CDZ A look at Trump’s racism—is it as bad as people think?

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Interesting read. If you don’t (want to) read the article, please refrain from participating in the thread if you’d be so kind. The point here is to argue the points made in the article. I know some people will likely have the urge to answer the question the title poses without reading the content, but it’ll probably be obvious who did and didn’t take the time to read it.

Is Donald Trump Racist, Or Does The Media Just Paint Him That Way?
 
I did not see any points in the article worthy of discussion---I do not consider
Trump to be "racist"
 
  • Building a wall is RACIST
  • Standing up for the national anthem is RACIST
  • Fighting terrorism is RACIST
  • Questioning a Gold Star father who cussed him out at the DNC is RACIST
  • Trying to keep cross-dressers out of girls bathrooms is RACIST
  • Forcing welfare reform is RACIST
  • Supporting cops is RACIST
  • Telling the Eagles to go fuck themselves is RACIST
 
to all of the above----NONE OF THOSE PROGRAMS OR ACTIONS ARE RACIST---anybody??
 
Hard to take serious if they don't mention the Central Park 5 case.
 
  • Building a wall is RACIST
  • Standing up for the national anthem is RACIST
  • Fighting terrorism is RACIST
  • Questioning a Gold Star father who cussed him out at the DNC is RACIST
  • Trying to keep cross-dressers out of girls bathrooms is RACIST
  • Forcing welfare reform is RACIST
  • Supporting cops is RACIST
  • Telling the Eagles to go fuck themselves is RACIST

Yes. Everything some mentally ill gimp and PC Nazi says is racist is racist. Except when they advocate racist stuff. Then it's 'empathy' and 'humanity' and 'diversity' or something.

And, the link is just to a collection of memes, of which the evidence for Trump's 'racism' is non-existent. To wit:


I recently came across a Vox article called “Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2016, explained” by German Lopez, and before I finished the article it was apparent to me that the term “racism” does not appropriately apply to many of the scenarios Lopez describes regarding Trump’s words and deeds. He gives several reasons as to why Trump is racist, and save for a few, the majority of reasons do not properly fit the definition of racism.


According to Merriam-Webster, the definition of racism is “a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.”

The above definition is important because, as you will see, Lopez’s article deems many things to be racist just because the situation at hand had Trump, by little or no fault of his own, involved with a racial minority.


The author then goes on to make up weird arguments claiming Trump is a racist, of course. They all think these fake attempts at establishing their 'objectivity n stuff'' allows them to then pull bs out of their asses. It's a stupid and repetitive gimmick, yet another example of how uneducated and dependent on copying each other's 'points' all the time they are. It immediately marks the writers of that sort of drivel as idiots, and should limit their writing to stuff like zoo visits and finger painting critiques.
 
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I'll try to be concise here...

- As laid out in the article, the term "racist" is hardly used according to the actual definition of the word anymore. Look up racism on google's dictionary and you'll find an incredibly biased and politically charged definition.

- "Racist" is just a taboo word, for a long time, like a trump card to play when you really wanted to defame someone and discredit them. What reason does anyone have to label someone as a "racist" other than to justify in their head why they don't have to take that person seriously?

- Along with that, combined with the hard-left's identity politics and grouping people together based on race/gender/ethnicity, the term "racist" was/is seen as a tool to use to not have to pay attention to someone. As such, they've gone to the well with it so much that's it's really cheapened it's affect. Now, any remotely negative situation that happens between two people of different races ends with the whitest one being labeled a racist, and therefore dismissing and disregarding anything they have to say.

- This is particularly useful because it's perfectly suited to coddle intellectual laziness. Arguing the merits of your position is hard and lengthy work. It requires critical thought, deep analysis and the possibility that you didn't or weren't able to think of everything, or had missed something that should have factored in there. As such, you'd then have to admit you're wrong to some degree. And admitting you're wrong is a big no-no when you're an authoritarian arguing that you should be in position to tell other people how they should live their life.

