rules of engagement in healthcare. There is almost zero competition in the medical device because of the government, the insurance mandated by the government to providers and the list goes on and on.
But do not let the facts get in the way of a good old socialist yammering of the "workings of capitalism" where there is none.
Government fucked the system up, therefore we need more government!
It's pretty typical in today's society. Especially blaming capitalism where there is no such thing taking place. Most of these fucks just do not know who the real enemy is and have been thoroughly duped into believing capitalism = corporatism.
It hasn't been squeezed by government. A lack of regulation has healthcare providers and insurers ripping each other off to the point that no one can afford some of the crappiest healthcare in the world. Unless you are wealthy, you are not getting this "wonderful" and "advanced" healthcare you see on House.
This is absolutely laughable. A lack of regulations?
Just like deregulation led to the housing bubble. We need rules. Anarcho-capitalism does nothing good for society. Now don't get me wrong, I am not a fan of big government either. We could do away with most of the laws out there today as far as I'm concerned. But in the areas where were really SHOULD have regulation and government oversight there is none. That is no coincidence. Basic "look over here" while they screw us over there.
You are correct. It's not only the health care industry, but most all others. GREED influences corporate America, which is aided and abetted by Washington politics. Many industries are corrupt, including the U.S. government.It was GREED that caused the profession to explode with price gouging and corruption.Litigation fucked up the system. Perhaps we need more litigation.What capitalism? The government sets almost ALL the rules of engagement in healthcare. There is almost zero competition in the medical device because of the government, the insurance mandated by the government to providers and the list goes on and on.
But do not let the facts get in the way of a good old socialist yammering of the "workings of capitalism" where there is none.
Government fucked the system up, therefore we need more government!
Really? So, why just the medical profession? Most people have no idea how to grow their own food, most cannot legally build their own house.
Aren't these professions also ripe for greed?
Methinks you are barking up the wrong tree.
Mark
It hasn't been squeezed by government. A lack of regulation has healthcare providers and insurers ripping each other off to the point that no one can afford some of the crappiest healthcare in the world. Unless you are wealthy, you are not getting this "wonderful" and "advanced" healthcare you see on House.
This is absolutely laughable. A lack of regulations?
Just like deregulation led to the housing bubble. We need rules. Anarcho-capitalism does nothing good for society. Now don't get me wrong, I am not a fan of big government either. We could do away with most of the laws out there today as far as I'm concerned. But in the areas where were really SHOULD have regulation and government oversight there is none. That is no coincidence. Basic "look over here" while they screw us over there.
What was "deregulated"? Were Fannie and Freddie deregulated?
It hasn't been squeezed by government. A lack of regulation has healthcare providers and insurers ripping each other off to the point that no one can afford some of the crappiest healthcare in the world. Unless you are wealthy, you are not getting this "wonderful" and "advanced" healthcare you see on House.
This is absolutely laughable. A lack of regulations?
Just like deregulation led to the housing bubble. We need rules. Anarcho-capitalism does nothing good for society. Now don't get me wrong, I am not a fan of big government either. We could do away with most of the laws out there today as far as I'm concerned. But in the areas where were really SHOULD have regulation and government oversight there is none. That is no coincidence. Basic "look over here" while they screw us over there.
What was "deregulated"? Were Fannie and Freddie deregulated?
Yes, they were. So was a lot of Wall Street at the time.
It hasn't been squeezed by government. A lack of regulation has healthcare providers and insurers ripping each other off to the point that no one can afford some of the crappiest healthcare in the world. Unless you are wealthy, you are not getting this "wonderful" and "advanced" healthcare you see on House.
This is absolutely laughable. A lack of regulations?
Just like deregulation led to the housing bubble. We need rules. Anarcho-capitalism does nothing good for society. Now don't get me wrong, I am not a fan of big government either. We could do away with most of the laws out there today as far as I'm concerned. But in the areas where were really SHOULD have regulation and government oversight there is none. That is no coincidence. Basic "look over here" while they screw us over there.
What was "deregulated"? Were Fannie and Freddie deregulated?
Yes, they were. So was a lot of Wall Street at the time.
Sorry. You're not making a lick of sense. Do you know what Fannie and Freddy were?
Capitalism at it's best...
What capitalism? The government sets almost ALL the rules of engagement in healthcare. There is almost zero competition in the medical device because of the government, the insurance mandated by the government to providers and the list goes on and on.
