A little reminder of how the Rs in power treated the Dems

[MarcATL]

they are hopefully now looking at the dem congressional record looking for the same type of activity.

They will not find it.

Yet people of all stripes will go on to claim the dems are just as bad as the Rs.

Its not true and Im really fucking tired of the lies.

I disagree with you here my friend.

These people are not "of all stripes," they are simply partisan hacks dressed up as Independent, green, or other.

The results of the BushCo. Regime DROVE these lemmings into the closet.

They will, however, come out again to play in the sun once they feel its safe and popular to do so.

 

[Truthmatters]

There are many who pretend now not to be republicans.

I can understand why they dont want people to know they support failed ideas but wouldnt it just be more honest to begin supporting ideas that work?

I will never understand why anyone continues to refuse facts so they can cling to failed ideas.

 

[Truthmatters]

Darkwing why dont you take a look at this article?

 

[Truthmatters]

From the McCarthy era in the 1950s through the Republican takeover of Congress in 1995, no Democratic committee chairman issued a subpoena without either minority consent or a committee vote. In the Clinton years, Republicans chucked that long-standing arrangement and issued more than 1,000 subpoenas to investigate alleged administration and Democratic misconduct, reviewing more than 2 million pages of government documents.

Guess how many subpoenas have been issued to the White House since George Bush took office? Zero -- that's right, zero, the same as the number of open rules debated this year; two fewer than the number of appropriations bills passed on time.

Neo-Cons:

What is your answer for this one?

They pretend not to see

 

[Truthmatters]

the republican congress has a bad reputation for honesty

 

[Oldstyle]

Grow the fuck up. One side behaving badly does not give the other side the right to do likewise. In fact, I seem to remember some lying SOB promising a bipartisan administration. Change in Washington....

The only thing worse than the republicans is the fucking democrats. All pondscum.

Nope , the republicans treated the dems like dirt.

Go read the article , in exchange the Dems have TRIED to get the Rs to help but all they have done is obstruct the process.

This whole thing of the Rs and Ds are equally bad is horseshit.

The Rs are complete assholes

Only one problem with your little "Republicans are meanies but Democrats play fair" rant, TM. When the Democrats controlled the show at the beginning of the Obama Administration, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi acted just as badly. Your cries for bipartisan cooperation "now" after Barry, Harry and Nancy told the GOP to go wait out in the hall for the the first year he was in office is rather amusing. If you kick someone when they are down...and that was EXACTLY what happened that first year...you shouldn't expect them to play nice when they get back up on their feet. After Barry's little "Elections have consequences...I won" speech his chances of bi-partisan cooperation were slim. After Harry and Nancy wrote ObamaCare in locked rooms and crammed that monstrosity down the throats of the Republicans using special proceedures the chances of bi-partisan cooperation were slim and none.

The whines coming from the Oval Office for the past two years since Barry got his super majorities taken away from him show just how unsavvy politically he is. Do the Republicans loath him? Damn right they do...and with good reason.

 

[Truthmatters]

please document your claims

 

[Oldstyle]

You want me to document that the Republicans in the House and Senate loath Barry? Sorry, TM...I didn't realize that would come as a shock to anyone at this point. What, you think they secretly love the guy but won't give him what he wants because he's a Democrat and they are Republicans? They won't work with the guy because he rubbed their noses in it when he was holding all the cards. It was a STUPID thing to do politically but then what does Barry know about how politics works? He was a Junior Senator with a couple years experience under his belt.

 

[Truthmatters]

you cant provide documnetation that what you claimed happened happened?

gee imagine my surprize.

 

[Oldstyle]

you cant provide documnetation that what you claimed happened happened?

gee imagine my surprize.

What do you question, TM? That Barry made the speech? That the Democrats wrote ObamaCare behind locked doors excluding the Republicans? That it was passed using special legislative proceedures?

Have you just woken up after a long coma? Did you MISS the first two years of the Obama Adminstration?

 

[Rozman]

COVER STORY: Time to Go! Inside the Worst Congress Ever : Rolling Stone


Rep. Bill Thomas -- a pugnacious Californian with an enviable ego who was caught having an affair with a pharmaceutical lobbyist -- enjoys a reputation rivaling that of the rotund Sensenbrenner. The lowlight of his reign took place just before midnight on July 17th, 2003, when Thomas dumped a "substitute" pension bill on Democrats -- one that they had never read -- and informed them they would be voting on it the next morning. Infuriated, Democrats stalled by demanding that the bill be read out line by line while they recessed to a side room to confer. But Thomas wanted to move forward -- so he called the Capitol police to evict the Democrats.

Just one story out of MANY in the article

Sounds familiar...Wasn't it just done not all that long ago by the Democrats.
I seem to remember watching something where the Dems dropped a few hundred pages
into a cap and tax bill around 3 AM and the GOP was told they had to vote on it hours later before getting a chance to read it.

When the GOP demanded that the bill read before they voted on it the DEMS called for a vote.

 

[Truthmatters]

Go get your proof.

