A letter to the Adults of the GOP

[Oddball]

Agreed. They keep up that "sitting on their hands" routine for another 4-years and the GObP will fracture

It's the Senate that is sitting on their hands, putz.

 

[The T]

While the concern for debt is non existent when they hold the majorities (both parties)

It remains very much alive when the power is divided.

If that's so, then it's purely political posturing and not genuine concern at all. For both parties, as you said.

I would agree with that.


The only exceptions I have seen are those that belong to the tea party.

Boehner always side steps them for the votes.

Boehner is a great 'Party' guy...

 

[Oddball]

Next to President Barack Obama, probably the last person in Washington who expected a challenger in the 2012 primary election was House Speaker John Boehner. The Ohio Republican, one of the most powerful politicians in the country, won a three-way primary race in 2010 with 85 percent of the vote. Who in his right mind would try to take him on?

David Lewis (left) would. According to the Cincinnati Enquirer, the Batavia, Ohio, resident will officially announce his candidacy for U.S. Representative for the Eighth Congressional District on Monday — and to make sure voters know he means business, Lewis will announce his candidacy at Boehner’s office in West Chester.

Lewis, a 26-year-old married father, is a Tea Party and pro-life activist who has been arrested at the offices of both Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) while protesting federal funding of Planned Parenthood and other abortion providers. On his website Lewis describes himself as “a devout Christian” who “believes that law and human rights come from the only solid foundation, God. The Word of God, including the Ten Commandments and the Sermon on the Mount, is the foundation that America and the Bill of Rights [rest] on.”

“What made me want to run against Speaker Boehner ... was that I found out that his words were empty rhetoric,” Lewis told the West Chester Fox affiliate. Specifically, Lewis cited Boehner’s failure to defund both ObamaCare and Planned Parenthood, saying “it was completely in Speaker Boehner’s power to” cut off funding for both.

Boehner to Face Primary Challenge from Pro-Life Tea Party Activist

 

[Dot Com]

The rightie House merely passes kool aid drinking bills that have no chance of getting the President's sig, much less getting Senatorial support. Why do you think Boehner was over there naming post offices during the teeparty credit downgrade fiasco?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Carville: GOP adults want 'children' to behave themselves - CNN.com

If you notice that I have changed my current missive to address adults (as opposed to addressing the establishment as I've done in the previous two), this was done to acknowledge Indiana GOP Chairman Eric Holcomb.

Holcomb said recently, "Republicans are fretting the four dancing now can't beat Obama in the fall — so their national talent search continues," adding that the pleas had come from "the adults" in the party.

Is there someone in the wings who is going to be the Conservative saviour of the GOP?

Carville? Seriously?

The great thing about Carville is he's from an old time filthy sticking rich family with an entire town named for them... Carville, LA... and the ultimate irony is, it used to be a leper colony.

 

[The T]

Next to President Barack Obama, probably the last person in Washington who expected a challenger in the 2012 primary election was House Speaker John Boehner. The Ohio Republican, one of the most powerful politicians in the country, won a three-way primary race in 2010 with 85 percent of the vote. Who in his right mind would try to take him on?

David Lewis (left) would. According to the Cincinnati Enquirer, the Batavia, Ohio, resident will officially announce his candidacy for U.S. Representative for the Eighth Congressional District on Monday — and to make sure voters know he means business, Lewis will announce his candidacy at Boehner’s office in West Chester.

Lewis, a 26-year-old married father, is a Tea Party and pro-life activist who has been arrested at the offices of both Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) while protesting federal funding of Planned Parenthood and other abortion providers. On his website Lewis describes himself as “a devout Christian” who “believes that law and human rights come from the only solid foundation, God. The Word of God, including the Ten Commandments and the Sermon on the Mount, is the foundation that America and the Bill of Rights [rest] on.”

“What made me want to run against Speaker Boehner ... was that I found out that his words were empty rhetoric,” Lewis told the West Chester Fox affiliate. Specifically, Lewis cited Boehner’s failure to defund both ObamaCare and Planned Parenthood, saying “it was completely in Speaker Boehner’s power to” cut off funding for both.

Boehner to Face Primary Challenge from Pro-Life Tea Party Activist

I'm sure the GOP Blue-Blood elites will squash it by hook or crook...

 

[Oddball]

The rightie House merely passes kool aid drinking bills that have no chance of getting the President's sig, much less getting Senatorial support. Why do you think Boehner was over there naming post offices during the teeparty credit downgrade fiasco?

If they have no chance like you claim, then why not put them on the calendar and let them go down in flames?

Because it doesn't comport with the "do nothing congress" lie that Kool-Aid snorters like you are trying to peddle, that's why.

 

[kaz]

If they have no chance like you claim, then why not put them on the calendar and let them go down in flames?

Because it doesn't comport with the "do nothing congress" lie that Kool-Aid snorters like you are buying into.

