A Laissez-Faire In Haiti Ron Paul Can Point To: Like All GOP!

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Anyone would now ask of purveyors--of the "Reagan Trajectory," even again in America--if Haiti in fact is better off now: Than it was four years ago! Soon anyone will be able to ask, even the D. C. Public Schools! The True Purveyors knew how Ronald Reagan thought, (had only that been possible, even at the end)!

Haiti still ailing from child 'slavery' epidemic

Educated People believe in Adam Smith, and an unregulated economy, even now. And there without the grace of Socialist, market interventions: It goes in Haiti. Here is the true dream of Abraham Lincoln--Mainly lacking Martial Law in the North, and the federal troops all over the South. The Party of Abraham Lincoln already knows what freedom is all about!

People might think that holding up Haiti as the role model of economy envisioned by the Old, Fat, White People--Cavorting About Naked On Other People's Yachts, dumping substance and other treasure into the sea: Is somehow racist.

So anyone can point to drought-stricken East Africa instead. It's a big laissez-faire coincidence: Kind of like Nazi-hunters forgetting that the victims, also supported the law.

The planet was spared the plan for Costa Rica, under the merciful guise of actor on behalf of the fans. General Erwin Rommel would even pay the price, later on.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Many Nations understand about saints and martyrs in America! Many White would soon come West, in the name of Laissez-Faire!)
 
Haitians still recovering from quake...
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Haiti Quake Survivors Cope with Physical, Emotional Scars
November 01, 2011 - Thousands of Haitians sought refuge in the United States after the devastating earthquake in Haiti last year. Many suffered unimaginable trauma and bear both physical and emotional scars.
Thousands of Haitians sought refuge in the United States after the devastating earthquake in Haiti last year. Many suffered unimaginable trauma and bear both physical and emotional scars. For the Jean family, life together is a blessing. “Because we were in [the] face of death. That’s the work of God, because we are alive,” Stevenson Jean says. Stevenson lived through Haiti's earthquake with his mother and six siblings. His father, Jean Claude, was in Miami, working to support them. “I call my family, the phone, the phone is dead,” he recalls.

All are safe now, but life still is not easy. “We had many difficulties after the earthquake. I had two children hurt in the quake and myself," explains Marie-Rolle, Jean Claude's wife. And with another child on the way, the Jeans also struggle financially. “$400 per week. Not enough for my family,” Jean Claude says. To help cope, they rely on faith. Emmanuel Zizi is the pastor at Worshipers' House of Prayer in Miami. “All of us have the same problems, so this is really, we help each other carry our burdens,” the pastor notes. Another group helping quake victims is Haitian Women of Miami, a social services agency for immigrants known as FANM. Marleine Bastien founded the group. “These victims, they go through a lot. A lot of them need housing, they need to move, they need access to school,” she explains.

Nerline Cajuste came to FANM for help applying for health care aid. She had hip replacement surgery after suffering injuries in the quake. "After the surgery, I have a blood clot. Now I feel pain, I feel pain in my leg. I cannot walk good now," Nerline says. The pain is not just physical. "It makes me sad," Nerline adds. "250,000 people died. These people, they are traumatized," notes Marlene Bastien. When Brutus Michel relives the earthquake, he remembers his wife. "Her heart was beating so fast, that she died 12 days later," he explains. Michel says moving in with family in the U.S. has helped him cope.

It's a daily battle all too familiar to Claude Cyntia Riou. She shares her story with the help of a translator. "This picture is the last picture that I took of him," she says, holding a photo of her son. Riou had just picked up eight-year-old Tonton from school when the earthquake hit. "When I saw his feet out of the car, I said 'Oh my God, Tonton died.'" Riou says she relives that moment every day. "I’m laughing, I talk, but it’s not me. I’m here, but not really," she says. But with the help of her other children and her faith...Riou, like other survivors, carries on. "For me, Tonton is not dead," Riou says.

