A L E C - The American Legislative Exchange Council.

[PredFan]

Sounds like ALEC is just what we need. Republicans need to cut the democrat controlled government loose and start seeing up alternative bodies. A shadow government specifically designed to interfere with the obama regime.

Did you actually read what you wrote?!?

Shadow government? Pass!

No wonder the Republicans are slipping closer and closer towards irrelevance with every passing day.

The direction this country is heading, we're glad to have no part in it.

 

[AVG-JOE]

What attracts you to corruption? The unfairness of it? The way it strangles the economy?

 

[PredFan]

The American Legislative and Issue Campaign Exchange (ALICE)

ALICE
Here, in one place, sorted by major conventional categories of state and local policy, you’ll find hundreds of examples of “exemplary” laws, meaning good law that’s been introduced or enacted somewhere, worthy of replication. You’ll find a smaller number of “model” laws, meaning suggested general language for a law, ready to be tailored to a particular jurisdiction. And you’ll find different kinds of “support” for both, meaning background research, talking points, and other aids in their effective communication. There are other resources too to help you in your work. Some are on line here. Others are planned.

Throw Alice down the rabbit hole.

 

[PredFan]

Yup, these bad boys were behind the Stand Your Ground legislation, the Voter ID laws and are fighting pollution laws like crazy among other issues.
ALEC is a Koch Brothers tool and it's up to no good. It's the far right's very own ACORN is a sense except much more powerful because of all the corporate money flowing into it. It certainly represents Plutocracy which threatens our Democratic process by drowning out the people's voices with Big Money..

ALEC is nothing like ACORN. ACORN was interested in housing poor people and getting them involved in the political process. Giving the poor a "buy in" to society generally helps them out of poverty.

Bull shit. ACORN was interested in getting Democrats elected, using any means available including fraud and corruption.

 

[Darkwind]

Yup, these bad boys were behind the Stand Your Ground legislation, the Voter ID laws and are fighting pollution laws like crazy among other issues.
ALEC is a Koch Brothers tool and it's up to no good. It's the far right's very own ACORN is a sense except much more powerful because of all the corporate money flowing into it. It certainly represents Plutocracy which threatens our Democratic process by drowning out the people's voices with Big Money..

ALEC is nothing like ACORN. ACORN was interested in housing poor people and getting them involved in the political process. Giving the poor a "buy in" to society generally helps them out of poverty.

ACORN was interested in money, power and control over government. No different than this organization.

You people are something else. Its okay when its for things you support, but heaven forbid that businesses band together to protect themselves from predatory egalitarianism.

 

[PredFan]

Did you actually read what you wrote?!?

Shadow government? Pass!

No wonder the Republicans are slipping closer and closer towards irrelevance with every passing day.

I'll be glad when they're gone. For we now know that demoncraps are devoid of corruption and are pure at heart in all things in heaven and earth. Yep we knows it fo sho.

Sarcasm not withstanding Willow, you're wrong.

It's up to us, We, The People, to INSIST on transparency in the legislative process from all sides. The Democrats have proven that they are just as susceptible to graft and corruption as anyone, and ALICE needs to be watched and kept in the front row just like ALEC should have been all these years.

The base problem is not a Republican one, it's a willingness to sell legislation to the highest bidder, and a system that promotes that behavior.

Transparency for the Right...

Transparency for the Left...​

Transparency for all of Government.​

Wait, what is a sensible post doing in this thread?

 

[Darkwind]

Did you actually read what you wrote?!?

Shadow government? Pass!

No wonder the Republicans are slipping closer and closer towards irrelevance with every passing day.

I'll be glad when they're gone. For we now know that demoncraps are devoid of corruption and are pure at heart in all things in heaven and earth. Yep we knows it fo sho.

Sarcasm not withstanding Willow, you're wrong.

It's up to us, We, The People, to INSIST on transparency in the legislative process from all sides. The Democrats have proven that they are just as susceptible to graft and corruption as anyone, and ALICE needs to be watched and kept in the front row just like ALEC should have been all these years.

The base problem is not a Republican one, it's a willingness to sell legislation to the highest bidder, and a system that promotes that behavior.

Transparency for the Right...

Transparency for the Left...​

Transparency for all of Government.​

wow...you apply that standard to the T.E.A. party too? Because that is what they have been all about since inception.

 

[WillowTree]

Did you actually read what you wrote?!?

Shadow government? Pass!

No wonder the Republicans are slipping closer and closer towards irrelevance with every passing day.

I'll be glad when they're gone. For we now know that demoncraps are devoid of corruption and are pure at heart in all things in heaven and earth. Yep we knows it fo sho.

Sarcasm not withstanding Willow, you're wrong.

It's up to us, We, The People, to INSIST on transparency in the legislative process from all sides. The Democrats have proven that they are just as susceptible to graft and corruption as anyone, and ALICE needs to be watched and kept in the front row just like ALEC should have been all these years.