Yep. To believe that politicians will instruct bureaucrats to run your life for you better then you can is to be a logical, independent thinker. The idea that it's crap and you should run your own life is "drinking kool-aid." Sure it is.

 

[Si modo]

The rightie House merely passes kool aid drinking bills that have no chance of getting the President's sig, much less getting Senatorial support. Why do you think Boehner was over there naming post offices during the teeparty credit downgrade fiasco?

The POTUS sits in his office never signing bills.

THIS is the ONLY reason why nothing gets done.








(Do you see how much validity there is to what you say? I wonder.)

 

[JoeB131]

Were you "traumatized" by roaming bands of Mormans as a youngster, Joe? I hate to break this to you but Mitt Romney was Governor of Massachusetts for a WHOLE term and as far as I know ABSOLUTELY NO MORMAN CULT ACTIVITY OCCURED!!! Pretty sure no cult activity during the Olympic Games in Salt Lake City either... Gee, do you think Mitt has been setting us up for the big cult takeover? What a devious guy...

Don't care. Don't trust them. Ever.

Sorry, that's all there is to it. If the way to stop Romney is to vote for Obama, that's what I'll do. This is a non-negotiable point for me.

Mormons are scum. I don't trust them. And until the happy day we can turn Utah into a giant cult deprogramming camp, we need to use the long spoon when supping with them.

Mormons are scum? Do you know any Mormons?

Enough to realize you never want one near the nuclear weapons.

 

[Seawytch]

The fact that Obama hasn't had the votes to go as far left as you FAR left progressive would have liked...doesn't mean that he's compromised his agenda or is a moderate. If Barry had his way we would have $6.00 a gallon gas, Cap & Trade and Card Check as law right now and our economy would REALLY be screwed. Those of you that are desperate to get Obama elected to a second term should give thanks to the Blue Dog Democrats that wouldn't go along with your progressive agenda. If they had...then the job losses would be mounting by the day and your guy wouldn't have a snowball's chance in Hell at reelection.

No, if the President "had his way" we would be investing in more alternative energy and shifting our energy needs away from fossil fuels. If he "had his way", we would be prioritizing energy conservation by consumers over greater production (which, by the way, is what a majority of Americans favor as well).

"Barry" has no control over the price of gasoline...that would be the Oil Master in places like Saudi Arabia. The Prince of the oil, Al-Waleed bin Talal, has said that he wants to keep oil prices low enough to keep us addicted.

"We don't want the West to go and find alternatives, because, clearly, the higher the price of oil goes, the more they have incentives to go and find alternatives"

You all may not like or agree with what the President has said, but it IS the truth. As long as the price stays where we are willing to pay, we aren't going to actively seek alternatives. When will we decide to do it? When it's either too painful at the pump or we run the fuck out of oil altogether and are just screwed.

We need to start developing these alternatives NOW...before the $8 a gallon they pay elsewhere. We need higher fuel efficiency requirements on our vehicles now, reducing our demand even further.

We're addicted to the dirtiest, most costly and FINITE fuel source the planet offers.

We need a new drug.

Do you not see the fallacy in your argument? You're saying that we'll only change to alternate sources of energy when the price of fossil fuels becomes too expensive...right? So it's obvious that you have "some" grasp of the idea of how a free market works...and if that's the case then why don't you let that free market dictate when we switch over to alternate sources of energy instead of trying to artificially dictate it with high taxes on fossil fuels while subsidizing "green" energy sources? The reason whale oil lamps aren't what we burn to light our homes isn't because we taxed whale oil into being obsolete or because we subsidized the incandesant bulb...it was the natural process of the free market that decided that one was better than the other. The same thing will happen with fossil fuels. When they become economically unfeasable they will quickly be replaced by something that is. But you progressives can't understand that simple concept...can you?

Because our dependence on oil is a National Security issue for one thing...much more than whale oil ever was. Would we give two shits about the Middle East if it wasn't for oil?(although, arguably, we would still be in Afghanistan for their other natural resources)

The President isn't the one over-inflating the price of oil, the people who are speculating on it are. There's also the pesky fact that we are running out of the stuff. We couldn't drill enough here if we put oil rigs in every back yard in America to keep up with our current DEMAND for the stuff. Solar panels on every roof sure would be a step in the right direction though.

Other country's governments are making it economically feasible to move to alternative energies...the reason we are falling behind is because we are not.

Oh, and it IS the "free" market that is currently driving the price of gas at the pump, the President has nothing to do with it. Ya'll righties should be happy about the price of gas...it's your free market at work. Freely speculating on it...

 

[kaz]

Enough to realize you never want one near the nuclear weapons.

I know you're a bigot, but how does that one even make sense?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

No, if the President "had his way" we would be investing in more alternative energy and shifting our energy needs away from fossil fuels. If he "had his way", we would be prioritizing energy conservation by consumers over greater production (which, by the way, is what a majority of Americans favor as well).

