A hundred people probably today will lose their lives as a result of a gunshot

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    Japan has strict gun laws yet very HIGH suicide rates, go figure.
     
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    More of a cultural thing to handle disgrace
     
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    Excellent point! I wonder how many people are killed each year in automobile crashes?
     
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    It is around the same number we lose from guns

    Difference is people die in car crashes by accident
    People die from guns on purpose
     
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    Gun ownership is NOT the problem. Progs want to pass anything to remove 2nd amendment rights from citizens.

    Nothing being suggested by he progs would have prevented this attack.

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    Progs hate those stats.

    Truth is the enemy of Progs...they only work off emotion.
     
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    You have no direct correlation

    Homicides have gone down since 1990 regardless of strict gun laws or lax gun laws
    It is due to the end of the crack wars in the 1990s and has nothing to do with the number of guns on the street
     
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    Law enforcement are not going to magically teleport to your location and save you from murderers, rapists, and human scum. We need to be able to protect ourselves. Hence the 2nd amendment protects our rights to keep and bare arms.

    If you go back to the time the 2nd amendment was written, in most countries it was illegal for common citizens to possess weapons. That gave the ruthless dictators and monarchies free reign to abuse their people and likely was the reason the founders felt the 2nd amendment was so important.

    Case in point, we told King George to pound sand up his ass and he attacked us with an army.
     
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    If it were up to Progs, only criminals and the government would have guns.

    If you are in a BAD SITUATION.....just call the government and they will show up with THEIR GUNS to save you. :badgrin::badgrin::badgrin:
     
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    Sorry Hillary, a suppressor would not have helped Stephen Paddock hurt more people in Las Vegas

    To put it simply: A suppressor makes little difference in determining the direction of the sound.

    Next, the use of the term "silencer" is a signal that the speaker is understandably misinformed about how firearm suppressors work. A typical firearm suppressor will reduce the muzzle report by about 30 decibels.

    For reference, a typical AR-15 will have a muzzle report of 167dB. With a suppressor, this goes down to 137dB, still louder than an unsupressed 22 caliber rifle, which develops about 130dB. For comparison, the threshold of pain is generally considered 110dB, or the pleasant sound of an automobile horn firing into your ear. Another example of a sound developing 130dB is that of a fighter jet taking off from an aircraft carrier.

    Again, a fighter jet taking off is quieter than the typical suppressed AR-15. It is safe to say that nobody on the deck of an aircraft carrier has ever been taken by surprise by a fighter jet taking off.

    In short, even with a suppressor, firearms are still incredibly freaking loud. Yes, weaker ammunition can make a firearm quieter, but to get to a noise level that is not easily detectable would require muzzle energy that bordered on non-lethal beyond several yards. If a firearm is made undetectably quiet, it would likely be less lethal than high-end BB guns available at sporting goods stores.
     

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