- In order to avoid the above, just call someone a racist. In doing so, we don't have to pay attention to that person or the points they're making because their status as a racist automatically disproves anything that might challenge our preferred dogma.

I tried to use general language, because both the left and the right will use the same tactics to disregard each other and avoid having to take on their ideas. The left uses "racist" and "transphobe" and "homophobe" and "islamaphobe" to avoid any debate on those issues while the right uses "commie" and "socialist" and such. It's more illustrative of people's needs to group people under a given label so they can attribute their pre-conceived notions onto them rather than actually listening to what they have to say.
 
Interesting read. If you don’t (want to) read the article, please refrain from participating in the thread if you’d be so kind. The point here is to argue the points made in the article. I know some people will likely have the urge to answer the question the title poses without reading the content, but it’ll probably be obvious who did and didn’t take the time to read it.

Is Donald Trump Racist, Or Does The Media Just Paint Him That Way?


Donald Trump wasn't a racist till he rode down that escalator........he was buddies with black Americans all across the country until he decided to run for office.....
 
Hard to take serious if they don't mention the Central Park 5 case.

Agreed. I also noticed that they used lots of examples where it could go either way, but they didn't hit on the hard racist actions he's done over the past. Central Park 5, those black people he refused to rent properties to, the list can go on.
 
Hard to take serious if they don't mention the Central Park 5 case.

Agreed. I also noticed that they used lots of examples where it could go either way, but they didn't hit on the hard racist actions he's done over the past. Central Park 5, those black people he refused to rent properties to, the list can go on.


The Central Park 5.....how was his calling for the death penalty for the rapists, racist?
 
I dont think that Trump has strong views on anything.But if racist stances work for him then he will go that way.Doesnt make him a racist but it does make him.................................
 
Hard to take serious if they don't mention the Central Park 5 case.

Agreed. I also noticed that they used lots of examples where it could go either way, but they didn't hit on the hard racist actions he's done over the past. Central Park 5, those black people he refused to rent properties to, the list can go on.


The Central Park 5.....how was his calling for the death penalty for the rapists, racist?

Because they weren't guilty. But, because they were black, Trump wanted them put to death, even though they were innocent. And, if you don't like the Wiki link for this, I'm sure I can find another one, but you should be able to do that yourself. No, the Central Park 5 were NOT guilty.

Central Park jogger case - Wikipedia

The assailant
In 2001, convicted serial rapist and murderer Matias Reyes was already serving a life sentence for other crimes, but he was not at that point a suspect in the Central Park attack on Meili. Reyes met Wise in an upstate New York prison, the Auburn Correctional Facility.[39][51] In 2002, Reyes declared that he was 17 years old on the night of April 19, 1989 when he assaulted and raped the jogger. He said that he had acted alone.[52][53] At the time of the attack, he was working at an East Harlem bodega on Third Avenue and 102nd Street, and living in a van on the street.[53][54] He provided a detailed account of the attack, details of which were corroborated by other evidence.[5] The DNA evidence confirmed his participation in the rape, identifying him as the sole contributor of the semen found in and on the victim "to a factor of one in 6,000,000,000 people".[5] DNA analysis of the strands of hair found in Richardson's underpants established that the hair did not belong to the victim.[55] The victim had been tied up with her T-shirt in a distinctive fashion that Reyes used again on later victims.[5]

Reyes was not prosecuted because the statute of limitations had passed, and thus his admissions did not place him at further risk.[39][56] Reyes had been convicted of raping four other women and killing one of them, and a defense psychiatrist in his trial had concluded that Reyes was not capable of telling the truth.[39]

Recommendation to vacate charges


Yusef Salaam in 2009, seven years after his conviction was vacated
Reyes's confession, plus DNA evidence confirming his participation in the rape, led the office of District Attorney Robert M. Morgenthau to recommend vacating the convictions of the defendants originally found guilty and sentenced to prison.[5] Supporters of the five defendants again claimed that their confessions had been coerced by police. An examination of the inconsistencies between their confessions led the prosecutor to question the veracity of their confessions. DA Morgenthau's office wrote:
 
Interesting read. If you don’t (want to) read the article, please refrain from participating in the thread if you’d be so kind. The point here is to argue the points made in the article. I know some people will likely have the urge to answer the question the title poses without reading the content, but it’ll probably be obvious who did and didn’t take the time to read it.