But do not let the facts get in the way of a good old socialist yammering of the "workings of capitalism" where there is none.
Yes, I'm a Bama fan. I was born and raised in Alabama. I have lived here in Georgia since 1987 though. I'm proud to be a Bama fan. But, I have lived and worked in 13 different states.Capitalism at it's best...
What capitalism? The government sets almost ALL the rules of engagement in healthcare. There is almost zero competition in the medical device because of the government, the insurance mandated by the government to providers and the list goes on and on.
But do not let the facts get in the way of a good old socialist yammering of the "workings of capitalism" where there is none.
Do make allowances, he's a Bama fan
I tend to pull at hangnails, which sometimes results in an infected finger. This happened twice while I was in the Marine Corps (in the mid-50s). Both times I strolled over to "sick bay" and was examined by an enlisted rank Navy Medical Corpsman -- who handed me a little box of penicillin tablets and told me to take two every two hours. Both times the swelling was down and the infection was gone by next morning.
Later, as a civilian, when an infection started up I would call my GP for an "emergency appointment." Then, for a quick glance and a penicillin prescription my insurance company (GHI) was billed $110.
But that was gentle by comparison to the time when an infection started late on a Friday afternoon, too late for a GP appointment and too risky to wait 'til Monday. So off to the local hospital's Emergency Room, where I waited about two hours to be interviewed by a social worker who filled out about six pages of redundant information.
Then I waited another hour to be led into a ward, told to get into a bed (fully clothed) and covered with a sheet, where I waited about another hour to be "seen" by a tired-looking intern who seemed disgusted at the petty nature of my complaint. Instead of just writing a prescription for the penicillin, which we both knew was all I neded. But in spite of my objection this guy insisted on lancing my finger and inserting a drain -- then giving me the prescription.
The bottom line to that systematic rip-off was a $675 bill to my insurance company for "Emergency Surgery." This was before I became eligible for Medicare, which would have gotten the same bill, which would ultimately have gone to the taxpayers
$675 for something that probably cost the Navy Medical Corps about fifteen cents!
Another military example occurred during field maneuvers in the Philippines when a painful golf-ball-size boil formed on my left inner thigh, putting me out of action. A Navy Field Corpsman, no older than I was, gave me a shot of novocaine, lanced the boil, inserted a drain, dressed the cut, gave me a penicillin shot and a little box of penicillin tablets. And I was back on my bulldozer nest day!
The point of all this, and the question I have, is what happens to all these military medics when they get out? Why are there not walk-in clinics comparable to Navy sick bays available to bring such minor medical problems to? My $675 emergency room adventure could have been handled by a former medic for about a $20 fee -- as could the majority of routine emergency room treatments.
But rest assured the American Medical Association would bring heavy pressure to bear against any such proposal.
the greed is not the doctors but the insurance companies......lets not forget when they made the decisions according to profit margins and let people die....seems people have forgotten the horrors of insurance companies making the decisions on who lives and who dies based on how profitable it is for the company....
the greed is not the doctors but the insurance companies......lets not forget when they made the decisions according to profit margins and let people die....seems people have forgotten the horrors of insurance companies making the decisions on who lives and who dies based on how profitable it is for the company....
The "greed" is with people who don't want to face reality. Let's cut to the chase of the real problem underlying our national health care delusion: everyone wants to live forever and no one wants to pay for it. When you look at where the bulk of our health care dollars are being wasted, it's in pointless end-of-life spending. We need to get it through our heads that it's stupid to blow the family savings keeping grandma alive for an extra three months.
the greed is not the doctors but the insurance companies......lets not forget when they made the decisions according to profit margins and let people die....seems people have forgotten the horrors of insurance companies making the decisions on who lives and who dies based on how profitable it is for the company....
The "greed" is with people who don't want to face reality. Let's cut to the chase of the real problem underlying our national health care delusion: everyone wants to live forever and no one wants to pay for it. When you look at where the bulk of our health care dollars are being wasted, it's in pointless end-of-life spending. We need to get it through our heads that it's stupid to blow the family savings keeping grandma alive for an extra three months.