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Haiti Struggles to Begin Free Public Education
November 01, 2011 - One out of every two Haitians is illiterate. Haiti's President, Michel Martelly, has made free public education one of his top priorities. VOA's Carolyn Presutti explores why some Haitian public schools are still charging students.
On the first day of school in Haiti, adding to the normal chaos - the president was handing out free backpacks. “I’m now the superstar of the school,” a boy who received one of the coveted backpacks said proudly. President Michel Martelly says his recent taxes on international calls and wire transfers have changed the public schools of Haiti. “That money has enabled us to provide free schools for the people,” explained the president.

But at a public school in Tabarre, a poor neighborhood outside of Port au Prince, the moms told a different story. They said it’s far from free. The mothers said they paid to send their children to school. "I gave $220, $130, $130." [US dollars: $27, $16, $16] the mothers said. To back up their claims, they showed receipts. "Somedays I am not even able to sell the bread that I have and I have to let my kids go hungry so I can have enough money to send them to school," one mother, who said she sell bread on the street lamented.

When VOA returns one week later - it's bedlam. Children are kept outside the school because their parents have not paid a new fee to purchase emblems for uniforms. "We asked for children to have an emblem on their clothing to differentiate them from students of other schools," explained Jean Francois Lucien, the director of the school. "So the parents are being stubborn and they are refusing to put the emblem on their children’s clothing." The fee is less than $1.50 U.S. But it's still a hardship for the average Haitian who makes $2 a day.

"A lot of times, you can't sell anything," another mother complained. "You walk and you walk before you can finally make 100 gourdes [US $2.48]." And, what about the hundreds of dollars paid to enroll children here? “The minister asked us to stop charging parents to register their children, so we stopped and we didn’t collect any money after that," school director Lucien responded. But one woman reported that she had been told that her children had to leave because she didn't have an extra $6 for enrollment.

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The economy is messed up from years of socialist intervention, the adam smith style conservative comes into office next month and you are blaming him for the ills of the Aristide years?

Try again, in english.
 
Matthew your mouth is a shithole


Really? These new economic policies are what fucked Haiti up? Not years of civil war, instability, poverty, starvation, deforestation....

You don't know shit about Haiti man
 
A Laissez-Faire In Haiti Ron Paul Can Point To: Like All GOP!
Anyone would now ask of purveyors--of the "Reagan Trajectory," even again in America--if Haiti in fact is better off now: Than it was four years ago! Soon anyone will be able to ask, even the D. C. Public Schools! The True Purveyors knew how Ronald Reagan thought, (had only that been possible, even at the end)!

Haiti still ailing from child 'slavery' epidemic

Educated People believe in Adam Smith, and an unregulated economy, even now. And there without the grace of Socialist, market interventions: It goes in Haiti. Here is the true dream of Abraham Lincoln--Mainly lacking Martial Law in the North, and the federal troops all over the South. The Party of Abraham Lincoln already knows what freedom is all about!

People might think that holding up Haiti as the role model of economy envisioned by the Old, Fat, White People--Cavorting About Naked On Other People's Yachts, dumping substance and other treasure into the sea: Is somehow racist.

So anyone can point to drought-stricken East Africa instead. It's a big laissez-faire coincidence: Kind of like Nazi-hunters forgetting that the victims, also supported the law.

The planet was spared the plan for Costa Rica, under the merciful guise of actor on behalf of the fans. General Erwin Rommel would even pay the price, later on.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Many Nations understand about saints and martyrs in America! Many White would soon come West, in the name of Laissez-Faire!)

I give you two reasons you moron.

Papa Doc and Baby Doc Duvalier. I know my Haiti history very well. Years of socialist dictatorships.

Screw off with Old white fat men bullshit you dipstick idiot.

ETA: I've seen a lot of stupid posts from liberals but I swear this has to be in the top 10
 
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Haiti has been basically a Kleptocracy for generations.

It's no more honest socialism than it was honest capitalism.

Basically its been a nation run by criminals.
 
Haiti has been basically a Kleptocracy for generations.

It's no more honest socialism than it was honest capitalism.

Basically its been a nation run by criminals.


The term "honest socialism" is an oxymoron. Corruption and socialism go together like hand and glove.
 