Is Donald Trump Racist, Or Does The Media Just Paint Him That Way?

The article is a little vague but then again the term is a little vague.

Trump is an old white man with a long series of trophy wives who knows how to play the system. Does he like other rich old white men and the things old white men gravitate towards? Sure. Do old white men not cuss the old white people who wander across the parking lot non apologetically in front of them while cussing the black boys and girls who do? The ones around me do. Does Trump appeal to his fan base by not really criticizing their problems while looking stupid at Hispanic judges? sure he does.

Do racists gravitate towards Trump? Like a moth to a light.

Is Trump a crazy racist? I don't think so.

Is Trump racist? Not intolerably but the man can't control his Twitter or his mouth.

I need examples of a 1 to 10 scale of racism to place him someplace. The world just isn't black and white to borrow a phrase lol.
 
  • Building a wall is RACIST
  • Standing up for the national anthem is RACIST
  • Fighting terrorism is RACIST
  • Questioning a Gold Star father who cussed him out at the DNC is RACIST
  • Trying to keep cross-dressers out of girls bathrooms is RACIST
  • Forcing welfare reform is RACIST
  • Supporting cops is RACIST
  • Telling the Eagles to go fuck themselves is RACIST
Interesting read. If you don’t (want to) read the article, please refrain from participating in the thread if you’d be so kind. The point here is to argue the points made in the article. I know some people will likely have the urge to answer the question the title poses without reading the content, but it’ll probably be obvious who did and didn’t take the time to read it.

Is Donald Trump Racist, Or Does The Media Just Paint Him That Way?

The article is a little vague but then again the term is a little vague.

Trump is an old white man with a long series of trophy wives who knows how to play the system. Does he like other rich old white men and the things old white men gravitate towards? Sure. Do old white men not cuss the old white people who wander across the parking lot non apologetically in front of them while cussing the black boys and girls who do? The ones around me do. Does Trump appeal to his fan base by not really criticizing their problems while looking stupid at Hispanic judges? sure he does.

Do racists gravitate towards Trump? Like a moth to a light.

Is Trump a crazy racist? I don't think so.

Is Trump racist? Not intolerably but the man can't control his Twitter or his mouth.

I need examples of a 1 to 10 scale of racism to place him someplace. The world just isn't black and white to borrow a phrase lol.

What so many do not get is that the white working class(who elected Trump) sees Trump as their hero....someone who tells it like it is....that he is not afraid to speak his mind....that he is a great example of someone exercising free speech....on the other hand we have a lot of coinfused liberals who think not even the President of the USA is entitled to free speech...not hard to see who is right and who is wrong on this matter.

More and more Americans are getting fed up with all this bogus b.s. about racism.(and especially the double standard aka just today it is reported Steve Harvey calls some black basketball players--Gorillas --will he be blacklisted heheh...of course not...aka the double-standard)...as has been said...most people know what black folks are really like....but their desire to be 'respectable' prevents them from telling it like it is.

As more and more Americans become conscious of the fake news and how the msm basically is nothing more than propaganda designed to tear down America...you will see more and more support for Trump. That is a good thing for all who want the truth.
 