There is some truth in that, but it's not the whole story. My grandmother spent a fortune on medical care in the last ten years of her life. On the other hand, she also watched every penny, and was furious whenever she saw things like double billing, other billing errors, blatant abuses of one company to another with her in the middle. Outright fraud in many instances, but no one to report it to, and no one who wanted to listen when she did. Sometimes she felt she was getting ripped off personally, but for the most part, what she saw was just systematic fraud going unchecked.
Yes, some people do have choices, but not everyone. It's impossible for everyone to pay the cost of proper health care. And, since it's a necessity, debt or spending life savings are choices we're forced into. We can't expect or allow everyone to just die on the streets because of the high cost of health care. We are a humane and civil society that tends to care for others, even it means a portion of our tax dollars are spent on the poor and less fortunate among us.the greed is not the doctors but the insurance companies......lets not forget when they made the decisions according to profit margins and let people die....seems people have forgotten the horrors of insurance companies making the decisions on who lives and who dies based on how profitable it is for the company....
The "greed" is with people who don't want to face reality. Let's cut to the chase of the real problem underlying our national health care delusion: everyone wants to live forever and no one wants to pay for it. When you look at where the bulk of our health care dollars are being wasted, it's in pointless end-of-life spending. We need to get it through our heads that it's stupid to blow the family savings keeping grandma alive for an extra three months.
There is some truth in that, but it's not the whole story. My grandmother spent a fortune on medical care in the last ten years of her life. On the other hand, she also watched every penny, and was furious whenever she saw things like double billing, other billing errors, blatant abuses of one company to another with her in the middle. Outright fraud in many instances, but no one to report it to, and no one who wanted to listen when she did. Sometimes she felt she was getting ripped off personally, but for the most part, what she saw was just systematic fraud going unchecked.
It sounds like she was spending her own money, which hits on the what enables the foolish spending in the first place: the fact is, most of us aren't. We've gone to ridiculous extremes to avoid paying for our own health care and shift the costs on to the rest of society. That removes the crucial incentive to be prudent with personal health care spending.
When families have to make these decisions, when it's presented as a choice between blowing the family savings or squeezing every last minute out of life, people make better decisions. My own father was faced with that dilemma, and chose to accept reality and leave his wife with a decent retirement, rather than live his last few years clinging to life in a hospital bed and leave her with nothing.
Yes, some people do have choices, but not everyone. It's impossible for everyone to pay the cost of proper health care. And, since it's a necessity, debt or spending life savings are choices we're forced into. We can't expect or allow everyone to just die on the streets because of the high cost of health care. We are a humane and civil society that tends to care for others, even it means a portion of our tax dollars are spent on the poor and less fortunate among us.When families have to make these decisions, when it's presented as a choice between blowing the family savings or squeezing every last minute out of life, people make better decisions. My own father was faced with that dilemma, and chose to accept reality and leave his wife with a decent retirement, rather than live his last few years clinging to life in a hospital bed and leave her with nothing.
the greed is not the doctors but the insurance companies......lets not forget when they made the decisions according to profit margins and let people die....seems people have forgotten the horrors of insurance companies making the decisions on who lives and who dies based on how profitable it is for the company....
The "greed" is with people who don't want to face reality. Let's cut to the chase of the real problem underlying our national health care delusion: everyone wants to live forever and no one wants to pay for it. When you look at where the bulk of our health care dollars are being wasted, it's in pointless end-of-life spending. We need to get it through our heads that it's stupid to blow the family savings keeping grandma alive for an extra three months.
There is some truth in that, but it's not the whole story. My grandmother spent a fortune on medical care in the last ten years of her life. On the other hand, she also watched every penny, and was furious whenever she saw things like double billing, other billing errors, blatant abuses of one company to another with her in the middle. Outright fraud in many instances, but no one to report it to, and no one who wanted to listen when she did. Sometimes she felt she was getting ripped off personally, but for the most part, what she saw was just systematic fraud going unchecked.
It sounds like she was spending her own money, which hits on the what enables the foolish spending in the first place: the fact is, most of us aren't. We've gone to ridiculous extremes to avoid paying for our own health care and shift the costs on to the rest of society. That removes the crucial incentive to be prudent with personal health care spending.
When families have to make these decisions, when it's presented as a choice between blowing the family savings or squeezing every last minute out of life, people make better decisions. My own father was faced with that dilemma, and chose to accept reality and leave his wife with a decent retirement, rather than live his last few years clinging to life in a hospital bed and leave her with nothing.
