A Necessity, NOT A Luxury

Sonny Clark

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Just like water, food, shelter, and clothing, proper health care is a necessity. But, because it is a necessity, it has become a racket, a scam, a con, and legalized theft. Those in the medical and health care profession know that people can't set their own bones, stitch themselves up, remove kidney stones, and perform their own organ transplants. We all need those in the health care profession, there's no other choice. When people have no choice, it opens the doors for those that see easy money and a means to take unfair advantage of the situation.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/12/18/health/cost-of-health-care-poll.html?ref=health
•A bill of over $40,000 for the 20 minutes it took a doctor to stitch a cut.
  • • An ambulance ride of only 200 feet that cost $3,421.
  • • A healthy, insured couple “slowly going under” because their premiums, co-pays and deductibles are now twice as high as their mortgage and food costs.

Something is bad wrong when a hospital can charge $1,800 a day for a tiny filthy room, $5.00 for an aspirin, and $20.00 for a breakfast that consist of powdered eggs and wheat toast. Something is bad wrong when a doctor can charge $300.00 for an office visit that consist of a five minute conversation. Something is bad wrong when a single blood pressure pill cost $200.00.

Pharmaceuticals, labs, clinics, hospitals, doctors, and others in the health care and medical profession, are exercising price gouging and getting away with it. Insurance companies are also contributing to this outrage. But, even though insurance companies are taking part in the scam, it's actually those that over-bill for services that are to blame for the soaring cost to consumers. Insurance companies operate on the information contained in bills submitted by health care providers.

What makes matters even worse, is the fact that many receive less than satisfactory service, and some even die from mal-practice and infections acquired while in the hospital. Doctors often try to justify their fees by stating that they pay enormous amounts for mal-practice insurance. Well, if everyone in the medical and health care industry would clean up their own profession, there would be far fewer mal-practice law suits.

Another excuse given for high cost is the cost of equipment such as MRI machines. An MRI cost around $4,000 and up. How long does it take at that rate before the machine has paid for itself? And, does the cost for an MRI dramatically decrease after the machine has paid for itself? The bottom line is that health care is a scam and it's a legal scam. Its legalized theft. And, it's bankrupting America.
 
Capitalism at it's best...

What capitalism? The government sets almost ALL the rules of engagement in healthcare. There is almost zero competition in the medical device because of the government, the insurance mandated by the government to providers and the list goes on and on.

But do not let the facts get in the way of a good old socialist yammering of the "workings of capitalism" where there is none.
 
Capitalism at it's best...

What capitalism? The government sets almost ALL the rules of engagement in healthcare. There is almost zero competition in the medical device because of the government, the insurance mandated by the government to providers and the list goes on and on.

But do not let the facts get in the way of a good old socialist yammering of the "workings of capitalism" where there is none.

Government fucked the system up, therefore we need more government!
 
And healthcare is not a necessity. It'
Capitalism at it's best...

What capitalism? The government sets almost ALL the rules of engagement in healthcare. There is almost zero competition in the medical device because of the government, the insurance mandated by the government to providers and the list goes on and on.

But do not let the facts get in the way of a good old socialist yammering of the "workings of capitalism" where there is none.

Government fucked the system up, therefore we need more government!

It's pretty typical in today's society. Especially blaming capitalism where there is no such thing taking place. Most of these fucks just do not know who the real enemy is and have been thoroughly duped into believing capitalism = corporatism.
 
This "Affordable Care Act" is not affordable to me.

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Healthcare is a necessity. But Obamacare simply forces us to participate in the vile and corrupt scam of healthcare providers and insurers without even addressing why the system is broken to begin with.
 
Capitalism at it's best...

What capitalism? The government sets almost ALL the rules of engagement in healthcare. There is almost zero competition in the medical device because of the government, the insurance mandated by the government to providers and the list goes on and on.

But do not let the facts get in the way of a good old socialist yammering of the "workings of capitalism" where there is none.

Government fucked the system up, therefore we need more government!
Litigation fucked up the system. Perhaps we need more litigation.
 
Capitalism at it's best...

What capitalism? The government sets almost ALL the rules of engagement in healthcare. There is almost zero competition in the medical device because of the government, the insurance mandated by the government to providers and the list goes on and on.

But do not let the facts get in the way of a good old socialist yammering of the "workings of capitalism" where there is none.

Government fucked the system up, therefore we need more government!
Litigation fucked up the system. Perhaps we need more litigation.
It was GREED that caused the profession to explode with price gouging and corruption.
 
Capitalism at it's best...