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  • Building a wall is RACIST
  • Standing up for the national anthem is RACIST
  • Fighting terrorism is RACIST
  • Questioning a Gold Star father who cussed him out at the DNC is RACIST
  • Trying to keep cross-dressers out of girls bathrooms is RACIST
  • Forcing welfare reform is RACIST
  • Supporting cops is RACIST
  • Telling the Eagles to go fuck themselves is RACIST
Interesting read. If you don’t (want to) read the article, please refrain from participating in the thread if you’d be so kind. The point here is to argue the points made in the article. I know some people will likely have the urge to answer the question the title poses without reading the content, but it’ll probably be obvious who did and didn’t take the time to read it.

Is Donald Trump Racist, Or Does The Media Just Paint Him That Way?

The article is a little vague but then again the term is a little vague.

Trump is an old white man with a long series of trophy wives who knows how to play the system. Does he like other rich old white men and the things old white men gravitate towards? Sure. Do old white men not cuss the old white people who wander across the parking lot non apologetically in front of them while cussing the black boys and girls who do? The ones around me do. Does Trump appeal to his fan base by not really criticizing their problems while looking stupid at Hispanic judges? sure he does.

Do racists gravitate towards Trump? Like a moth to a light.

Is Trump a crazy racist? I don't think so.

Is Trump racist? Not intolerably but the man can't control his Twitter or his mouth.

I need examples of a 1 to 10 scale of racism to place him someplace. The world just isn't black and white to borrow a phrase lol.

What so many do not get is that the white working class sees Trump as someone who tells it like it is....that he is not afraid to speak his mind....that he is a great example of someone exercising free speech....on the other hand we have a lot of coinfused liberals who think not even the President of the USA is entitled to free speech...not hard to see who is right and who is wrong on this matter.

Maybe I'm not understanding.

Are you saying people think Trump is a racist for saying it like he sees it?
 
  • Building a wall is RACIST
  • Standing up for the national anthem is RACIST
  • Fighting terrorism is RACIST
  • Questioning a Gold Star father who cussed him out at the DNC is RACIST
  • Trying to keep cross-dressers out of girls bathrooms is RACIST
  • Forcing welfare reform is RACIST
  • Supporting cops is RACIST
  • Telling the Eagles to go fuck themselves is RACIST
Interesting read. If you don’t (want to) read the article, please refrain from participating in the thread if you’d be so kind. The point here is to argue the points made in the article. I know some people will likely have the urge to answer the question the title poses without reading the content, but it’ll probably be obvious who did and didn’t take the time to read it.

Is Donald Trump Racist, Or Does The Media Just Paint Him That Way?

The article is a little vague but then again the term is a little vague.

Trump is an old white man with a long series of trophy wives who knows how to play the system. Does he like other rich old white men and the things old white men gravitate towards? Sure. Do old white men not cuss the old white people who wander across the parking lot non apologetically in front of them while cussing the black boys and girls who do? The ones around me do. Does Trump appeal to his fan base by not really criticizing their problems while looking stupid at Hispanic judges? sure he does.

Do racists gravitate towards Trump? Like a moth to a light.

Is Trump a crazy racist? I don't think so.

Is Trump racist? Not intolerably but the man can't control his Twitter or his mouth.

I need examples of a 1 to 10 scale of racism to place him someplace. The world just isn't black and white to borrow a phrase lol.

What so many do not get is that the white working class sees Trump as someone who tells it like it is....that he is not afraid to speak his mind....that he is a great example of someone exercising free speech....on the other hand we have a lot of coinfused liberals who think not even the President of the USA is entitled to free speech...not hard to see who is right and who is wrong on this matter.

Maybe I'm not understanding.

Are you saying people think Trump is a racist for saying it like he sees it?

Those sorts attempt to use the term 'racist' as a political weapon without any regards to the truth....it is like some juveniles hurling insults ...calling someone a bigot, a racist etc. means nothing....other than more and more folks are getting fed up with that kind of behavior.....a huge backlash is building and it will greatly benefit the Republicans in the upcoming midterms...when you see how Real Americans vote and how they are fed up with msm propaganda.

More Truth..........The free-speech problem on campus is real. It will ultimately hurt dissidents.

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