A Letter to Phil Robertson

[PoliticalChic]

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Capital punishment is appropriate.
It is murder that is barbaric.

It is the correct sentence for the crime of murder.

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Then the appropriate punishment for having an abortion is the death penalty to anyone who believes abortion is murder.

If you say so.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I'm not even sure what point you are trying to make.

Capital punishment is barbaric, no matter what the crime.

"I'm not even sure what point you are trying to make."

What is that, 'argument as dope'?
You know very well what point I have made...and proven.



Capital punishment is appropriate.
It is murder that is barbaric.

It is the correct sentence for the crime of murder.

And it is accepted as such in both the Old and New Testaments.





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You mean like crucifixion?

Saith the simpleton.

What does that have to do with anything?

Peter assails the act of handing over an innocent man to godless executioners.

 

[Gadawg73]

Oh, the ignorance of everything and anything with the right wing religious KOOKS having to do with The United States Constitution.
They are so upset that Mr. Phil who signed a contract with A & E to abide by certain rules, regulations and requirements they bastardize The Constitution with their claims of "violation of free speech 1st Amendment Rights".
So once again I have to step forward and teach the uninformed dumb masses on the right the facts:

The 1st Amendment protects citizens FROM THE GOVERNMENT limiting their speech, NOT YOUR EMPLOYER.

 

[mudwhistle]

Oh, the ignorance of everything and anything with the right wing religious KOOKS having to do with The United States Constitution.
They are so upset that Mr. Phil who signed a contract with A & E to abide by certain rules, regulations and requirements they bastardize The Constitution with their claims of "violation of free speech 1st Amendment Rights".
So once again I have to step forward and teach the uninformed dumb masses on the right the facts:

The 1st Amendment protects citizens FROM THE GOVERNMENT limiting their speech, NOT YOUR EMPLOYER.

I don't believe he signed a contract with A&E to keep his mouth shut about his religion nor did they foresee that he would say anything against the homosexual community. If they did then they never should have hired him in the first place. They knew what they were getting when they hired him. Seems to me they're in the wrong. I believe he has grounds for a lawsuit.

 

[Gadawg73]

Oh, the ignorance of everything and anything with the right wing religious KOOKS having to do with The United States Constitution.
They are so upset that Mr. Phil who signed a contract with A & E to abide by certain rules, regulations and requirements they bastardize The Constitution with their claims of "violation of free speech 1st Amendment Rights".
So once again I have to step forward and teach the uninformed dumb masses on the right the facts:

The 1st Amendment protects citizens FROM THE GOVERNMENT limiting their speech, NOT YOUR EMPLOYER.

I don't believe he signed a contract with A&E to keep his mouth shut about his religion nor did they foresee that he would say anything against the homosexual community. If they did then they never should have hired him in the first place. They knew what they were getting when they hired him. Seems to me they're in the wrong. I believe he has grounds for a lawsuit.

There is a standard contract that he signed that A & E has the right to discipline him on ANYTHING he says. Same as pro sports. Same as my contract I sign with certain entities in my work. Same with stock brokers or anyone.
Why?
BECAUSE THEY CAN.
As I stated before you have no rights of freedom of speech under the 1st Amendment when your EMPLOYER limits your speech. Do I have to inform you again?
Only protections are if GOVERNMENT LIMITS your speech.
Bottom line is he has no lawsuit. He would if he was not a milk weak wannabe ZZ Top look alike.
A real man tells A & E TO FUCK THEMSELVES. That is what I would have done, that is what anyone that believes in what they say does.
But not Phil Robertson. He said "Yes maam, I will be quiet and go off the show."
A real man would be out there TODAY saying the exact same things he said in that interview.

 

[Gadawg73]

Now A & E is just as much at fault.
They KNEW AHEAD OF TIME this is who he was, it is all over the place his sermons about how women are to obey the man and homosexuals are same as drunkards and such.
They KNEW about him and took a chance.
Called ratings = FOLDING MONEY AND LOTS OF IT.
But enough of ducks, camo and ZZ Top beards. To me, other than the lesson on the 1st Amendment which everyone NOW knows, this is much ado about NOTHING.
A & E can do what they want. Where the show is filmed is a RIGHT TO WORK STATE.
Only a union loving socialist backs Robertson in this matter on "employee rights".

 

[Toro]

that's not even a letter to Phil, that's a bunch of old gotcha lines that have been circling for years.

but I do love the added can't own Canadians bit

But Canadians can own Americans. That's because Canadians are superior. Just ask anyone.

 

[Toro]

Everything you mentioned seems to have come from the Old Testiment, which is not Christianity. It is the laws God handed down to the Hebrews so they could survive living in the Desert. Sacrifice of livestock ended in God's eyes when Jesus was nailed to the cross. From then on Jesus is our sacrificial lamb. This is why he has often been called "The Lamb Of God".

If the OT is not Christianity, why is it in the Christian Bible and preached from in church?

 

[PoliticalChic]

that's not even a letter to Phil, that's a bunch of old gotcha lines that have been circling for years.

but I do love the added can't own Canadians bit

But Canadians can own Americans. That's because Canadians are superior. Just ask anyone.

