A mangled Constitution

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    I asked you what you are talking about, explain the inconsistency, there are many, which most likely wont change that you understood what I said out of context.
     
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    I did, you have not, and you don't get to glitz blitz, son. Explain clearly, and we can talk.
     
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    the gubmint created the problem in the first place
     
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    That's a start. Specifics, please.
     
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    Truth. The Reconstruction amendments were passed with the southern states under martial law and with the condition that they pass the amendments to be reinstated to the union.
     
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    However even if they were included, todays interpretation would still primarily be fraudulent.

    Today the interpretation is 'sold' to the people under the guise of their falsely claimed authority and the precedence set by that falsely claimed authority.

    In other words 99.99% of the american people including lawyers are brainwashed into believing that SCROTUMUS MAXIMUS was 'intended' to be the "Ultimate Authority on the meaning of the Constitution", which of course removes the gubmint from being 'under' the control of the people to the people being 'under' control of the gubmint.

    The Ultimate Authority is the Jury, which of course is held to the same standards set forth by the same fraudulent authority.

    Its very easy to see that this country was set up to be a country that adheres to the 'rule of law' not dictating state statutes and the greatest evil being the necessity to defeat summary judgment and the supreme court having the authority to pick and choose which cases they will or will not take.

    .......and of course anyone who is capable of creating a national movement to correct the fraud (Martin Luther King) is dead by assassination by those who would not allow the gubmint to rightfully be 'under' the people as intended.

    Welcome to the UKofA circus..
     
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    I have long attacked the 14th Amendment as being illegally ratified. It has little to do with slavery... except to the extent that the 14th Amendment was an attempt to nullify unalienable Rights and replace them with government created Rights.

    I'm glad that you are questioning not only the 14th Amendment, but that we are able to discuss the unconstitutional method the Constitution is being interpreted so as to change its meaning 180 degrees opposite of what it was intended to mean.
     
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    The Bill of Rights disappeared the day the illegally ratified 14th Amendment was accepted as law.

    The Bill of Rights codified pre-existing laws (see the Heller decision, for example.) Codified from what? That answer would be the Declaration of Independence. The Declaration of Independence states:

    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

    That word unalienable has a meaning. the 14th Amendment changed that and changed unalienable Rights, given by a Creator into government granted "rights" that could be taken away through the government's concept of due process. Those two concepts are antithetical to one another.
     
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    You presented a dishonest narrative since LATER most of the states (who first rejected it) RATIFIED the 14th Amendment, from Wikipedia:

    On June 16, 1866, Secretary of State William Seward transmitted the Fourteenth Amendment to the governors of the several states for its ratification. State legislatures in every formerly Confederate state, with the exception of Tennessee, refused to ratify it. This refusal led to the passage of the Reconstruction Acts. Ignoring the existing state governments, military government was imposed until new civil governments were established and the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified.[20] It also prompted Congress to pass a law on March 2, 1867, requiring that a former Confederate state must ratify the Fourteenth Amendment before "said State shall be declared entitled to representation in Congress".[21]

    The first twenty-eight states to ratify the Fourteenth Amendment were:

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    • North Carolina – July 4, 1868 (after rejection – December 14, 1866)
    • Louisiana – July 9, 1868 (after rejection – February 6, 1867)
    • South Carolina – July 9, 1868 (after rejection – December 20, 1866)
    • Georgia – July 21, 1868 (after rejection – November 9, 1866)
    • Virginia – October 8, 1869 (after rejection – January 9, 1867)

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    It was ratified by 1868, July 20.

    That makes 28 states have ratified the Amendment, a 2/3rd majority.
     
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    The 14th Amendment was illegally ratified:

    The Fourteenth Amendment is Unconstitutional - Judge L.H. Perez

    Pure 14th Amendment Study For Proof Of Unconstitutionality

    https://www.constitution.org/14ll/no14th.htm
     

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