The base problem is not a Republican one, it's a willingness to sell legislation to the highest bidder, and a system that promotes that behavior.

Transparency for the Right...

Transparency for the Left...​

Transparency for all of Government.​

It's already been done, the unions, the leeches and the minorites have all spoken. so kiss the Republicans goodbye.

 

[AVG-JOE]

The American Legislative and Issue Campaign Exchange (ALICE)

ALICE
Here, in one place, sorted by major conventional categories of state and local policy, you’ll find hundreds of examples of “exemplary” laws, meaning good law that’s been introduced or enacted somewhere, worthy of replication. You’ll find a smaller number of “model” laws, meaning suggested general language for a law, ready to be tailored to a particular jurisdiction. And you’ll find different kinds of “support” for both, meaning background research, talking points, and other aids in their effective communication. There are other resources too to help you in your work. Some are on line here. Others are planned.

Throw Alice down the rabbit hole.

Now there's some productive political discussion...

 

[Sallow]

Yup, these bad boys were behind the Stand Your Ground legislation, the Voter ID laws and are fighting pollution laws like crazy among other issues.
ALEC is a Koch Brothers tool and it's up to no good. It's the far right's very own ACORN is a sense except much more powerful because of all the corporate money flowing into it. It certainly represents Plutocracy which threatens our Democratic process by drowning out the people's voices with Big Money..

ALEC is nothing like ACORN. ACORN was interested in housing poor people and getting them involved in the political process. Giving the poor a "buy in" to society generally helps them out of poverty.

Bull shit. ACORN was interested in getting Democrats elected, using any means available including fraud and corruption.

Part of that is bullshit.

Of course they were interested in getting democrats elected. But there is no fraud or corruption. They self policed fake registrations.

 

[Antares]

You lefty's should probably look up the Tide's Foundation and the Apollo Alliance.

 

[AVG-JOE]

I'll be glad when they're gone. For we now know that demoncraps are devoid of corruption and are pure at heart in all things in heaven and earth. Yep we knows it fo sho.

Sarcasm not withstanding Willow, you're wrong.

It's up to us, We, The People, to INSIST on transparency in the legislative process from all sides. The Democrats have proven that they are just as susceptible to graft and corruption as anyone, and ALICE needs to be watched and kept in the front row just like ALEC should have been all these years.

The base problem is not a Republican one, it's a willingness to sell legislation to the highest bidder, and a system that promotes that behavior.

Transparency for the Right...

Transparency for the Left...​

Transparency for all of Government.​

It's already been done, the unions, the leeches and the minorites have all spoken. so kiss the Republicans goodbye.

Fortunately, when one door closes, another opens.

If the Republican Party does implode, conservatives will look for another voice in politics, even if it's the Democratic Party.

Our government needs a conservative head as much as it needs a progressive heart.

The secret is transparency in ALL things politics.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Comprised mostly of Republican State Legislators, Governors and Corporate Sponsors, ALEC is a clearinghouse for legal corruption, diverting millions in state tax dollars to corporate members through tax favoritism and no-bid privatization of government services. This group brings corporate cronyism, corruption and mercenary lobbying to a whole new level.

Preview: United States of ALEC | Moyers & Company | BillMoyers.com

This week, Moyers & Company reports on the most influential corporate-funded political force most of America has never heard of — ALEC, the American Legislative Exchange Council. A national consortium of state politicians and powerful corporations, ALEC presents itself as a “nonpartisan public-private partnership”. But behind that mantra lies a vast network of corporate lobbying and political action aimed to increase corporate profits at public expense without public knowledge.

ALEC, which is registered as a public charity under section 501(c)(3) of the tax code, traces its roots to 1973, when the conservative activist Paul M. Weyrich and several other Republicans sought to create a state-level clearinghouse for conservative ideas. Although its board is made up of legislators, who pay $50 a year to belong, ALEC is primarily financed by more than 200 private-sector members, whose annual dues of $7,000 to $25,000 accounted for most of its $7 million budget in 2010.

Some companies give much more, all of it tax deductible: AT&T, Pfizer and Reynolds American each contributed $130,000 to $398,000, according to a copy of ALEC’s 2010 tax returns, obtained by The Times, that included donors’ names, which are normally withheld from public inspection. The returns show that corporate members pay stipends — it calls them “scholarships” — for lawmakers to travel to annual conferences, including a four-day retreat where ALEC spends as much as $250,000 on child care for members’ families.

“We know its mission is to bring together corporations and state legislators to draft profit-driven, anti-public-interest legislation, and then help those elected officials pass the bills in statehouses from coast to coast,” said the president of Common Cause, Bob Edgar. “If that’s not lobbying, what is?”

ALEC, a Tax-Exempt Group, Mixes Legislators and Lobbyists - NYTimes.com

ALEC Is a Lobby, Not a Charity - WSJ.com - The evidence is overwhelming: This nonprofit is not entitled to tax-exempt status.