...mind about Ron Paul shrinking your nanny government if he gets elected. Believe me it's not s scary as you think to be on your own with a real job. Once the nanny government & it's nanny unions are liquidated lock, stock & barrel you will get a chance to be on your own completely free of nannyism. It's hard for a the government nanny crowd to accept responsibility for themselves without the 'herd' to give them confidence of strength in number.
After the collapse of the former Soviet Union, West Germany found out that the East Germans did not know how to provide for themselves. Slowly but surely the West Germans taught the East Germans how to hold real jobs instead of relying on government to create & then give them simple jobs of no importance. You'll do just fine in an unrestrained pure capitalist society I'm sure. You just got to remember that in real jobs involved with the private sector that you can't phuk the pup like you were used to doing in your past nanny government jobs.
If Ron Paul does take the oval office... WELCOME to capitalism 101!!!


Anyone would now ask of purveyors--of the "Reagan Trajectory," even again in America--if Haiti in fact is better off now: Than it was four years ago! Soon anyone will be able to ask, even the D. C. Public Schools! The True Purveyors knew how Ronald Reagan thought, (had only that been possible, even at the end)!

Haiti still ailing from child 'slavery' epidemic

Educated People believe in Adam Smith, and an unregulated economy, even now. And there without the grace of Socialist, market interventions: It goes in Haiti. Here is the true dream of Abraham Lincoln--Mainly lacking Martial Law in the North, and the federal troops all over the South. The Party of Abraham Lincoln already knows what freedom is all about!

People might think that holding up Haiti as the role model of economy envisioned by the Old, Fat, White People--Cavorting About Naked On Other People's Yachts, dumping substance and other treasure into the sea: Is somehow racist.

So anyone can point to drought-stricken East Africa instead. It's a big laissez-faire coincidence: Kind of like Nazi-hunters forgetting that the victims, also supported the law.

The planet was spared the plan for Costa Rica, under the merciful guise of actor on behalf of the fans. General Erwin Rommel would even pay the price, later on.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Many Nations understand about saints and martyrs in America! Many White would soon come West, in the name of Laissez-Faire!)
 
Haiti has been basically a Kleptocracy for generations.

It's no more honest socialism than it was honest capitalism.

Basically its been a nation run by criminals.


The term "honest socialism" is an oxymoron. Corruption and socialism go together like hand and glove.


Any time power coalesces to a small group of people, regardless of the economic system or the type government, their behavior becomes essantially criminal.

Oh they may change the laws such that what they do isn't actually a crime, but the crimes they commit against their own people are obvious.

If you want to imagine that that ONLY happens in socialist economies and nations, be my guest.

History clearly does not support that theory, and I know perfectly well you'll never agree until you are ready to agree.

Maybe for you that means never.

I can live with that.
 
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The economy is messed up from years of socialist intervention, the adam smith style conservative comes into office next month and you are blaming him for the ills of the Aristide years?

Try again, in english.

Aristide was probably the first and last leader in Haiti that was put into power by a general election. He was ousted by George W. Bush. Haiti's been completely under the arm of the United States, doing almost everything the United States wanted it to do. And it's a craphole. The Dominican Republic, which shares the Island with Haiti, is slightly more independent and doing much better. By the way..been to both places.
 
The term "honest socialism" is an oxymoron. Corruption and socialism go together like hand and glove.

Any time power coalesces to a small group of people, regardless of the economic system or the type government, their behavior becomes essantially criminal.

Socialism can't function with "coalescing" power to a small group of people. In fact, socialism is a means for coalescing power. Capitalism, on the other hand, is a means of dispersing power.
 
Haiti has been basically a Kleptocracy for generations.

It's no more honest socialism than it was honest capitalism.

Basically its been a nation run by criminals.


The term "honest socialism" is an oxymoron. Corruption and socialism go together like hand and glove.


Any time power coalesces to a small group of people, regardless of the economic system or the type government, their behavior becomes essantially criminal.

Oh they may change the laws such that what they do isn't actually a crime, but the crimes they commit against their own people are obvious.

If you want to imagine that that ONLY happens in socialist economies and nations, be my guest.