"Barry" has no control over the price of gasoline...that would be the Oil Master in places like Saudi Arabia. The Prince of the oil, Al-Waleed bin Talal, has said that he wants to keep oil prices low enough to keep us addicted.

"We don't want the West to go and find alternatives, because, clearly, the higher the price of oil goes, the more they have incentives to go and find alternatives"

You all may not like or agree with what the President has said, but it IS the truth. As long as the price stays where we are willing to pay, we aren't going to actively seek alternatives. When will we decide to do it? When it's either too painful at the pump or we run the fuck out of oil altogether and are just screwed.

We need to start developing these alternatives NOW...before the $8 a gallon they pay elsewhere. We need higher fuel efficiency requirements on our vehicles now, reducing our demand even further.

We're addicted to the dirtiest, most costly and FINITE fuel source the planet offers.

We need a new drug.

Do you not see the fallacy in your argument? You're saying that we'll only change to alternate sources of energy when the price of fossil fuels becomes too expensive...right? So it's obvious that you have "some" grasp of the idea of how a free market works...and if that's the case then why don't you let that free market dictate when we switch over to alternate sources of energy instead of trying to artificially dictate it with high taxes on fossil fuels while subsidizing "green" energy sources? The reason whale oil lamps aren't what we burn to light our homes isn't because we taxed whale oil into being obsolete or because we subsidized the incandesant bulb...it was the natural process of the free market that decided that one was better than the other. The same thing will happen with fossil fuels. When they become economically unfeasable they will quickly be replaced by something that is. But you progressives can't understand that simple concept...can you?

Because our dependence on oil is a National Security issue for one thing...much more than whale oil ever was. Would we give two shits about the Middle East if it wasn't for oil?(although, arguably, we would still be in Afghanistan for their other natural resources)

The President isn't the one over-inflating the price of oil, the people who are speculating on it are. There's also the pesky fact that we are running out of the stuff. We couldn't drill enough here if we put oil rigs in every back yard in America to keep up with our current DEMAND for the stuff. Solar panels on every roof sure would be a step in the right direction though.

Other country's governments are making it economically feasible to move to alternative energies...the reason we are falling behind is because we are not.

Oh, and it IS the "free" market that is currently driving the price of gas at the pump, the President has nothing to do with it. Ya'll righties should be happy about the price of gas...it's your free market at work. Freely speculating on it...

That's odd, because from 2000 - 2008 Bush, Cheney & Halliurton were to blame... remember?

 

[JoeB131]

Enough to realize you never want one near the nuclear weapons.

I know you're a bigot, but how does that one even make sense?

Person with crazy, insane, evil cult beliefs + weapons that can destroy the planet = we are really fucked if that ever happens.

Simple math. Even a retard like you could understand.

 

[Foxfyre]

Everyone knows that the GOP would love to see "Anyone but Mitt". But who will it be? Who will step up? Will Mitch or Jeb or Christie or Sarah or....who will it be?

It is looking more and more like Mitt the Moderate will be your nominee. You good with that? I AM!

If 'anybody but Mitt' is the will of the GOP, then Mitt won't be the nominee will he. Right now Obama is benefitting from the GOP candidates thinking they have to attack each other while he runs unopposed and can hand pick his audiences to ensure great looking sound bites on TV.

All that changes as soon as the GOP candidate is a done deal. Then the GOP, perhaps minus some Ron Paul supporters and other disappointed groups, will unify behind that candidate and Obama will be forced to defend some policies that are going to be damn hard to defend.

Obama does have the advantage of having on his side a majority of:
The Media
Blacks
Hispanics
Gays
Welfare recipients
Union bosses
Federal employees
Hardcore socialists, Marxists, and other assorted leftists

The GOP will have the advantage of a lot of failed policies and unacceptable and/or unconstitutional tactics to use for ammunition if they have the brains and balls to use them.

And that remains to be seen.

 

[The T]

Everyone knows that the GOP would love to see "Anyone but Mitt". But who will it be? Who will step up? Will Mitch or Jeb or Christie or Sarah or....who will it be?

It is looking more and more like Mitt the Moderate will be your nominee. You good with that? I AM!

If 'anybody but Mitt' is the will of the GOP, then Mitt won't be the nominee will he. Right now Obama is benefitting from the GOP candidates thinking they have to attack each other while he runs unopposed and can hand pick his audiences to ensure great looking sound bites on TV.

All that changes as soon as the GOP candidate is a done deal. The the GOP, perhaps minus some Ron Paul supporters and other disappointed groups, will unify behind that candidate and Obama will be forced to defend some policies that are going to be damn hard to defend.