 

[Truthmatters]

you cant provide documnetation that what you claimed happened happened?

gee imagine my surprize.

What do you question, TM? That Barry made the speech? That the Democrats wrote ObamaCare behind locked doors excluding the Republicans? That it was passed using special legislative proceedures?

Have you just woken up after a long coma? Did you MISS the first two years of the Obama Adminstration?

Go get your proof it happened as you claim it did.

I document what I claim why dont you?

 

[Stephanie]

Dems and Repubs always treat each other like dirt.

However, if we wish to see who is closest to dirt, then it is the Dems.

You see Democrat begins with D, Dirt begins with D--and by alphabetical ordering of words, Democrats are closer to dirt than Republicans.

Of course if we ask who is rot, then by the same logic, the Republicans are.

Closest to Capitalism--Dems
Closest to Socialism--Republicans

Closese to Integrity--Dems--you get the picture....

BULLSHIT!

the republicans act in ways that dems never have

yeah we know Democrats are saints.

 

[Rozman]

Go get your proof.

Cap And Trade Bill 2009 HR 2454 Passed, So What Does That Mean? | NowPublic News Coverage


The 300 page amendment deliever a 0300 hours on Friday contains a provision that the Fed will have to inspect your home if you are selling it to insure it is enviromentally compliant. Including the appliances. If it isn't....no sale. The Gubmnet is getting so far up our collective asses, there is going to be some kind of revolt to stop it. Nazi Germany was very similar. Do things so fast, the people don't have time to realize what's going on. Very thing is an emergency that needs to be addressed immeidately.

It might be too late but remember this in 2010

Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Cap And Trade Bill 2009 HR 2454 Passed, So What Does That Mean? | NowPublic News Coverage Cap And Trade Bill 2009 HR 2454 Passed, So What Does That Mean? | NowPublic News Coverage


You mean this.....

 

[Truthmatters]

now prove the republicans were treated as you claim

 

[Truthmatters]

Matt Taibbi | Time to Go! Inside the Worst Congress Ever



Step Three: Let the President Do Whatever He Wants

The constitution is very clear on the responsibility of Congress to serve as a check on the excesses of the executive branch. The House and Senate, after all, are supposed to pass all laws - the president is simply supposed to execute them. Over the years, despite some ups and downs, Congress has been fairly consistent in upholding this fundamental responsibility, regardless of which party controlled the legislative branch. Elected representatives saw themselves as beholden not to their own party or the president but to the institution of Congress itself. The model of congressional independence was Sen. William Fulbright, who took on McCarthy, Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon with equal vigor during the course of his long career.

"Fulbright behaved the same way with Nixon as he did with Johnson," says Wheeler, the former Senate aide who worked on both sides of the aisle. "You wouldn't see that today."

In fact, the Republican-controlled Congress has created a new standard for the use of oversight powers. That standard seems to be that when a Democratic president is in power, there are no matters too stupid or meaningless to be investigated fully - but when George Bush is president, no evidence of corruption or incompetence is shocking enough to warrant congressional attention. One gets the sense that Bush would have to drink the blood of Christian babies to inspire hearings in Congress - and only then if he did it during a nationally televised State of the Union address and the babies were from Pennsylvania, where Senate Judiciary chairman Arlen Specter was running ten points behind in an election year.

 

[mudwhistle]

COVER STORY: Time to Go! Inside the Worst Congress Ever : Rolling Stone


Rep. Bill Thomas -- a pugnacious Californian with an enviable ego who was caught having an affair with a pharmaceutical lobbyist -- enjoys a reputation rivaling that of the rotund Sensenbrenner. The lowlight of his reign took place just before midnight on July 17th, 2003, when Thomas dumped a "substitute" pension bill on Democrats -- one that they had never read -- and informed them they would be voting on it the next morning. Infuriated, Democrats stalled by demanding that the bill be read out line by line while they recessed to a side room to confer. But Thomas wanted to move forward -- so he called the Capitol police to evict the Democrats.

Just one story out of MANY in the article

I wouldn't make a habit of quoting the Rolling Stone.

 

[Truthmatters]

Congress has repeatedly refused to look at any aspect of the war. In 2003, Republicans refused to allow a vote on a bill introduced by Waxman that would have established an independent commission to review the false claims Bush made in asking Congress to declare war on Iraq. That same year, the chair of the House Intelligence Committee, Porter Goss, refused to hold hearings on whether the administration had forged evidence of the nuclear threat allegedly posed by Iraq. A year later the chair of the Government Reform Committee, Tom Davis, refused to hold hearings on new evidence casting doubt on the "nuclear tubes" cited by the Bush administration before the war. Sen. Pat Roberts, who pledged to issue a Senate Intelligence Committee report after the 2004 election on whether the Bush administration had misled the public before the invasion, changed his mind after the president won re-election. "I think it would be a monumental waste of time to re-plow this ground any further," Roberts said.


http://archive.truthout.org/article/matt-taibbi-time-go-inside-worst-congress-ever

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

now prove the republicans were treated as you claim

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