a message from our military..

[bodecea]

Not my problem you didn't like it...now go dump on another thread dear..

It's not that I didn't like it, I know the same pic has been posted on here already and that they do not speak for the military. There are vets at those rallies, one even has a ruptured spleen thanks to the police.
Get a clue!

yawn...get a life.
They don't want ruptured spleens, they shouldn't be OCCUPYING others property and conduct protest like civilized people do. And IF there are vets there, shame on them too.

Shame on people trying to affect change. Gotcha, Steph.....

 

[bodecea]

Shame on any vet whose service has not taught him/her more honor, accountability, and self-discipline than to associate with a mob in the street.

service to whom ? honouring what ?

The Constitution of the United States of America!

Ah, so the Constitution forbids protests against preceived wrongs.




No.....wait.

 

[Salt Jones]

Shame on any vet whose service has not taught him/her more honor, accountability, and self-discipline than to associate with a mob in the street.

Does that go for the vets who marched in the civil rights movement?

P.S. That's why a didn't attend the crackerfest tea party rallies.

Do you get the difference between trying to protect the constitution (which is what the civil rights movement was about), and trying to destroy the constitution (which is what OWS is about)? What did we take an oath to, an ideology, or the constitution? You know what we all swore to support and defend, and while you and I may be night and day politically, I think we agree on that much. I happen to believe that associating with groups that advocate insurrection and/or anarchy runs counter to that oath.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

 

[eots]

Shame on any vet whose service has not taught him/her more honor, accountability, and self-discipline than to associate with a mob in the street.

service to whom ? honouring what ?

The Constitution of the United States of America!

the irony

 

[Luissa]

Not my probem you didn't like it...now go dump on another thread dear..

It's not that I didn't like it, I know the same pic has been posted on here already and that they do not speak for the military. There are vets at those rallies, one even has a ruptured spleen thanks to the police.
Get a clue!

Fuck that Luissa.... I blame the vet. If he wasnt there acting like a fool, he wouldnt have been in any trouble.

Stop blaming the cops.... they have their hands full thanks to those asshole OWS punks!

Have you seen the video? I had no idea just walking and doing so far away from the cops was causing trouble. He wasn't even taunting them with words. I will tell you the same thing I told Stephanie. Get a clue.

 

[Luissa]

Good thing there is a video showing him doing nothing wrong.
Get a clue!

Yep.... its always the cops!

Did I say that? You might want to ask me what my opinion is before assuming anything.
As for this case there is video proving he did nothing wrong. Get a clue.

 

[The Gadfly]

Does that go for the vets who marched in the civil rights movement?

P.S. That's why a didn't attend the crackerfest tea party rallies.

Do you get the difference between trying to protect the constitution (which is what the civil rights movement was about), and trying to destroy the constitution (which is what OWS is about)? What did we take an oath to, an ideology, or the constitution? You know what we all swore to support and defend, and while you and I may be night and day politically, I think we agree on that much. I happen to believe that associating with groups that advocate insurrection and/or anarchy runs counter to that oath.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Do note that VERY important word! That right means just what it says; it does not contain within it any "right" to riot, incite riot, destroy public or private property, defecate, urinate and fornicate in public, or resist lawful arrest, or defy lawful orders from appropriate authorities. A lynch mob is also an "assembly", but it is NOT, and never has been, either peaceable, nor constitutionally protected. That right, like all constitutional rights, ends where abuse of the rights of one's fellow citizens begins. An assembly ceases to be "peaceable", when the first stone or bottle is thrown, when the first act of vandalism occurs, or with the first act that poses a reasonable threat to public health or public safety, or with the first attempt to incite a crowd assembled to violence.

Not every mob, well or ill-organized, is a Peaceable assembly protected by the constitution; I should not have to say this, but I would not condone a veteran joining a lynch mob or any other group intent on provoking violence or public disorder. We of all Americans should know better, and discipline ourselves and our personal conduct accordingly. If you want to see this sort of thing done the way Americans SHOULD do it, look at the civil rights marches in the South in the sixties. What you WON'T see (in spite of extreme provocation), is violence or threats of violence by the demonstrators; what you WON'T see, is indecent behavior on the part of the demonstrators; what you WON'T see, is any threat of rioting on the part of the demonstrators; what you WON'T see, is acts of vandalism on the part of the demonstrators. That's the RIGHT way, and any vet could be part of such a demonstration and such LIMITED, DISCIPLINED, civil disobedience, in good conscience. The difference between that, and the behavior of OWS, is a matter of plain common sense, and if you cannot see that, you are blinded by ideology.