What capitalism? The government sets almost ALL the rules of engagement in healthcare. There is almost zero competition in the medical device because of the government, the insurance mandated by the government to providers and the list goes on and on.

But do not let the facts get in the way of a good old socialist yammering of the "workings of capitalism" where there is none.

Government fucked the system up, therefore we need more government!
Litigation fucked up the system. Perhaps we need more litigation.
It was GREED that caused the profession to explode with price gouging and corruption.

Yeah, and the government is the greedy one with their price gouging, special interest group mandates and corportist activities.
The profession has been squeezed to death by government. Just like almost every other economic sector of the country.
 
Healthcare is a necessity. But Obamacare simply forces us to participate in the vile and corrupt scam of healthcare providers and insurers without even addressing why the system is broken to begin with.
Absolutely correct.

And all the partisanship on the subject is just show. Obamacare was invented by Romney. Two parties, one agenda. It's like this with so many issues. take illegal immigration too for example. Bush did NOTHING about it, because it's good for big business, which Republicans love. Now Obama is actually pushing for more protections for illegals, under the guise of left-wing humanitarianism, but in reality because he was installed by the same people that Bush worked for.
 
Capitalism at it's best...

What capitalism? The government sets almost ALL the rules of engagement in healthcare. There is almost zero competition in the medical device because of the government, the insurance mandated by the government to providers and the list goes on and on.

But do not let the facts get in the way of a good old socialist yammering of the "workings of capitalism" where there is none.

Government fucked the system up, therefore we need more government!
Litigation fucked up the system. Perhaps we need more litigation.
It was GREED that caused the profession to explode with price gouging and corruption.

Really? So, why just the medical profession? Most people have no idea how to grow their own food, most cannot legally build their own house.

Aren't these professions also ripe for greed?

Methinks you are barking up the wrong tree.

Mark
 
Yeah, and the government is the greedy one with their price gouging, special interest group mandates and corportist activities.
The profession has been squeezed to death by government. Just like almost every other economic sector of the country.

It hasn't been squeezed by government. A lack of regulation has healthcare providers and insurers ripping each other off to the point that no one can afford some of the crappiest healthcare in the world. Unless you are wealthy, you are not getting this "wonderful" and "advanced" healthcare you see on House.

I have a Cadillac healthcare plan, and was in the hospital a few weeks ago after a serious trauma incident. I was brought to the hospital unconscious, and released a few hours later with a script for pain meds and told I had a concussion. turns out I have a fractured eye socket and knee, that they totally missed. The volunteer EMT's from my local fire department tell my they told the admitting physician that I had a knee injury as well, but they never even looked at it. They were focused on my head injury and laceration, and completely missed the broken knee. Totally amateur. I am an EMT myself, and one of the most very basic things you do is examine the ENTIRE patient, especially one who is unconscious after a trauma incident.
 
It hasn't been squeezed by government. A lack of regulation has healthcare providers and insurers ripping each other off to the point that no one can afford some of the crappiest healthcare in the world. Unless you are wealthy, you are not getting this "wonderful" and "advanced" healthcare you see on House.

This is absolutely laughable. A lack of regulations?


:lmao:
 
Capitalism at it's best...

What capitalism? The government sets almost ALL the rules of engagement in healthcare. There is almost zero competition in the medical device because of the government, the insurance mandated by the government to providers and the list goes on and on.

But do not let the facts get in the way of a good old socialist yammering of the "workings of capitalism" where there is none.

Government fucked the system up, therefore we need more government!
Litigation fucked up the system. Perhaps we need more litigation.
It was GREED that caused the profession to explode with price gouging and corruption.

Yeah, and the government is the greedy one with their price gouging, special interest group mandates and corportist activities.
The profession has been squeezed to death by government. Just like almost every other economic sector of the country.
Yes, the government is playing a huge role in the industry. With the money flowing from Lobbyists and special interest groups, our law makers are obligated to favor the health care industry. The government is making a lot of people rich, or richer, through legislation that directly affects the health care industry. Legislation is for sale every single day of the week.
 
It hasn't been squeezed by government. A lack of regulation has healthcare providers and insurers ripping each other off to the point that no one can afford some of the crappiest healthcare in the world. Unless you are wealthy, you are not getting this "wonderful" and "advanced" healthcare you see on House.

This is absolutely laughable. A lack of regulations?


:lmao:

Just like deregulation led to the housing bubble. We need rules. Anarcho-capitalism does nothing good for society. Now don't get me wrong, I am not a fan of big government either. We could do away with most of the laws out there today as far as I'm concerned. But in the areas where were really SHOULD have regulation and government oversight there is none. That is no coincidence. Basic "look over here" while they screw us over there.
 

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