The "eh" team reporting in.....

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

(Yes, I know it's not original, and it applied to someone else, but it fits here!)

Dear Mr. Robertson,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination … End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God’s Laws and how to follow them.



1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?



2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?



3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.



4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord -Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?



5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?



6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this? Are there ‘degrees’ of abomination?



7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?



8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?



9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?



10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16.

Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I’m confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God’s word is eternal and unchanging.



The only thing the bible and Constitution have in common: neither are ‘cafeteria plans,’ you can’t take what you like and reject what you don’t.

 

[rightwinger]

Look....it all comes down to God hates Fags

Phil is just reminding us

 

[mudwhistle]

Look....it all comes down to God hates Fags

Phil is just reminding us

Well, we can say for sure now that fags don't like anyone who doesn't agree with them. At least the activist ones.

 

[Gadawg73]

I am waiting for the Fuck Dynasty reality show.

 

[mudwhistle]

I am waiting for the Fuck Dynasty reality show.

I've never watched it.

I see it every day here in real life.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Everything you mentioned seems to have come from the Old Testiment, which is not Christianity. It is the laws God handed down to the Hebrews so they could survive living in the Desert. Sacrifice of livestock ended in God's eyes when Jesus was nailed to the cross. From then on Jesus is our sacrificial lamb. This is why he has often been called "The Lamb Of God".

This is such BS, the Old Testament is not Christianity. I grew up a Christian, went to Sunday school and church, had my own Bible, etc. How many Christians do not have the Old and New Testament Bible? How many only have the New Testament? Not any, I'll wager. It is interesting that in order to try to bolster narrow minded views, so called Christians are ready to deny the Old Testament completely, just like, in order to bolster your claims of dislike for the current administration, you are ready to take on a communist dictator as a better option for US President than the one we have. You'll say anything, deny anyone and anything, be a complete traitor to your religion and your country to support your biased and narrow minded view points. Your hypocrisy does not go unnoticed. But, really, it is one thing to be a traitor to your country; it's quite another to be one to your religion. Despicable.

I guess you missed when Jesus told us to obey the laws of the land we live in? The Old testament applies in full except the parts specifically revoked by Jesus and his teachings. Man's law outlawed slavery so it does not matter what God's law says about it.

I truly feel sorry for those to blind to see, to full of them selves to seek to be saved.

 

[Gadawg73]

Let us put things into perspective here.
I keep hearing an US versus THEM in all of this. Especially from those that claim their religious beliefs are being attacked by the left wing of America.
Their claim is that the current culture in America towards gay folk is a bad one, that gay folk are accepted as normal and that they should be able to claim otherwise based on religious beliefs and those beliefs are somehow being ignored and dismissed.
Ok, so let us say that is the current culture here with emphasis on current, will get back to that later.
This story was ripe for the current media from day one.
George Zimmerman with a ZZ Top beard, 80 million dollars in the bank, A rising star A & E that has tens of million dollars a month of sponsor money at risk and a naive and gullible public that eats this shit up like hogs on slop.
They are having a fucking field day painting Robertson as the reincarnation of J. B. Stoner.
If any of you know who he is.
And Robertson is not anywhere close to being a bigot or a racist even though I disagree with him on probably all of this Fuck a Duck First Blood drama.
On the flip side is how things were for those of us that remember in the late 50s through the mid 70s when things finally changed.
And for the better.
In the 1950s anyone including celebrities could almost openly bash and condemn faggots, fairies, fudge packers, chocolate highway routers as much as they wanted to and few, if any cared.
Everywhere. And blacks were treated worse.
I remember that shit and will never forget. It happened.
Homosexuals and blacks were treated as second class citizens then. That was THE CULTURE. Now I am not making any claims that it was the same or what not. All I am stating is that homosexuals and blacks were treated as 2nd class citizens.
FOR HOW LONG? How long was the culture in this country to discriminate against homosexuals and blacks?
So the culture has definitely changed sports fans.
And for the most part, even if Sir Quack is totally innocent of all media charges, the change in the culture away from the discriminatory nature of the old culture which lasted centuries, what we have now is far better.

 

[deltex1]

Exactly my point. HOmophobia is not a long term career enhancer.

Neither is aids.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Stop denying that the Old Testament has anything to do with Christianity. It is God's word and Christ is God's son. They are one and the same. Do you have only a New Testament? Do you ignore and deny the Old Testament? Not likely. Only when it's convenient. Which is low and dispicable.

Sorry

"I have come not to abolish the law, but to fulfill it" Jesus said. By fulfill, he meant paying the death penalty the Old Law demanded of the transgressors and make a NEW COVENANT with his people!! To insist otherwise is dishonest!

Oh, and you should call Joe out for using the Bible when it's "convenient."

 

[Gadawg73]

Lesson #1 out of all of this as the shit is finally beginning to settle.
MEDIA has spun this thing both ways, sideways, up and everywhere else.
The Dick Van Dyke show which had soap sponsors had to have Dick and Laura sleep in separate beds in the show to satisfy the public.
Public opinion has changed. Media plays on it and makes villains.

 

[Gadawg73]

Disney just bought A & E and that 3 billion dollar sale is what is behind this.