History clearly does not support that theory, and I know perfectly well you'll never agree until you are ready to agree.

Maybe for you that means never.

I can live with that.

Labels are pretty irrelevant, but what counts is the level of economic and political freedom. Socialist states believe in concentration of political and economic power at the center 'for the common good.' The greater the degree of concentration at the center, the greater the ability and propensity to steal.

Aristide and the Duvaliars called themselves opposite labels, but the were peas in a pod when it came to centralized control and centralized theft.
 
Anyone would now ask of purveyors--of the "Reagan Trajectory," even again in America--if Haiti in fact is better off now: Than it was four years ago! Soon anyone will be able to ask, even the D. C. Public Schools! The True Purveyors knew how Ronald Reagan thought, (had only that been possible, even at the end)!

Haiti still ailing from child 'slavery' epidemic

Educated People believe in Adam Smith, and an unregulated economy, even now. And there without the grace of Socialist, market interventions: It goes in Haiti. Here is the true dream of Abraham Lincoln--Mainly lacking Martial Law in the North, and the federal troops all over the South. The Party of Abraham Lincoln already knows what freedom is all about!

People might think that holding up Haiti as the role model of economy envisioned by the Old, Fat, White People--Cavorting About Naked On Other People's Yachts, dumping substance and other treasure into the sea: Is somehow racist.

So anyone can point to drought-stricken East Africa instead. It's a big laissez-faire coincidence: Kind of like Nazi-hunters forgetting that the victims, also supported the law.

The planet was spared the plan for Costa Rica, under the merciful guise of actor on behalf of the fans. General Erwin Rommel would even pay the price, later on.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Many Nations understand about saints and martyrs in America! Many White would soon come West, in the name of Laissez-Faire!)

This is silly. It's as dumb as offering up North Korea or Cuba as examples of failures of liberal policies.

Haiti is an anarchic, failed state. Anyone who is even remotely familiar with laissez-faire knows that laissez-faire does not equate with the lack of the rule of law.
 
Pakistani peacekeepers convicted of sexual abuse in Haiti...
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Rare trial in Haiti convicts 2 Pakistani policemen in UN peacekeeping mission of sexual abuse
— Two United Nations peacekeepers in Haiti have been sentenced to a year in prison with hard labor after a rare trial found them guilty of sexual abuse and exploitation, a U.N. spokeswoman said Tuesday.
Spokeswoman Sylvie Van Den Wildenberg said the United Nations was informed last week that the two Pakistani police officers were convicted by a Pakistani military court in the Haitian port city of Gonaives and were discharged. No U.N. personnel or Haitian officials were present for the trial, she said. It was the first time that troops from the U.N. peacekeeping mission in Haiti, known by its French acronymn of Minustah, have been tried and sentenced within the country. U.N. U.N. authorities also were told that Pakistan intends to compensate the victims but has not determined the amount, Van Den Wildenberg said.

She added that Pakistan withdrew its 150 members of the U.N. peacekeeping mission on Friday. It was not clear if Pakistan planned to replace the unit. The case involving the members of a police unit in Gonaives began in January, along with a separate case concerning U.N. police officers in Haiti’s capital, Port-au-Prince. The troops were removed from duty pending the outcome of the investigations. U.N. officials didn’t release the nationality of these troops. The trial came just months after six Uruguayan troops with the U.N. peacekeeping force in Haiti were accused of abusing a young Haitian man. The case was referred to the Uruguayan judicial system.

The cases have done little to improve relations between the U.N. and some Haitians who view the mission as an occupying force. Tensions between the world body and Haiti were exacerbated after a peacekeeping unit from Nepal was blamed for introducing cholera to the Caribbean nation in the months following the January 2010 earthquake. The outbreak has killed more than 7,000 people and sickened more than 526,000 others, Haitian health officials say. The cholera outbreak prompted a Haitian law firm and its international partner to file a complaint against the U.N. last year on behalf of the victims, which is under review by its legal office. The case could prove tricky because U.N. personnel are granted immunity under a status of forces agreement signed between the U.N. and Haiti.

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