usmbguest5318
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Do you know what the "they did it too" (or "they didn't do it either") line of argumentation is? It's a form of the ad hominem line of argumentation, and it's almost universally fallacious. It has a name: tu quoque. It's a simple form that superficially seems legit, so it's no surprise that folks who cannot or will not develop rigorous arguments use it. One doesn't need to be abjectly simple minded to employ it, but one does need to be quite a dolt to accept arguments based upon it.
It is perhaps the most frequently heard approaches to argumentation that children discern on their own. I know with my four kids, every one of them used it until they learned that it is both a child's argument and rationally ineffective. As a child, I and my siblings also used it just as I'm sure everyone here did. When I was a kid, it got me nowhere with my parents and teachers.
Did it work for you? Did you have parents fool enough to allow it to work for you? If so, I guess we know why you are still employing that approach. There's little question that, as a child, you, I and everyone else thought the tu quoque line prevailed, but in reality, it didn't. What was going on was that, as a child, we simply didn't have the intellectual acuity to understand the absurdity of the "you too" line, and our parents knew that just as I knew it when my own kids tried using it. Consequently, the matter ended with an ineluctable parental fiat and that was that.
Politicians use it. They do because people, constituents allow them to do so and don't rebuke them when they do so. People here use it. I won't speculate on why people here use it. Whatever the reason, it's time to cease and desist with that childishness.
It is perhaps the most frequently heard approaches to argumentation that children discern on their own. I know with my four kids, every one of them used it until they learned that it is both a child's argument and rationally ineffective. As a child, I and my siblings also used it just as I'm sure everyone here did. When I was a kid, it got me nowhere with my parents and teachers.
Did it work for you? Did you have parents fool enough to allow it to work for you? If so, I guess we know why you are still employing that approach. There's little question that, as a child, you, I and everyone else thought the tu quoque line prevailed, but in reality, it didn't. What was going on was that, as a child, we simply didn't have the intellectual acuity to understand the absurdity of the "you too" line, and our parents knew that just as I knew it when my own kids tried using it. Consequently, the matter ended with an ineluctable parental fiat and that was that.
Politicians use it. They do because people, constituents allow them to do so and don't rebuke them when they do so. People here use it. I won't speculate on why people here use it. Whatever the reason, it's time to cease and desist with that childishness.