CDZ A Moderate Maifesto

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    I think we're close, yeah.
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    We have always been to an extent. Catch phrases, and the "rock" praise is a constant.
     
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    Will there be s'mores?

    I'm there if there's going to be s'mores.
     
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    The internet is our tower of babble.

    I find that precious few people can distinguish between ideology and identity to begin with, and do not orient themselves around understanding the tenets of the ideology, but merely repeating what others of their ideological label are saying. They don't ask themselves, for instance, "is this a liberal ideal", only "what are those calling themselves liberal saying?" They don't ask "is this liberal", only "are you a liberal?" This has led to some absolutely enormous and downright silly gulfs between the actual ideology and the stances taken by those who apply the label to themselves.

    It's like the difference between being a cook and just following a recipe. A cook understands the processes, while somebody just banging around in the kitchen only wants some written instructions to follow.
     
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    As there are no perfect systems, I choose the current, with alterations. No system is immune to abuse, stagnation, and innovation.
     
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    the larger and more complex a country and the politics gets, the inability of the middle class to govern itself grows right along with the size of the problems. Time to consider restricting voting somewhat, like to those who pass basic civics tests for starters, and raising the age of eligibility to 25, and several other restrictions as well. I would throw in performing some time in public service, for instance. Not popular ideas, though, because of the NAMBLA type 'logic' spewed by propagandists on all sides of the spectrum. I would also take private money out of it entirely, and require our media that uses the public airwaves to provide free programs covering the candidates as part of their 'leases'; it's just stupid to let them rake in billions upon billions for providing time for our own elections on our own publicly owned airwaves. There are simple and easy ways to do this that won't disrupt their own fare of idiotic broadcasting.
     
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    Interesting thought, but I don't see the voting restrictions happening.

    This seems like a cultural issue to me, a natural extension of the "Selfie Generation", in which shallow ego and narcissism have taken over virtually all facets of our society. Each end of the spectrum is being pulled in that direction by forces who have a vested interest in seeing deeper divisions, but we are still ultimately choosing to behave this way.

    When something becomes cultural, it becomes much more difficult to fix.
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    Cultures change. When I read the statements of a few so called left radicals that they were right radicals, it hit home. They wanted to BE radicals, ideology was picked up as the path was altered.
     
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    Well, perhaps presidents should appoint actors, magicians, singers and comedians to head the departments of government. LOL
     
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