A lot of ALEC legislation appears to have been drafted by companies that are members of the organization to enhance their profits. It's understandable, and not necessarily bad, that companies support legislation that benefits them. But the way ALEC hides its initiatives—wining and dining state legislators behind closed doors at resort hotels and then stepping into the background as those legislators introduce the bills under their own names—is deceptive.

More...

ALEC: The Voice of Corporate Special Interests In State Legislatures | People For the American Way

What is ALEC? - Alec Exposed

ALEC Gets a Break From State Lobbying Laws | Mother Jones



Fair and simple taxes...

Public budgets that are balanced by law...​

Transparency in all things politics.​

Then, build an economy that your kids can drive to the stars.

It ain't rocket science, y'all.

Gee, I wonder why the left doesn't have anything like this.

Wait, they do, you just don't talk about them.

 

[WillowTree]

ALEC is nothing like ACORN. ACORN was interested in housing poor people and getting them involved in the political process. Giving the poor a "buy in" to society generally helps them out of poverty.

Bull shit. ACORN was interested in getting Democrats elected, using any means available including fraud and corruption.

Part of that is bullshit.

Of course they were interested in getting democrats elected. But there is no fraud or corruption. They self policed fake registrations.

demoncraps are pure of heart in all things heaven and earf! they sho izz.

 

[PredFan]

ALEC is nothing like ACORN. ACORN was interested in housing poor people and getting them involved in the political process. Giving the poor a "buy in" to society generally helps them out of poverty.

Bull shit. ACORN was interested in getting Democrats elected, using any means available including fraud and corruption.

Part of that is bullshit.

Of course they were interested in getting democrats elected. But there is no fraud or corruption. They self policed fake registrations.

You just pegged the denial meter.

 

[Antares]

...and to date roughly 19 convictions of voter and voter registration fraud.

What a marvelous group.

Yup, these bad boys were behind the Stand Your Ground legislation, the Voter ID laws and are fighting pollution laws like crazy among other issues.
ALEC is a Koch Brothers tool and it's up to no good. It's the far right's very own ACORN is a sense except much more powerful because of all the corporate money flowing into it. It certainly represents Plutocracy which threatens our Democratic process by drowning out the people's voices with Big Money..

ALEC is nothing like ACORN. ACORN was interested in housing poor people and getting them involved in the political process. Giving the poor a "buy in" to society generally helps them out of poverty.

 

[Sallow]

Yup, these bad boys were behind the Stand Your Ground legislation, the Voter ID laws and are fighting pollution laws like crazy among other issues.
ALEC is a Koch Brothers tool and it's up to no good. It's the far right's very own ACORN is a sense except much more powerful because of all the corporate money flowing into it. It certainly represents Plutocracy which threatens our Democratic process by drowning out the people's voices with Big Money..

ALEC is nothing like ACORN. ACORN was interested in housing poor people and getting them involved in the political process. Giving the poor a "buy in" to society generally helps them out of poverty.

ACORN was interested in money, power and control over government. No different than this organization.

You people are something else. Its okay when its for things you support, but heaven forbid that businesses band together to protect themselves from predatory egalitarianism.

ACORN wasn't writing laws that were taken verbatim..and enacted on state and federal levels.

 

[PredFan]

Yeah sorry, I apoligize for being an ass about this thread.

Sorry, that's the mood I'm in right now.

I liked the post that I labeled a "serious" one.



And ACORN is a corrupt organization.

 

[AVG-JOE]

I'll be glad when they're gone. For we now know that demoncraps are devoid of corruption and are pure at heart in all things in heaven and earth. Yep we knows it fo sho.

Sarcasm not withstanding Willow, you're wrong.

It's up to us, We, The People, to INSIST on transparency in the legislative process from all sides. The Democrats have proven that they are just as susceptible to graft and corruption as anyone, and ALICE needs to be watched and kept in the front row just like ALEC should have been all these years.

The base problem is not a Republican one, it's a willingness to sell legislation to the highest bidder, and a system that promotes that behavior.

Transparency for the Right...

Transparency for the Left...​

Transparency for all of Government.​

wow...you apply that standard to the T.E.A. party too? Because that is what they have been all about since inception.

The T.E.A. Party within the Republican organization did a fine job of shedding some light into some dark corners on both sides of the aisle - kudos for that.

Their irrelevance comes from being a one-trick pony.

 

[whitehall]

The left is degenerating into a fantasy world of paranoia. What the hell is "legal corruption" and how does "mercenary lobbying" work? The strange part of liberal paranoia is that they want to give more power to big government who created the alleged loopholes they whine about. The left whines about something they call "mercenary lobbying" while their own party runs 2/3 of the government. If the degenerate paranoid left worried more about real concerns of the next four years instead of some mythical committee we might have a chance of surviving Hussein's 2nd term.