Obama does have the advantage of having on his side a majority of:
The Media
Blacks
Hispanics
Gays
Welfare recipients
Hardcore socialists, Marxists, and other assorted leftists

The GOP will have the advantage of a lot of failed policies and unacceptable and/or unconstitutional tactics to use for ammunition if they have the brains and balls to use them.

And that remains to be seen.

The GOP is still in the mindset that they will ALWAYS be a minority...so they have to act like Democrats of old to get anywhere as the Democrats have moved farther left.

The GOP is filling the void, and being partisan over country.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Oh, and it IS the "free" market that is currently driving the price of gas at the pump, the President has nothing to do with it. Ya'll righties should be happy about the price of gas...it's your free market at work. Freely speculating on it...

True.

Certainly no one on the right would advocate the government somehow interfere with the free market concerning oil production and pricing. It’s the same conservative rationale with regard to TARP and bailouts: let the Wall Street banks and GM fail, it’s a natural process of the free market, let the free markets sort it out…

To ‘blame Obama’ would be the height of conservative hypocrisy.

 

[The T]

Oh, and it IS the "free" market that is currently driving the price of gas at the pump, the President has nothing to do with it. Ya'll righties should be happy about the price of gas...it's your free market at work. Freely speculating on it...

True.

Certainly no one on the right would advocate the government somehow interfere with the free market concerning oil production and pricing. It’s the same conservative rationale with regard to TARP and bailouts: let the Wall Street banks and GM fail, it’s a natural process of the free market, let the free markets sort it out…

To ‘blame Obama’ would be the height of conservative hypocrisy.

Since when is it Constitutional for Government to take over a private company?

 

[Foxfyre]

No, if the President "had his way" we would be investing in more alternative energy and shifting our energy needs away from fossil fuels. If he "had his way", we would be prioritizing energy conservation by consumers over greater production (which, by the way, is what a majority of Americans favor as well).

"Barry" has no control over the price of gasoline...that would be the Oil Master in places like Saudi Arabia. The Prince of the oil, Al-Waleed bin Talal, has said that he wants to keep oil prices low enough to keep us addicted.

"We don't want the West to go and find alternatives, because, clearly, the higher the price of oil goes, the more they have incentives to go and find alternatives"

You all may not like or agree with what the President has said, but it IS the truth. As long as the price stays where we are willing to pay, we aren't going to actively seek alternatives. When will we decide to do it? When it's either too painful at the pump or we run the fuck out of oil altogether and are just screwed.

We need to start developing these alternatives NOW...before the $8 a gallon they pay elsewhere. We need higher fuel efficiency requirements on our vehicles now, reducing our demand even further.

We're addicted to the dirtiest, most costly and FINITE fuel source the planet offers.

We need a new drug.

Do you not see the fallacy in your argument? You're saying that we'll only change to alternate sources of energy when the price of fossil fuels becomes too expensive...right? So it's obvious that you have "some" grasp of the idea of how a free market works...and if that's the case then why don't you let that free market dictate when we switch over to alternate sources of energy instead of trying to artificially dictate it with high taxes on fossil fuels while subsidizing "green" energy sources? The reason whale oil lamps aren't what we burn to light our homes isn't because we taxed whale oil into being obsolete or because we subsidized the incandesant bulb...it was the natural process of the free market that decided that one was better than the other. The same thing will happen with fossil fuels. When they become economically unfeasable they will quickly be replaced by something that is. But you progressives can't understand that simple concept...can you?

Because our dependence on oil is a National Security issue for one thing...much more than whale oil ever was. Would we give two shits about the Middle East if it wasn't for oil?(although, arguably, we would still be in Afghanistan for their other natural resources)

The President isn't the one over-inflating the price of oil, the people who are speculating on it are. There's also the pesky fact that we are running out of the stuff. We couldn't drill enough here if we put oil rigs in every back yard in America to keep up with our current DEMAND for the stuff. Solar panels on every roof sure would be a step in the right direction though.

Other country's governments are making it economically feasible to move to alternative energies...the reason we are falling behind is because we are not.

Oh, and it IS the "free" market that is currently driving the price of gas at the pump, the President has nothing to do with it. Ya'll righties should be happy about the price of gas...it's your free market at work. Freely speculating on it...

Oil is one of the most invasively and pervasively regulated commodities the U.S. government controls. The government dictates when and were the oil companies will drill, how they store and transport the product, where and how they refine it. what additives they put into it, and then tax the hell out of it. No aspect of it is free market other than those who own the gas stations being able to manipulate the price of gasoline a few pennies here and there.

 

[kaz]

Enough to realize you never want one near the nuclear weapons.

I know you're a bigot, but how does that one even make sense?

Person with crazy, insane, evil cult beliefs + weapons that can destroy the planet = we are really fucked if that ever happens.

Simple math. Even a retard like you could understand.

I'm convinced. I never want you near nuclear weapons...